Just got out of a game where sivir saw I was running back from the enemy nexus to get HP and she took it even though she was full and just spawned in.
Is this considered greifing? Even in the slightest?
Edit: https://vid.me/zem6 Video of it happening through replay.
Sona Ping2 votesI think you should move on.
doiminat0r36002 votesIt's a simple question.
Sona Ping2 votesIt's you searching for reasons to report and hurt others over something that doesn't matter. People take shrines for many reasons all the time. People take shrines from me all the time. People take them accidentally all the time.
No, it's not griefing and you should move on.
Baka Red1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qf2BdKeB,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-29T22:08:52.090+0000)
It's you searching for reasons to report and hurt others over something that doesn't matter. People take shrines for many reasons all the time. People take shrines from me all the time. People take them accidentally all the time.
No, it's not griefing and you should move on.
I disagree; even though sometimes a person with full health/mana takes the heal plus accidentally, and usually it is good to take them so the enemy doesn't get it, there are also times people take them just to grief the other members of their team. I have seen people at full health/mana to even flash to get to the heal plus before a seriously wounded & out of mana ally. Worst case I remember had a person take three plusses in front of our very low health ally, flashing the last one. There are some weird people out there.
Well, the above is imo of course. However I don't believe Riot bot handling the reports can actually detect this happening, but isn't that what the reports are for; reporting people for intentionally doing things we believe are not 'nice'? If the person doing these kinds of things gets reported enough, he might get punished for reducing the fun of the other players at some point. Or he might not. I don't have much belief in the automated punishment system. Well, that is beside the point; If I see a person purposefully take the heal plusses in front of a wounded/oom ally when no enemies are around, I consider that griefing and report it. What Riot bot does with those reports is different matter.
doiminat0r36001 votesIt's not me searching for reasons.
https://vid.me/zem6 This is what happened.
Obvious griefing right there.
RengClaw2 votestaking the hp shrine at full is a valid tactic to prevent the other team from grabing it in a fight
doiminat0r36001 votesNot when both teams are at the enemy nexus, our team almost scores an ace and backs off. Then sivir takes the HP when she is full. Was obviously deliberate because she turned around.
Best Kog NA1 votesNo it's not. You guys won that game anyway right?
doiminat0r36002 votesYeah we won but the experience wasn't very fun. Being constantly harassed by that sivir then having her take my HP right before a fight didn't help the game atmosphere at all.
Best Kog NA1 votesOhh you mean the hp shrines. I thought you meant she was walking all the way back to your base. If she was flaming everyone then that's a different thing. Usually I personally try not to report anybody in ARAM because it's supposed to be a non-serious place but if somebody's flaming a shit ton and it's really bad than I guess it is reportable.
Escheton1 votesDenying them from the enemy when part of your team is dead, and the enemy team will respawn and push is a smart thing to do.
doiminat0r36001 votesLook at the video I added to the post.
THE KILLER GUY1 votesI'm sorry about your game. That has happened to me many times. For now, you'll have to enter any non-Summoner's Rift match with an expectation for a lower quality game. Riot has made it clear that they don't care about what happens as far as player behavior is concerned in arams, dominion (in the past), , twisted treeline, other featured game modes, or custom matches. Many actions, specifically chat behavior, are still reportable across the board, but reports in those game modes are weighed as significantly less important than those in Normal/Ranked matches. Riot staff have openly come forward about this in the past. Even in Summoner's Rift, though, an action akin to unnecessarily taking a health pack from under a teammate would only cause a player to be punished if he received multiple reports from players in that match. If you were the only one who reported the sivir on your team in that game, I can guarantee you nothing will be done about it.
Breaku1 votesIf you're at fountain and click randomly down the aram map, sometimes you'll get the shrines by mistake due to auto pathing if you're not paying attention.
It's happened to me a bunch of times to be honest.