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Mute All

anmyauntieonpo·12/30/2017, 7:51:40 PM·2 votes·401 views

If you are low-elo you need to mute all, or you put yourself at a risk for a ban from natural human retaliation. The players there are insanely toxic and would rather try to tilt you than actually play the game. Anyone having a bad game in that ELO has higher than a 90% chance to either afk, prematurely ask to ff, or further grief the team in some way. It's like if someone starts 0-2 its pretty much guaranteed they will begin to complain and start to propel that negative energy onto your team. The reporting system is unfairly balanced, instigators(usually duo premade) and afk flamers are rarely punished and the retaliators are(human nature to defend yourself).

Having to do this is painful because you actually have to tell silver/gold players what to do to win mid-game in soloquing. Seriously, they don't know how to win in mid game, everyone just wants to monkey down mid and fight under enemy towers...that is not how to play. Rather than listen to you they would rather argue with you and ask the other team to reports...which the opposition will if you are solo carrying and being a nuisance/making it more difficult to their team...out of spite...ya talk about toxic. People don't just want to beat you, they want to ban you to. Its an oppressive thing. Reporting needs to be removed entirely to de-incentivise these passive aggressive trolls...and replaced by an auto-scanner, or the people analyzing reports need to be more aware of the context of the game and aware that these type of people are insanely prominent.

Also, reports should be vastly more weighted towards players who have a weaker impact on the game...actions speak louder than words...someone 1-11 is obviously much more likely to be "toxic" and "negatively influence" the game due to their inability to enjoy their performance than someone going 11-1. 11-1 player always thinks they can win...1-11 thinks its lost no matter what...at least in the low-elo because it is a proven fact they are all mindset centered around K/D only, and not objectives, cs, and gold. You want to fix toxicity you have to cut it off at the source. The source is not retaliatory words, the source is someone having a bad game and then saying something like "i've given up, im not listening, i don't care...ect" Now obviously someone grieving someone for feeding is bad as well and should be punished but it is something like 50x less common in my 500+ games exp. Its almost always the guy having the bad game trying to force his bad game as a narrative for the entire game/team.

It's funny too cuz I come on these boards and same toxic people. 100+ up votes for complaining threads about how games are over at 5 min. They aren't. Stop complaining, stop trying to troll your team because you suck fucking ass. They game isn't broke, the game isn't over, you are just a pussy. PLAY THE GAME. I swear you never win these games too because that one or two people just don't even want to try, but its best if you just mute at start or just mute as soon as you see the first negative text after they begin feeding. At that point there is 0 reasoning with them.

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LostFr0st12/30/2017, 7:56:58 PM3 votes

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If you are low-elo you need to mute all, or you put yourself at a risk for a ban from natural human retaliation. The players there are insanely toxic and would rather try to tilt you than actually play the game. Anyone having a bad game in that ELO has higher than a 90% chance to either afk, prematurely ask to ff, or further grief the team in some way. It's like if someone starts 0-2 its pretty much guaranteed they will begin to complain and start to propel that negative energy onto your team. The reporting system is unfairly balanced, instigators(usually duo premade) and afk flamers are rarely punished and the retaliators are(human nature to defend yourself).

The reporting system does not have weighting. Report = check game. Report != punish.

Having to do this is painful because you actually have to tell silver/gold players what to do to win mid-game in soloquing. Seriously, they don't know how to win in mid game, everyone just wants to monkey down mid and fight under enemy towers...that is not how to play. Rather than listen to you they would rather argue with you and ask the other team to reports...which the opposition will if you are solo carrying and being a nuisance/making it more difficult to their team...out of spite...ya talk about toxic. People don't just want to beat you, they want to ban you to. Its an oppressive thing. Reporting needs to be removed entirely to de-incentivise these passive aggressive trolls...and replaced by an auto-scanner, or the people analyzing reports need to be more aware of the context of the game and aware that these type of people are insanely prominent.

Treat soloqueue teammates like cats. Use blue ping like a laserpointer. They do indeed follow it and when something goes wrong it also doesn't let them know who to blame (no name ping OP).

Also, reports should be vastly more weighted towards players who have a weaker impact on the game...actions speak louder than words...someone 1-11 is obviously much more likely to be "toxic" and "negatively influence" the game due to their inability to enjoy their performance than someone going 11-1. 11-1 player always thinks they can win...1-11 thinks its lost no matter what...at least in the low-elo because it is a proven fact they are all mindset centered around K/D only, and not objectives, cs, and gold. You want to fix toxicity you have to cut it off at the source. The source is not retaliatory words, the source is someone having a bad game and then saying something like "i've given up, im not listening, i don't care...ect" Now obviously someone grieving someone for feeding is bad as well and should be punished but it is something like 50x less common in my 500+ games exp. Its almost always the guy having the bad game trying to force his bad game as a narrative for the entire game/team.

I disagree. The current system with no weighting is more objective and already throws away invalid reports.

Achilles30512/31/2017, 1:40:40 AM2 votes

The saddest truth is that you can get banned from players that retard rage at you for something in game and reporting you "toxicity" and it actually works. Fortunately for all non brain dead players, riot feels that this is perfectly fine and results in the worst company of all time.

Absoluence12/31/2017, 8:32:49 AM1 votes

This is what I recommend everybody to do. This is the best course of action to take in a community wreathed with this toxic filth. Anybody who rather flings curse words than play well when things get ugly are never going to consider anybody else's opinion.

If you even win the argument you will be reported and IFS will flag you down and punish you just because.

One thing, there ARE NOBODY ON THE OTHER END ANALYZING YOUR REPORTS! It's a computer that scans your typed chat log for any banneable words. You may get reported by many people and you will be punished with chat-restriction. If you get caught with typing out banned or curse words then you get 14-day banned. It's a stupid system, I know. But Riot wasn't so smart since dropping Tribunal.