What do I do when my team refuses to fight (Ardent Censor Perceptions)?

JRobin31·10/21/2017, 9:09:32 PM·2 votes·371 views

I had a game where my team refused to team fight because I didn't buy item 3504 on my support...

wtf is that? This perception that you can't win without item 3504 is so dumb.

It isn't that players think item 3504 is "meta" that's so dumb. It's the perception that the game is unwinnable without it. My win rate without item 3504 is good.

Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with players that refuse to fight if you don't buy item 3504 ? What should I do? Should I buy item 3504 just to get my team to play the game?

8 Comments

RallerenP10/21/2017, 9:24:17 PM2 votes

The best scenario is one in which you comply with your team and build an ardent. Report them after the game if you think they deserve a punishment.

Of course you are under no obligation to buy it, but if you want the best scenario it's what you do.

Kei14310/21/2017, 10:27:32 PM2 votes

The real question is, how many people on your team can benefit from it and whether the person(s) that benefit from it really do benefit from it.

If you only have 1 constant AAer, and he sucks, too afraid to go into and fight, I would just debunk them and say that our team's casters are the carry and I'll buy items to support their survival instead.

On the other hand, if you had Kayle, Jax, Sona, Xin, and any ADC, it'll be silly NOT to go ardent. Infact, even if the support was a Garen, I would have gone Bond of stone w/ FrozenMallet into Ardents into full tank. Regardless of how inefficient that item is on Garen.

Duchess Katarina10/21/2017, 11:15:13 PM1 votes

I mean it's a really good item to get on healing/shielding supports since it gives you, and whoever you shield/heal a bunch of crazy good stats. Who doesn't want 10% increased healing/shielding?

I would argue it's almost item 2049 status. Can you do well/win a game without it? Sure. But does it benefit your team and give you an advantage if used correctly? Absolutely.

item 3504 is really good atm, not as strong as it was before, but still worth picking up and buying.

However, I don't agree with your team not fighting just because you didn't buy the item. Hopefully you don't run into another team that does that, but if you do, I guess buy it just so they don't keep harassing you. (Although knowing some people, they'll still find a reason to harass you.)

Best of luck out there!