Need advice on a bad game and what I could improve.

Destructron·5/13/2016, 2:32:15 AM·3 votes·848 views
League of Legends Match History

Okay so right now I might be tilting and just need to calm down a little bit but I want to see what you guys think I could of done this game to help my teammates and got the win or was there nothing I could do and just have that lose? Okay so I'm going to put my mind set in here first few minutes of the game I'm setting up wards into brush for my jungler in case they get chessed. Go into lane against a Leblanc and was doing alright at csing with my q (as Veigar ) almost at 2 minutes Riven dies to Renekton for first blood didn't think of it and then bot lane traded 2 kills for 1 kill which is fine. At this point Leblanc keeps pushing me under tower so I can't roam and make plays. Idk if the top lane and the bot lane were trolling or feeding or not. I'm actually trying to get better at this game and move up. I'm posting the match history in the board to see if anyone has advice they can give me.

13 Comments

Ada Wong5/13/2016, 3:26:47 AM2 votes

If everyone is going to feed sometimes the best option is to just (Group at 6 Early) and force fights, a lot of players don't do this and keep thinking the game is about individual lanes being won and by then its 10 kills your team 30 kills enemy team and every tower is gone but theirs...

Guyy Fieri5/13/2016, 3:16:31 AM2 votes

Just from that match history's couple things. First off, sometimes you just can't win a game no matter how you do in lane if your teams feeds (which they did). Further, I am sorry if this sounds rude but 58 cs in 22 minutes is not good. You want to have 150 (minimum) by that point especially as a control Mage. With that being said, LeBlanc was making so many plays elsewhere that, while you weren't really feeding, LeBlanc was getting fed off of your side lanes and then bringing that gold back to lane and making your matchup even worse.

As a control Mage, you want to punish those roams from assasin Mids. Push to your tower hard, put damage on the tower, maybe even take it. I would need to watch the game itself to offer too much else but when you play a champion think about what that champion wants to do most.

Example, when I play Gnar I want to be a lane bully and a team fight tank. If I'm not succeeding at that, then I am not performing to my maximum capacity and am probably actually putting myself at risk. When someone plays LeBlanc, their goal is to roam bit and kill the ADC and get fed. If they are doing that, then they won't be effective. A control Mage like Veigar wants to exert superior minion wave control over their lane opponent and prevent them from roaming as easily. With that being said, that's tough I to a LeBlanc (as she has enough safe wave clear to generally be ok and counters immobile mages). There are other control mages that will generally have an easier time into LeBlanc than Veigar.

Wiggle Dat Butt5/15/2016, 6:51:28 PM1 votes

1.) You could have actually tried csing. 58 CS at 22 minutes is absolutely atrocious. No wonder you got creamed. 2.) When you go against a LeBlanc, your ONLY job is to cs and not die to her. If you have to back 10 times, then back 10 times.. but don't give her any kills. 3.) Yes your teammates were appalling. They were so bad, but you didn't have to jump off the deep end with them. 4.) I recommend playing bots until you can get 110 cs at 15 minutes, you don't even have to have an opponent at first. Then add an opponent. This is the start of improving your game.

Edit: Also, especially against LeBlanc, you probably should rush an Abyssal. This will cut her kill potential down, and it gives you CDR now. Win/win. You can't just rush damage against someone who bursts a lot harder than you do. Later on in the game you will one shot her if you just stack your q and get enough items to live.

71883083DEL15/13/2016, 2:43:29 AM1 votes

You are running into groups of people breaking the busted champs. Try to ignore your losses, some of them really aren't deserved! =)

AnnieLuvsTibberz5/13/2016, 7:49:54 PM1 votes

If you want opinions on your games try using http://www.replay.gg/ to record your games so other players can watch them later or you can go back and review/analyze those games for mistakes too. We'd be able to give you much better advice if we could actually watch the game as it happened. If all of your team was feeding hard though then there might not really be much of anything you could have done differently. Don't sweat it to much if it's just a normal game. Just surrender at 20 and hope that your next game you have better luck. If it's rank that can be more annoying, though, I'm sure. Just remember at the end of the day it's just a game. Don't stress out too much over winning and losing. Anyways if you want advice on future games try to use replay.gg service and post the game here. If i see it i can try to give you some tips if i see any mistakes. Don't get me wrong I'm far from perfect/pro either. I'm just a silver 3 going on silver 2 hoping for gold 5 before the season ends. If i see any obvious mistakes on your part i can let you know though. If you are losing a lot of your games because of bad teammates you might consider finding some friends that you can play premade games with instead. That might help with your winrate a bit.

ThaneBrood5/15/2016, 3:43:16 AM1 votes

Agree with grouping dynamic after lanning is good,but its important to get into a team fight formation and before that---- ping "choke points "locations to team fight--- gank ect--- by dragon ,in lane , under turret.... for your situation I would recommend staying under tower and using veigars stun to set the lane pace zone out LB. A lot of people complain about being called out when dyeing but in low ello a lot of players have bad habits that need ,,,, help like fighting instead of sustaing opponents... till help arrives................Tuff it out matee

hh the thinker5/13/2016, 2:46:04 AM1 votes

i think for that game, it would have been really, really hard to win as veigar. you need time to scale, and other team didn't really give you that. that's one weakness of picking a late game champ. in reverse though, if you pick an early game champ and the game gets to late game, you can find it just as hard.

i think getting item 3001 first vs Lb might have helped you a bit more for the laning, but other than that, you mostly needed to delay the game as much as you could when your team is behind.