Please Review my Case #23334629. I did not use Scripts / 3rd Party Programs.

Tinlegs·Sep 25, 2016·36 votes·4,866 views

I have recently been sent an email from Riot games stating that I have used malicious software and my account has been banned. I have not used any exploits / macro's / scripts or unauthorized third party programs in League of Legends or any other software to provide a competitive advantage. I have had this account since Beta and it was moved to the OCE servers from NA. During this 5 year period I have never once been accused of using hacks / scripts etc.

In addition to this I have never loaned my account to anyone for "boosting" or otherwise so the option of someone else using scripting on my account isn't an option either. This can be easily verified by the log of the IP addresses you would keep for when people are connecting to your servers.

The only things I have done recently ( 2 ~ 3 weeks ) is migrate my OS to a SSD and because of that I had to move the install directory of LOL to a different drive which meant I cleaned up the install and deleted log files from 5 years ago. As I am not sure what "Triggered" the ban, this is one of a few options that I could think of that may have cause the false identification of my account for a ban. In addition to this I have heard a number of unsubstantiated reports that Discord's overlay feature maybe triggering false reports of hooking into the program.

Now I have tried to address this via the Ticket system that riot has but only gotten a scripted cut and paste response and it is obvious no one has even cast an eye over my issue.

I am more than happy to supply screen shots of background processes / applications etc to prove that I did not and have not used hacks. In addition to this can also provide details of other players who have had similar length of play as I have and have never been accused of scripting etc that I do not hack / script.

Now I am asking someone from Riot who is willing to have an open mind and not immediately assume my guilt look at my situation.

49 Comments

TinlegsSep 25, 201612 votes

For starters you can't even Spell my Nickname right when it is in front of you. Secondly it doesn't matter if it is 99.99999999% accurate they have incorrectly banned my account. I have not broken any of the T&C I have agreed with to play LOL.

Might as well add this on at the end. It is very easy to be 99% accurate when you don't allow the accused party to prove that they are innocent. Which is what riot is doing.

DracocrashSep 25, 20164 votes

He is refering to the spelling of your name because people have gotten banned just by having similar names.

An example - FlZZ FIZZ.

If you focus hard u can see, one word has a lower case L and one word has a upper case i. Unfortunately it is easy to confuse the two and overlook the mistake while banning an account (this has happened before, and the mistake was acknowledged).

So he was just informing you, to ask riot support if they confused your name with "TinIegs" (this has an i, not an L)

Fortunately/unfortunately there is no TinIegs on OCE, so they have definitly not confused your name.

Anyway, im just a regular player. Frankly speaking, I think you look innocent because nobody can use scripts and still remain bronze. I hope you recover your account if you are innocent. :^)

TinlegsSep 25, 20164 votes

NoganksOnlyFarm you are right. I jumped on him a bit cause of the frustration I am feeling atm against RIOT and he bore the brunt of my snarky response.

Tinlegs is a pretty unique name across RIOT and so as you have noted it isn't that they have gotten my name mixed up with someone.

Lastly thanks for your vote of confidence ... I think LOL. Anyway as much as it is worth yes I am innocent.

CrazFight Sep 25, 20169 votes

Riot : Did tinlegs use 3rd party programs ? One way to figure out :o http://quizsocial.com/quimg/8-ball/results/3.jpg

TinlegsSep 25, 20162 votes

LOL, man you have pretty much nailed what this whole experience feels like.

Kei143Sep 25, 20165 votes

3rd party bans are 99.9% accurate.

Try asking if they got the name right by making sure tinglegs is spelt with a lower case "L" instead of a capital "i"

DracocrashSep 25, 201623 votes

"3rd party bans are 99.9% accurate" source?

TinlegsSep 25, 201614 votes

It seems to be a common quote among people who don't want to believe that innocent people are banned. There is no way anyone can know how accurate it is cause Riot refuses to allow you to defend yourself and so if they get a positive notification with their ban system, in this case for scripting then you are banned and they say they won't reverse it under any circumstances.

SarutobiSep 25, 201610 votes

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It seems to be a common quote among people who don't want to believe that innocent people are banned. There is no way anyone can know how accurate it is cause Riot refuses to allow you to defend yourself and so if they get a positive notification with their ban system, in this case for scripting then you are banned and they say they won't reverse it under any circumstances.

To be fair their system catches basically anything that manipulates the client. If you truly are innocent and contact support, they will help you. since you tried that already i would assume they already reviewed your case and found something that made their system think you cheated in some way. Riot does intense research when doing bans like this, hence why they do it in waves to make sure the people abusing this get caught. Yes some people fall through the cracks, but it is very very rare that it does happen, but when it does and they see that they will unban the person!

TinlegsSep 25, 20164 votes

Well I have had people recently say that the new Discord client ( chat Program ) is causing people to get bans because of the overlay feature in the client. I have no way of knowing if this is the case in my case but it could be what is causing it.

BTW telling someone it is very rare to happen doesn't help the person that it happens to as the guy who gets struck by lightening will tell you. The fact is it happens and there should be care taken with those cases.

When it comes down to it I feel as though I have fallen through the cracks and no one at riot seems to care enough to help me.

SarutobiSep 25, 20165 votes

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Well I have had people recently say that the new Discord client ( chat Program ) is causing people to get bans because of the overlay feature in the client. I have no way of knowing if this is the case in my case but it could be what is causing it.

BTW telling someone it is very rare to happen doesn't help the person that it happens to as the guy who gets struck by lightening will tell you. The fact is it happens and there should be care taken with those cases.

When it comes down to it I feel as though I have fallen through the cracks and no one at riot seems to care enough to help me.

Riot isnt that stupid to have a simple chat app (that has nothing to do with the League of legends client) go and have their cheat detection red alert it. I dont get why people make up these types of accusations! But you arent the first to write something like that. Ive seen people think the Win 10 got them ban, or Chrome/FireFox, etc. I really dont get why some people think Riot is that stupid when it comes to stuff like this.

TinlegsSep 25, 20162 votes

Riot does nothing to help in the matter, they will not tell you anything and you are left guessing what it could be. I only know the basics that some of the detection system checks for hooks into the LOL exe which riot employee said " means any program accessing the LOL client from the moment you hit play till the end results screen. This is also the reason as to why some skin programs are being detected and causing bans.

Now your statement and defense of Riot, saying that it isn't that stupid to have that happen is contrary to plenty of examples out there. How about banning someone cause their name looks the same

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/cETPvHAE-black-alistar-king-rammus

or any of the 100's of other stupid mistakes that have been documented on these forums ? Mistakes do and will happen and nothing and nobody is perfect.

It is very easy to say that they get their bans right and other programs don't trigger it when you permanently ban all those that are detected and then refuse to investigate claims of innocence. I too can say I got 100% in every test I took if they were never marked :)

jtgamersSep 26, 20161 votes

my old smurf account got banned because of the mmr system and i was the one who told the admins to go **** themselves and now on my main account im bronze yet its putting me against plat/diamond/challenger players so you know what i say to that "Admins Go **** yourselves" ive already deleted the game and probably gonna try smite or something else and wont hop onto league for probably till the end of next season and i just dont care anymore but any way they dont care about your account or anything else unless money is involved or they have nothing better to do so your best bet is to create a new account or do what im doing looking for something else

TinlegsSep 26, 20162 votes

Sorry to hear that mate. When it comes down to it if I don't get my main account back which has pretty much all the champs, runes and a long list of friends that I have no way of re-creating, then I also will end up deleting LOL.
That doesn't mean though that I am not going to fight like hell to get my account back. They have accused me of doing something that I simply didn't do and I am going to do my best to make sure that they know that and admit to it as they have done in this case.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Yoni8xoR-this-could-be-you-nextplease-read

TinlegsSep 25, 20164 votes

Well it looks like I am not the only one with this problem.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Yoni8xoR-this-could-be-you-nextplease-read

looks almost exactly like what I am experiencing. Kinda brings some doubt to the 99.9% accurate claim

ChroyoSep 25, 20164 votes

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TinlegsSep 25, 20162 votes

LOL Chroyo that is so true, I am so sick of hearing that riot's ban system is 99,9% accurate when I am coming across more and more examples of people being unjustly banned.

IsoVhellSep 26, 20161 votes

Cough* Bullshit.

TinlegsSep 26, 20161 votes

If you want to add to the discussion or have a point of view against mine go for it. But this does neither of those things and makes you seem like a dickhead for saying it.

TheHappyReaperzSep 26, 20161 votes

Only 45% of bullshit actually comes from bulls.

IsoVhellSep 28, 20161 votes

COUGH* BULLSHIT. Stop cheating.

Morality CoachSep 25, 20163 votes

Like people stated the only time these scripting bans are wrong is when they spell the account name wrong.

You already admitted to third party programs stop installing them. You don't need these programs to gain elo.

I believed I was perma gold V this season and after this latest ban wave I'm climbing again, no sympathy.

TinlegsSep 25, 20162 votes

Discord is a chat program and has no impact on game play. Saying that i used 3rd party programs and banning me would mean anyone who uses team speak, Curse, mumble or skype should be banned. LOL sure I am willing to take a ban if riot bans everyone who uses those programs LOLz.

xJLx MCHammerSep 26, 20163 votes

You aren't being accused. If you are being accused of doing something, you would not get banned for it. They have found you guilty and you were banned for it. You might be feeling frustrated and upset at this but I have no doubt doubt in my mind that you got banned because you desired it. Going back all the way to the tribunal, I've seen and read hundred of post from being saying they aren't guilty, or some other petty excuse that make it sound like you are the victim; believe me, I've read it all. All those excuse and then riot would post a chat log of various games them being complete ***holes.

In your case, i'm sure you are asking for proof. I can tell you, riot wont give it to you. They will tell you their system caught you use a 3rd party software or whatever. They wont tell you how, because in many way it compromises how they catch people. Riot has said lately that they will start being more aggressive towards people who use 3rd party software/programs and I guess you are one of them. Oh! and if you think Riot cares that you will end up deleting LoL, they don't care. You have given them enough money and you also cause more damage to them. You use of 3rd part programs make other quit.

That's just me!

TheHappyReaperzSep 26, 20161 votes

I'm sorry, I was reading this comment of yours, then I started having a mental breakdown due to its confliction with my inner grammar Nazi. I don't mean to be rude, but if you ever want a point of yours to be taken seriously, take the time to make sure you are saying what you mean. I'm pretty sure Tin didn't "desire" his ban.

Sai AquariusSep 25, 20162 votes

I Sincerely hope a Rioter sees this an addresses your issue. :(

TinlegsSep 25, 20161 votes

Thanks Angel Aquarius, we need more people like you on the rift and working for riot that is for sure :) I really appreciate your comment and it does make a difference as help with getting this issue noticed by riot.

Spellvamp GarenSep 27, 20162 votes

Take a look at this guy's Lolking and op.gg profiles.

Season 3 = bronze Season 4 = bronze Season 5 = bronze Season 6 = bronze - dropping down to bronze 5, before shooting up to bronze 1 in the span of about a month.

Very high winrates with a couple of recently played with summoners as well.

Something was going on with the account. You don't go from b5 mechanics to shoot up to b1 while significantly out-damaging the other team as an ADC - not when you are a career Bronzie. You don't just suddenly find your groove and become this amazing ADC machine in 30 days.

Also, if you play with Lolking's champ stats section, you'll notice that he's running at about Diamond ADC stats for the past month. Unfortunately, I can't get the op.gg replays to work on my computer or I'd have checked out the lone replay available.

TinlegsSep 27, 20161 votes

I wish you would look at the replay cause you wouldn't see any scripting or 3rd Party programs and I have played every one of those games so I know the IP address is the same for every game. Last time I checked on MF I had a 10/5.8/8 ratio's with MF which is hardly Diamond ADC stat's as I have played against ADC's in bronze with far better KD's than mine. If you could let me know how to view and record the op.GG replays I will try and see what I can do to upload I can use it here as proof. I wish I had known about this earlier so I could have seen if there were more.

As for the Mechanics anyone who is able to view it will notice from the replay that I miss a lot of CS which has always been an issue for me however I know how to use MF's double up shot and I am running Armour Pen ruins which gives me a lot of extra damage on the double up shot early. Another trick with MF is your auto attack "Marks" the person who you attack so that the double up shot will travel further and bounce wider and no one knows this in bronze. Generally by level 3 / 4 I have got both enemy ADC and support poked down to 1/2 health and if they don't recall by lvl 6 it is an easy ulti for the kills.
These early kills allows me to get a role on and once I get the three key items in my build team fights are just a matter of positioning and timing of ulti.

One thing I forgot to mention above is that you are saying I have a high win rate with a couple of summoners and this is also true. I played a great game with a support one or two months ago and we worked well together. Ever since then we had been playing matches together when ever we can and having a smart support makes an ADC's life so much easier.

TinlegsSep 27, 20161 votes

Well you seem very quick to judge me and paint me in a very poor light all but openly calling me a cheater. So lets have a good look at these op.gg stats that you are so willing to hang me on.

For those that wish to view the full details you can go to http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=Tinlegs

Now lets look at the stat's for season 6.

MF ~ KDA 10.1 / 5.9 / 9.1 ( Ratio 3.28:1 )~ Average Dmg Delt 147,871 Morg ~ KDA 6.3 / 5.7 / 12.8 ( **Ratio 3.36:1 **) ~ Average Dmg Delt 129,212 Caitlyn ~ KDA 5.9 / 7.6 / 8.8 ( Ratio 1.94:1 ) ~ Average Dmg Delt **163,412 **

How is it that i have a better Ratio of KDA with Morg and I have done more damage on average with Cait? This has been my experience when I have played Cait. I found teams often would not do much to feed or help the ADC, it was so common to have my kills stolen from me as Cait, so I just stop playing her. I don't know how many times my ulti would be on an enemy champ to finish them off and a team mate would see that as a sign to KS instead of chasing down someone else as that kill was already secured.

Now with MF in team fights it is so much harder to KS champ kills in her ulti. More often if timed right and you have waited till the enemy has used their cool downs you will just clean up and get double / triple kills fairly easily. So with the new Korean Armour Pen build and waiting till I get ulti off on team fights I would often get alot more kills. Any squishes would just die with a short burst.

Season 4 and 5 I hardly played ranked, this was more because I was pissed off with Bronze than anything else really.

So lets go to Season 3. which was the last time I had a decent amount of ranked games.

Anivia ~ KDA 9.0 / 4.0 / 10.0 ( **Ratio 4.75:1 **) ~ Average Dmg Delt **163,409 ** Sona ~ KDA 2.9 / 6.0 / 25.8 ( Ratio 4.77:1 ) ~ Average Dmg Delt 33,959 Caitlyn ~ KDA 7.6 / 5.2 / 7.3 ( Ratio 2.85:1 ) ~ Average Dmg Delt 179,162 Nocturne ~ KDA 5.7 / 3.9 / 7.5 ( **Ratio 3.38:1 **) ~ Average Dmg Delt 137,880

So I have better KDA's in season 3 than season 6 where I am accused of cheating or to be specific in your cause you are insinuating that I had a Diamond player boost my account and they scripted. Hate to tell you that didn't happen.

Now considering the fact that I have better stat's for champs in season 3 it hardly seems like the miracle that you make it out to be that I have improved to climb from B5 to B1. Following on from this point I noticed you also nicely left out the fact that I was B1 at the start of this season and dropped down to B5.

Lastly and finally I would like to point out that Correlation does not equal Causation. Just because I have a quick improvement in my ranking from B5 to B1 in a month does not mean that the cause of this is that I have cheated.

Morality CoachSep 29, 20161 votes

lol, being in Bronze bothered you so much you paid someone to get you out of it, then you got banned.

Embarrasing

TinlegsSep 30, 20161 votes

Well it is good to know you read some of what I said, pitty the comprehension was somewhat lacking. But hey if thinking that stops ya from having to slap ya wiener till it is blue to have some fun who am I to get in your way.

CodyBear Sep 28, 20162 votes

Stop lying to yourself and just move on.

TinlegsSep 28, 20161 votes

I am so glad you have so much faith in the Riot detection system, cause the LOL client has always been perfect and has never given us bug splats or any other issues.

Think what you want to think I doubt you have fully read my first post let alone anything else I have said here so I am fairly convinced that nothing I say will matter to you anyhow. Good luck on the rift and hope you don't get unjustly banned. Cause once you do you are screwed.

IsoVhellSep 25, 20161 votes

I report all scripting you can tell when they are being used. It's not hard to see someone's game mechanics being out of character when they are being used. Maybe you shouldn't cheat, it's that simple.

TinlegsSep 25, 20161 votes

You can believe what you want to believe, I know it is far easier to assume everyone who gets banned is guilty. Thing is I know I didn't cheat and because of that I know that people are unfairly being banned and there is a chance you could end up with a ban like mine, so enjoy that one if it ever comes.

Now there are examples of scripting where it changes the cooldowns on abilities and they can be obvious to spot and there are scripts that allow you to chain abilities. I am more than happy for someone to go into every log of the games I have played and look at the timing of my abilities. All of them would be on the correct cool down and none of the abilities would be chained with the exact timing of a script.

IsoVhellSep 26, 20161 votes

Well I don't cheat in anyway and I have never had issues, ever in any game played, EVER. All of you always come into the forums and start crying after you get busted for cheating and banned thinking it will help you or make you feel better by getting comments from others who cheat too, or the lonely gullible's in life looking for friends. Give it up already... Cheats, and lies, good way to live your life. You know how I bust most of you in game? I ask if you're cheating? And you say,"I never knew there was cheats for this game". And the other odd guy will pipe up saying, "there are no cheats for this you're dumb", good come back? o.O And then the insults start, well because their toxic with no life. So then both of you get reported because you just gave yourselves away! Funny thing about cheaters in games is you never admit your mistakes or confess, that is the biggest way to tell if someone is cheating. ;) The really smart cheaters just don't respond, or play dumb. There are cheat systems being used in this game that riot has no clue are even being used but I can tell. It's not f'n rocket science. And besides if you have to cheat to win, that does not = real earned skill. Once the program I am working comes out to detect cheats in games, no one will ever be able to cheat in a game again. And when that day comes so many of you will banned the day it comes out.

TinlegsSep 26, 20161 votes

Of course you cheat ... you can't prove that you don't. What is more is that you won't admit to your mistake or confess that you are a cheater and this is the biggest way I know you are cheating. You are one of the worst cheaters because you pretend to be against cheating and accuse others of doing the same thing you do day in and out.

Ahhh if I only knew that that statement would actually get you to think about what you are saying. I fear I will have more luck at screaming at my brick wall to change into a window than I will to get you to see a different point of view, think differently and have a rational discussion.

Like you I have played online or off for a long time. I have never cheated in any game and this is the first time for getting a ban from any game. More often than not there are people out there, Pro's etc that can beat people with cheats so I always saw it as a challenge to improve my skills and have the satisfaction of killing and beating someone who is cheating just to tell them how sad it is that they couldn't beat me even with cheats.

Good luck with developing your program to stop cheaters it is not easy to do. You will soon find out that any system you develop will have a way around it which people will exploit.

IsoVhellSep 28, 20161 votes

Not mine. No one will know its even there. And good you don't cheat I had to make sure. I hate cheaters with a passion and if I could taser them I would.

TinlegsSep 28, 20161 votes

Well that is great I guess, Now if only you could lift my ban LOL.

Cpt Jack BirdSep 25, 20161 votes

I mean, somebody once got perma'd for hitting stop repeatedly on Sion during ult, because apparently they couldn't tell the difference between glitches and scripts...

TinlegsSep 27, 20161 votes

That is insane. I hope that they managed to get their account back.

King of MongooseSep 25, 20161 votes

next time don't script :)

TinlegsSep 27, 20161 votes

So what happens if I didn't script in the first place ?

KygenSep 25, 20161 votes

Not gonna lie im in the middle since i cant watch of game of yours since you are banned, but it seems that you are a one trick mf on op.gg. This is a champ very easy to script on as i believe that you can move side to side simply cause of your w, and lets not forget about the rights of having perfect ults in the middle of a fight, but there could be a fact that you were being harassed. Im mostly leaning to the side though since 3rd party bans are very accurate and name spelling doesnt matter names arent case sensitve. Theres also the fact that youre bronze 1 and you wouldnt be banned for scripts by simply dodging one spell

TinlegsSep 25, 20162 votes

ZeroPhear you are right I have been playing a lot of MF recently. I used to play alot of MF in season 2 & 3 but then she went out of favour and didn't seem viable any more. It wasn't until I watched a few video's and a LCS player was talking about the Korean MF build to counter Luician that I tried playing her again with that build that things seem to click.

As for the whole easy to script cause of W, strut only gives you movement speed when you are not attacked, which is pretty useless in a team fight. If it was a dash or something like that yeah I can see your point but extra movement which is cancelled by being hit really doesn't do much. To be honest I don't think there is much you could script for MF, maybe chaining the slow with ulti and that is about it.

It is not easy to get a good channel of an MF ulti off in a team fight. Basically you are rooting yourself for the entire time and a lot of things can interrupt it. Previously I would get my ulti down at the start of fights and this would usually result in either me being dead or only getting a short channel of the ulti. Now I tend to wait until various champions have burnt abilities and only then do I Ulti and when done right it just wins the fights. The thing is though I still need the team to peel for me and I have lost a lot of matches where we could have won if they had worked with me.

That and Yasuo is always banned when I play. God dam he is OP and well nicely counters my ulti.

To that end I have also been playing with friends and getting them to play champs that work with my ulti and an Ori, Malph and MF ulti is just insane.

This season I have been up to Bronze 1 and down to Bronze 4. Every time I was in promo's when I was playing solo I got such annoying teams and losses that should never of happened. One game we were ahead in kills but because of 1 bad team fight they surrendered. Now for important games I try and make sure I am at least Duo.

AvisionSep 26, 20161 votes

My boyfriend was banned and he has never hacked. I spent over 400 on the account and when i contacted riot they did nothing to help. Also, it was during a massive ban wave and they even said some people had accidentally been banned. Yet, did nothing to help the ones who were false banned.

TinlegsSep 26, 20161 votes

I am so sorry to hear that Avision. Sounds like he was in the same situation that I now face myself. It seems to me the only way to have any possible chance of getting our accounts back is to make enough noise in the forums to eventually get the notice of Riot and have a look at it. If I have any success with this I will let you know and maybe we can do the same thing for your boyfriends old account.