Racial slurs, homophobia, usually in all caps in all chat. Report & move on right? So why am I seeing them from a lot of players in a majority of games?
Does riot not ban this anymore? Or are they just super fking tolerant with hate speech?
OurLestrade4 votesNobody says a word in most of my games.
Kei1431 votes^
vOmvbrawfU1 votesIt's sad that's what the community turned the game into.
OurLestrade1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sharkbait Ohaha,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-03-30T10:21:06.883+0000)
It's sad that's what the community turned the game into.
On EUW it might just be language stuff, plenty of players who don't speak the same language :O
vOmvbrawfU4 votesNo, it's the same on NA. People just afraid to talk now because something as small as, "play safe" gets you attacked by your team for "being toxic" and flagged by rito's system for toxicity.
Kei1432 votesyou, my man, are delusional on how the system works.
vOmvbrawfU2 votesNah, I just realize the causes of toxicity and am smart enough to realize that they way they're going about it isn't going to work...just like it hasn't for the past 4+ years :)
Kei1432 voteswhatever you say my man. whatever you say.
Tinfoil hats are stronk afterall.
vOmvbrawfU1 votesWhatever I say? It's not exactly my "opinion" that this community has become more toxic that it has and that no improvements are being made with their current system. That's just a fact.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sharkbait Ohaha,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T10:50:33.741+0000)
People just afraid to talk now because something as small as, "play safe" gets you attacked by your team for "being toxic" and flagged by rito's system for toxicity.
That is what has been coined (by me) as "The Draconian System".
The game was better prior to its implementation.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesThe Draconian System
Dominick Destine1 votes
Niyumi4 votesThe only thing I "hate" is vanity -- though I really kind of dislike attitudes like yours. Doesn't matter what color, religion or sexuality you are -- in fact, I really don't care about any of that. But if you're going to freak out and have a little tantrum because I used a "homophobic" word that's "hateful" and all that... well, yeah, you just need to be slapped and set in a corner for a time out.
Thing is, a word is a word. Just because I use the word English people refer to cigarette butts with as kind of a mild curse word doesn't mean I'm simultaneously wishing doom on every homosexual in the world -- so why do you have to freak out? I grew up talking like that, before I even knew what homosexuality was.
But, nowadays, I have to catch and stop myself from talking like I normally would, and I have to alter words and all that so I don't have some vain little asshat having a tantrum and reporting me so that wonderful companies like Riot can enable your shitty attitude and ban / suspend / chat ban me. Kind of wish people could think for themselves and not be incredibly, incredibly vain... but I know that won't happen, since people become worse and worse every day.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesit's not because you used it - it's how it's used.
the N word would be perfectly fine if it wasnt for how it has been used.
you need to educate yourself better.
Niyumi2 votesNo, it's just because I used the word. Doesn't matter the intent or usage of it. Hell, I could think of a few ways people use the N word that has nothing to do with people of color -- yet they're all considered hate speech because it happens to be the same word.
Say someone does something to me that's kind of jerky. I call them the fa____t word, and I'm immediately considered a homophobe, get chat banned at minimum, and all that. When I say that word though, gay people have nothing to do with it. It's just a word I used growing up to kind of call someone an asshat without being vulgar -- but that doesn't matter to an SJW. So, now I can't use that word, because it's "hate speech" and offends people who live for vanity. I say it in Discord all the fucking time, and no one bats an eye, but I am VERY apprehensive about using it in game. All it takes is one report, and I'm done with the game.
I don't need to "educate" myself on anything; people are vain, petty things, and freak out about something as frivolous as a word. Don't need to educate myself to know that.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesit doesnt matter the intent or usage of a word in a modern setting when the word has a negative connotation associated with it and has had that negative connotation for decades and centuries.
the only valid reason people who use the N word are doing so because it's the only way they feel they are able to reduce the sting of the word. some are ignorant of their ancestors strife and others are doing it as a fad and neither of those two reasons are furthering the cause of overall acceptance. the word needs to be forgotten and buried along with all of the hatred it represents.
take the word "nazi" for example. if anyone were to create an organization that used those four letters as an acronym it doesnt matter the reason for the organizations purpose or existence. it would be ridiculed and associated with the WWII nazi's and be most likely reprimanded and treated as such.
there are 3 things at work when it comes to societies views on a word : 1. time 2. language of origin 3. purpose of origin
the length of time a word has been used as an offensive or oppressive slur is directly related to how wide-spread the word becomes. in modern times we have the internet so it doesnt take very long for a word to become wide spread. in ancient and pre-industrial times though slurs were spread through word of mouth and thereby limiting the spread of the word to other cultures and languages.
being a homosexual male has led to even longer oppression since the very beginning of time since men and women in ancient times were given roles to promote fast tribal and national growth. homosexual men were considered and by some still are considered a hindrance on the natural ways of life. lesbians were not as harshly criticized because many early cultures engaged in polygamy and the abuse of women for sexual satisfaction. that's where language of origin comes into play.
now after reading that let me explain why what you're doing now and what you did while you were a kid is the entire reason why you shouldnt be doing so in the first place
the word has been used to offend homosexual males in the past. recreating a word does not change the definition of a word.
you're not going to one day start calling your hotdog wienies "penises" and then go around asking other people if they want a bite of your penis. would you pass the mustard for my penis. i prefer chili on my penises. do you smell penises cooking? someone must be having a penisroast.
using a word incorrectly doesnt change the official meaning of a word either. if you were to tell everyone that your boats tire's flat and your wife isnt home right now so you dont have a dog to yell the neighbors at the cheese - would anyone care what you meant? no. they wouldnt.
languages exist because we are not all from the same tribe and tribes grew up in vastly diverse and distant areas with little to no way to communicate between each other
it is improper to use a word that causes emotional harm - that is a fact.
a harmful word is a harmful word.
there is no reason to create any more languages because you're not from a tribe that is unable to communicate with the rest of the world. you were born inside of a nation - whatever that nation may be - with a language and that language while still considered alive and ever changing will never rewrite any of the languages words that are set in foundation for any reason other than to exclude a word for its negative connotations. you're not going to one day make the word death mean life and vise versa. you're not going to one day make happy mean waffle. the only thing that society can do is make new words for new inventions or discoveries, create new words which represent certain specific abstract or concrete combinations for convenience purposes, or use words in coded language which eventually grants double meaning depending on how widespread it becomes.
the first step to avoiding ignorance is accepting education.
Sorin Alucard2 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T13:01:54.492+0000)
it doesnt matter the intent or usage of a word in a modern setting when the word has a negative connotation associated with it and has had that negative connotation for decades and centuries.
the only valid reason people who use the N word are doing so because it's the only way they feel they are able to reduce the sting of the word. some are ignorant of their ancestors strife and others are doing it as a fad and neither of those two reasons are furthering the cause of overall acceptance. the word needs to be forgotten and buried along with all of the hatred it represents.
take the word "nazi" for example. if anyone were to create an organization that used those four letters as an acronym it doesnt matter the reason for the organizations purpose or existence. it would be ridiculed and associated with the WWII nazi's and be most likely reprimanded and treated as such.
there are 3 things at work when it comes to societies views on a word : 1. time 2. language of origin 3. purpose of origin
the length of time a word has been used as an offensive or oppressive slur is directly related to how wide-spread the word becomes. in modern times we have the internet so it doesnt take very long for a word to become wide spread. in ancient and pre-industrial times though slurs were spread through word of mouth and thereby limiting the spread of the word to other cultures and languages.
- considering that fact you have to realize that the N word was used by SEVERAL nations and SEVERAL languages to directly harass and demean a very specific feature about a person - their skin color - for HUNDREDS of years or more and is still used even today for that exact same purpose.
being a homosexual male has led to even longer oppression since the very beginning of time since men and women in ancient times were given roles to promote fast tribal and national growth. homosexual men were considered and by some still are considered a hindrance on the natural ways of life. lesbians were not as harshly criticized because many early cultures engaged in polygamy and the abuse of women for sexual satisfaction. that's where language of origin comes into play.
- the english cigarette word you're referring to is a direct insult to a homosexual male. the reason why the phrase homosexual male isnt considered a slur is because there has never been a long period of time where it was used for anything other than scientific classification of a person's mate preference. there has never been a longstanding period where the phrase has been used in a hate-filled manner. comparing someone to a flame or a glowing light would have been completely fine if it werent for the negative connotation passed down through history.
now after reading that let me explain why what you're doing now and what you did while you were a kid is the entire reason why you shouldnt be doing so in the first place
the word has been used to offend homosexual males in the past. recreating a word does not change the definition of a word.
you're not going to one day start calling your hotdog wienies "penises" and then go around asking other people if they want a bite of your penis. would you pass the mustard for my penis. i prefer chili on my penises. do you smell penises cooking? someone must be having a penisroast.
using a word incorrectly doesnt change the official meaning of a word either. if you were to tell everyone that your boats tire's flat and your wife isnt home right now so you dont have a dog to yell the neighbors at the cheese - would anyone care what you meant? no. they wouldnt.
languages exist because we are not all from the same tribe and tribes grew up in vastly diverse and distant areas with little to no way to communicate between each other
- words are based on alphabet characters
- alphabet characters are based on sounds
- sounds are used to describe concrete objects
- concrete objects are used to describe abstract ideas
- abstract ideas are used to describe emotions
- emotions determine the purpose of a word
- a words purpose defines the word
- a word is defined by the emotions that a word causes.
it is improper to use a word that causes emotional harm - that is a fact.
a harmful word is a harmful word.
there is no reason to create any more languages because you're not from a tribe that is unable to communicate with the rest of the world. you were born inside of a nation - whatever that nation may be - with a language and that language while still considered alive and ever changing will never rewrite any of the languages words that are set in foundation for any reason other than to exclude a word for its negative connotations. you're not going to one day make the word death mean life and vise versa. you're not going to one day make happy mean waffle. the only thing that society can do is make new words for new inventions or discoveries, create new words which represent certain specific abstract or concrete combinations for convenience purposes, or use words in coded language which eventually grants double meaning depending on how widespread it becomes.
the first step to avoiding ignorance is accepting education.
Ok. First off, well done on quoting and stating why N an F words are offensive You're right.
Except you're also wrong. On the flip side of usage, its different in different places, context, humor, etc.
Examples: When a gay guy turns to another man and says, "dude, you're a f*** F*****". The Friday Movies, and many other parts of modern, American culture.
Why would I even point this out despite admitting how offensive the words can be? Because you can be angry all you want, but you won't stop the diverse and evolutionary nature of language.
Gay used to mean happy %%%%%% used to mean ignorant %%%got used to mean cigarette Honky has a whole crazy possible list of derivatives
Literally is losing its definition because its used too often "Bae" wasn't a word that referred to a lover until uneducated people assumed what it meant and used it so much it changed "Cray" is not short for "crazy", except now it is. "%%%%%" is pretty much "dude" for anyone NOT on kick to make us feel like its 1960
Basically you need to chill your language crusade its about as fruitful as the Tumblr community demanding strangers automatically know which gender to refer to themselves as before conversation even happens
For all you know, Waffle might mean "wobble" next week.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sorin Alucard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T14:37:48.715+0000)
Ok. First off, well done on quoting and stating why N an F words are offensive You're right.
Except you're also wrong. On the flip side of usage, its different in different places, context, humor, etc.
Examples: When a gay guy turns to another man and says, "dude, you're a f*** F*****". The Friday Movies, and many other parts of modern, American culture.
Why would I even point this out despite admitting how offensive the words can be? Because you can be angry all you want, but you won't stop the diverse and evolutionary nature of language.
Gay used to mean happy %%%%%% used to mean ignorant %%%got used to mean cigarette Honky has a whole crazy possible list of derivatives
Literally is losing its definition because its used too often "Bae" wasn't a word that referred to a lover until uneducated people assumed what it meant and used it so much it changed "Cray" is not short for "crazy", except now it is. "%%%%%" is pretty much "dude" for anyone NOT on kick to make us feel like its 1960
Basically you need to chill your language crusade its about as fruitful as the Tumblr community demanding strangers automatically know which gender to refer to themselves as before conversation even happens
For all you know, Waffle might mean "wobble" next week.
im not wrong. you're mislead by an ignorant yet popular opinion that was created through media.
example 1 - i explained this already, but i'll explain it again. the word is oppressive. you cant change that fact and neither can a homosexual male and another homosexual male by using it to refer to each other. it's no more right for them to do it than it is for anyone else to do it. that's the equivalent of calling your wife a "bitch" just because she's your wife. some people are ignorant to the meaning of a word and some people just dont care how badly they're treated by others. some do it to mock the reality. all of those reasons are wrong. you cannot change a global or regional outlook on something just because someone says it's okay i like it when you call me that.
you're pointing out flawed points and if i can help you understand why they're flawed im fine with it as i'm sure anyone who reads these posts would be as well. im not angry. language doesnt evolve the way you're descibing in order to allow you to call someone a name in a negative manner and not be reprimanded for calling someone a name in a negative manner.
and shit used to mean separation - what's your point?
honky has 2 possible origins that i found on this website - http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/756/whats-the-origin-of-honky
Dear David:
I like a man who's got his priorities straight. Honky comes from bohunk and hunky, derogatory terms for Bohemian, Hungarian, and Polish immigrants that came into use around the turn of the century. According to Robert Hendrickson, author of the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins, black workers in Chicago meat-packing plants picked up the term from white workers and began applying it indiscriminately to all Caucasians. Probably thought they all looked alike. Another source for honky
Dear Cecil:
Your source for the origin of honky only gave you half the story. Another probable etymon for honky, cited by David Dalby in his "African Element in American English" (to be found in my Rappin' and Stylin' Out: Communication in Urban Black America) is the Wolof term honq, "red, pink," a term frequently used in to describe white men in African languages.
— Tom Kochman, professor of communication, University of Illinois at Chicago
both are negative in nature, but white men were never oppressed in north america by any other faction. just like how i explained that the word used to describe cigarettes in england would have been fine as a word had it not been used to harass and demean and oppress.
using the word literally incorrectly just means you literally used it incorrectly. it's not going to lose its literal definition just because someone literally doesnt understand what literally means. thats literally not how a language evolves and whoever taught you that it is figuratively has their head in their rear.
bae IS a new word and IS DEFINED in the dictionary without ANY negative connotation or previous history. this is how language evolves.
same with cray
the only thing that society can do is make new words for new inventions or discoveries, create new words which represent certain specific abstract or concrete combinations for convenience purposes, or use words in coded language which eventually grants double meaning depending on how widespread it becomes.
the N word is NOT the same the as DUDE and will never be the same thing as DUDE because DUDE doesnt have a negative connotation and a history of strife behind it. the 1600's - 1960's arent the only time the word was used to offend and demean. the word has a looooooong history and had the people that were referred to not been enslaved, beaten, and killed simply for their skin color then maybe we could all use it freely, but HISTORY DOES EXIST. if you and others want a word that represents that community in a positive manner i recommend coming up with one - like nutella. everyone loves nutella. even people who hate chocolate and peanut butter love nutella.
tumblers gender crusade is ignorant not because it's wrong to ask a person their born gender, but because the concern of gender automatically making someone unworthy of being associated with.
a transgendered male or female cannot mate with a partner and produce offspring. two men cannot mate and produce offspring. two women cannot mate without science to produce offspring. if someone is looking for a mate in order to produce offspring from their genes and raise a family then knowing someone's gender is a very valid and important discussion topic that should not be treated as if it's taboo.
the thing is that you shouldnt be on tumblr trying to hook up with people in the first place. it's not a dating site. it's a blog site. ACTUAL dating sites do require a gender specification.
waffle currently means about 4 things and none of which are used to oppress people - though one is rather sexual and improper. if there ever comes a time when some race of people with porous holes in their pastie white skin become subjected to oppression and hatred and are referred to as waffles in an oppressive manner then waffle will be added to the list of oppressive words that should not be used to address people. does that mean you wont be able to use the word in every day language? no. it just means that if you call someone a waffle then you're likely to be in trouble for harassment even if you think they taste delicious with syrup and blueberries.
Sorin Alucard1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T15:48:48.136+0000)
im not wrong. you're mislead by an ignorant yet popular opinion that was created through media.
example 1 - i explained this already, but i'll explain it again. the word is oppressive. you cant change that fact and neither can a homosexual male and another homosexual male by using it to refer to each other. it's no more right for them to do it than it is for anyone else to do it. that's the equivalent of calling your wife a "bitch" just because she's your wife. some people are ignorant to the meaning of a word and some people just dont care how badly they're treated by others. some do it to mock the reality. all of those reasons are wrong. you cannot change a global or regional outlook on something just because someone says it's okay i like it when you call me that.
you're pointing out flawed points and if i can help you understand why they're flawed im fine with it as i'm sure anyone who reads these posts would be as well. im not angry. language doesnt evolve the way you're descibing in order to allow you to call someone a name in a negative manner and not be reprimanded for calling someone a name in a negative manner.
and shit used to mean separation - what's your point?
honky has 2 possible origins that i found on this website - http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/756/whats-the-origin-of-honky
both are negative in nature, but white men were never oppressed in north america by any other faction. just like how i explained that the word used to describe cigarettes in england would have been fine as a word had it not been used to harass and demean and oppress.
using the word literally incorrectly just means you literally used it incorrectly. it's not going to lose its literal definition just because someone literally doesnt understand what literally means. thats literally not how a language evolves and whoever taught you that it is figuratively has their head in their rear.
bae IS a new word and IS DEFINED in the dictionary without ANY negative connotation or previous history. this is how language evolves.
same with cray
the N word is NOT the same the as DUDE and will never be the same thing as DUDE because DUDE doesnt have a negative connotation and a history of strife behind it. the 1600's - 1960's arent the only time the word was used to offend and demean. the word has a looooooong history and had the people that were referred to not been enslaved, beaten, and killed simply for their skin color then maybe we could all use it freely, but HISTORY DOES EXIST. if you and others want a word that represents that community in a positive manner i recommend coming up with one - like nutella. everyone loves nutella. even people who hate chocolate and peanut butter love nutella.
tumblers gender crusade is ignorant not because it's wrong to ask a person their born gender, but because the concern of gender automatically making someone unworthy of being associated with.
a transgendered male or female cannot mate with a partner and produce offspring. two men cannot mate and produce offspring. two women cannot mate without science to produce offspring. if someone is looking for a mate in order to produce offspring from their genes and raise a family then knowing someone's gender is a very valid and important discussion topic that should not be treated as if it's taboo.
the thing is that you shouldnt be on tumblr trying to hook up with people in the first place. it's not a dating site. it's a blog site. ACTUAL dating sites do require a gender specification.
waffle currently means about 4 things and none of which are used to oppress people - though one is rather sexual and improper. if there ever comes a time when some race of people with porous holes in their pastie white skin become subjected to oppression and hatred and are referred to as waffles in an oppressive manner then waffle will be added to the list of oppressive words that should not be used to address people. does that mean you wont be able to use the word in every day language? no. it just means that if you call someone a waffle then you're likely to be in trouble for harassment even if you think they taste delicious with syrup and blueberries.
LMFAO I like your humor, no joke. I do think that my points went right over your head I'm afraid lol You seem to confuse Is/was with should most often. For all the words not used for oppression, they were examples of the unpredictably of language change. Those kinds of changes are just as applicable to any word, including pejorative ones. "Dude" was/has/is used as an insult btw. It started as a way to refer to "prissy, foppish", usually "new yorker" men who were too obsessed with clothes. It then has connotations as a way for either an Elder or "richer" person would refer to a deliquent. It can be used to insult Surfers, Skaters, and even "poor people that won't arise from their station". That's a vast difference in usage/meaning in such a short time of the word existing. I dare say that society is moving towards the cultural destigmatization of some with an increase of stigmatization of gender titles lol. So chill %%%%%h lol
I'm playing Devil's Advocate. You can't control language change. I thought you were angry. I apologize. You look like you're doing something like "cursing the weather" from my viewpoint. Js I enjoy the discussion. Can we waffle onto an understanding? XD
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesthere's nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate. just make sure you do it tactfully. it's a great tool for furthering understanding and open mindedness.
Sorin Alucard1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:50:56.227+0000)
there's nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate. just make sure you do it tactfully. it's a great tool for furthering understanding and open mindedness.
Ill give you the fudge of example, i did misread it.
you were offended by crusade? really?
oh man. You've bigger problems to deal with my friend. Once again, is/was vs should. Your expectations of strangers are far, far too high. Until you understand should vs is, my arguments will continue to sail over you.
Niyumi1 votesHA! HAHAHAHA! Oh, wow, just read through everything you posted... do you need a hug or something?
Anyway, before I go on and dissect everything you spewed, let me educate you a bit:
Slavery is a hot topic in America for whatever reason. The people of color love to bring it up, especially if you use the forbidden word, and cite all kinds of "history" of abuse and whatnot, so you should feel apologetic to people who actually never went through anything. Funny thing is though, that slavery has been going on for as long as we have recorded history -- and it had nothing to do with blacks! Whites (particularly Romans and Greeks) have had white slaves for many, many, many years. Now, why don't people feel sorry for whites, if we were all slaves before them? In Africa, black people have been enslaving other black people for just as long too... oh but wait, no, only white people are so heartless and cruel! I'm obviously lying. Sorry.
Annnnyway, on to language talk.
Lesson one: Literal meaning vs. connotative meaning
So, a word can have a literal definition (and in this case, the N word's literal definition is to be ignorant -- but we don't talk about that), and it can have a meaning given to it by connotation, which, in this case, is how the N word is perceived. Does that mean that every use of the N word is automatically derogatory and evil? Nope. Blacks even use it among themselves A LOT, and they even say it to me. Do I freak out and get upset? No. Do I freak out when they call me cracker? Well, it depends on their tone and how they use the word. If they're trying to use it as an insult, I'll think less of them because they're using skin color as something negative (just kind of showing off their vanity and living skin deep), but otherwise I won't care. So then, why can't I use the N word in the same fashion?
And hey, you know what? One of the people in my Discord chat is a HYPER Liberal black guy! You know how much he cares when we say the N word? Oh, hey, none whatsoever.
Alrighty, language lesson number two: Dialects, and idioms.
So, this goes for literally every language in the world. In America, for example, we have at least three major dialects with varying pronunciations and different idiomatic expressions. What that means, is that people use different words and say them differently depending on where you're from. This can be large-scale, like West Coast vs. Southern vs. East Coast accents, or it can be as small-scale as your state or county. So, while fa___t means the butt of a used cigarette in Britain, it typically means asshole in America. Now, if you're an SJW, any usage of the word is automatically an insult to every homosexual in the world, and the entire usage of the word should be banned -- despite it being used for, you know, hundreds of years, with the original connotation.
Oh, and, as far as individual people not changing the language at all... go listen to people talk. Actually listen to their pronunciations and word choice. Everyone has unique idiomatic speech patterns, whether you wanna admit it or not.
Okay, so now that I'm done lecturing on language, let's talk about what you actually said... which was a lot of nothing. I can sum everything you said up to a few points.
"I'm right, you're wrong."
"It's offensive to everyone no matter what."
"I know better than you."
Now, I know you and every other SJW can't accept when your word is not fact, but language is not a solid thing. It's always changing, and varies depending on where you go (even if it's the same language). In Japan, for example, the term "baka" (a word I hope everyone here has heard at least once) is generally light-hearted and not really that insulting. But, if you go to specific regions, it becomes a VERY serious insult. In America, the N word isn't always something people freak out about. In a liberal city, yeah. But down south, not in a major city, people throw the word around and don't care (actually, the same applies everywhere. Liberal cities will freak out, people in small towns or in the country don't give a damn). Just because you have a certain feeling attached to a word does not mean that everyone does. Hell, my cousin is gay and is married to another guy, is becoming transgendered, and changed his name. I still call him by his birth name, and I use the word fa___t around him all the time, even they use the word... you know how much he or his husband care?
And, please, stop using the word "oppressing." It doesn't mean what you think it does.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesSlavery is a hot topic in America for whatever reason. The people of color love to bring it up, especially if you use the forbidden word, and cite all kinds of "history" of abuse and whatnot, so you should feel apologetic to people who actually never went through anything. Funny thing is though, that slavery has been going on for as long as we have recorded history -- and it had nothing to do with blacks! Whites (particularly Romans and Greeks) have had white slaves for many, many, many years. Now, why don't people feel sorry for whites, if we were all slaves before them? In Africa, black people have been enslaving other black people for just as long too... oh but wait, no, only white people are so heartless and cruel! I'm obviously lying. Sorry.
because slavery happened RECENTLY in America. African americans and their children werent considered equals until the 60's roman gladiators happened in ROME 1700 years ago and it obviously didnt effect you.
Lesson one: Literal meaning vs. connotative meaning So, a word can have a literal definition (and in this case, the N word's literal definition is to be ignorant -- but we don't talk about that), and it can have a meaning given to it by connotation, which, in this case, is how the N word is perceived. Does that mean that every use of the N word is automatically derogatory and evil? Nope. Blacks even use it among themselves A LOT, and they even say it to me. Do I freak out and get upset? No. Do I freak out when they call me cracker? Well, it depends on their tone and how they use the word. If they're trying to use it as an insult, I'll think less of them because they're using skin color as something negative (just kind of showing off their vanity and living skin deep), but otherwise I won't care. So then, why can't I use the N word in the same fashion? And hey, you know what? One of the people in my Discord chat is a HYPER Liberal black guy! You know how much he cares when we say the N word? Oh, hey, none whatsoever.
neither YOU nor YOUR RECENT FAMILY were EVER enslaved nor a "cracker"BLACKS are not african americans. i dont understand why you think that your discord chat buddy has any connection to the word in the first place. unless your discord chat buddy was part of the experience or has or has had a family member that they knew directly and care deeply about who was enslaved or otherwise berated by the use of the word then this matter doesnt pertain to that particular individual. that'd be like saying "my jewish friend says nazis are cool." for someone who claims to understand that not all black people are affected by the word yet uses an example of someone who possibly isnt affected by the word as a reason to justify the word you've made a poor argument.the literal definition is actually closer to "person with black skin". you have to understand what etymology is to understand literal definitions and word origins. the etymology of the N word
Alrighty, language lesson number two: Dialects, and idioms. So, this goes for literally every language in the world. In America, for example, we have at least three major dialects with varying pronunciations and different idiomatic expressions. What that means, is that people use different words and say them differently depending on where you're from. This can be large-scale, like West Coast vs. Southern vs. East Coast accents, or it can be as small-scale as your state or county. So, while fa___t means the butt of a used cigarette in Britain, it typically means asshole in America. Now, if you're an SJW, any usage of the word is automatically an insult to every homosexual in the world, and the entire usage of the word should be banned -- despite it being used for, you know, hundreds of years, with the original connotation. Oh, and, as far as individual people not changing the language at all... go listen to people talk. Actually listen to their pronunciations and word choice. Everyone has unique idiomatic speech patterns, whether you wanna admit it or not.
incorrect use of a language does not change a language. you're referring to dialect - which is completely different from an entire language. regardless unless that dialect spreads and becomes so large that it evolves into its own language then everything that is unique to that dialect is still just considered slang - otherwise known as local speak. it's pretty hard for new dialects and languages to pop up because the world has been mostly explored and inhabited. the 47% that is uninhabited mostly consists of the poles, the saharan desert, the outback in australia, and the dense tropical rainforests of central south america. those locations are either uninhabitable or protected to preserve wildlife. of the 53% that is inhabited roughly 40% of that population has access to internet. it may not be top quality internet, but they have access to it. of all of the population in the world the only place where a dialect is likely to grow into a new language is among the isolated people or the uncontacted tribes.
- "I'm right, you're wrong."
that's my opinion. you dont have to agree with it. i have facts to back my opinion up. you have supporters - i win by default as facts hold more merit, but that doesnt mean that my opinion has to be accepted on facts - many people stated the world was flat. that doesnt mean they were right and that doesnt mean that the people who said otherwise were wrong. it just means that a lot of people had no idea what they were talking about. i think this situation could be considered very similar.
- "It's offensive to everyone no matter what."
it is an offense to everyone, but even more so to a specific group of individuals. you confirmed this in your opening statement by stating that it means "ignorant" - which while incorrect is often assumed by word association. calling an entire country ignorant is pretty ignorant. calling a single person ignorant is just being rude. i've called several people on several occasions ignorant because i have a tendency to be rude in order to stress a point, but i've never gone out of my way to create a new word in order to directly abuse a specific stereotype, region, culture, etc. several people have and that can still be seen today, but many people live in a pretty safe place now with laws and governing to protect against pure hatred and the idea of genocide so those words have little meaning. an example would be calling someone a noob. if there was a hunt to kill noobs in real life that would endanger their lives constantly then that would be treated with much more severe action. so far noobs are only killed virtually.
Now, I know you and every other SJW can't accept when your word is not fact, but language is not a solid thing. It's always changing, and varies depending on where you go (even if it's the same language). In Japan, for example, the term "baka" (a word I hope everyone here has heard at least once) is generally light-hearted and not really that insulting. But, if you go to specific regions, it becomes a VERY serious insult.
baka has never been used to demean an entire race. japan has a culture that is pretty old and in some areas stands true to tradition and honor. dishonoring someone by calling them stupid is a serious offense because they hold to their old traditions and belief - not because they were one time enslaved and forced to withstand torture while being called a name that wasnt their own for centuries. obviously in modern times certain parts of japan have grown to become places of technological advancement - which that in itself is a slap to the face of old traditions alone. the younger modern generation taking tradition and honor for granted is why baka is not offensive in certain areas. why you think that baka can compare to the "N" word i have no clue and i wish someone who does stand by old traditions from japan would and could confirm this for me, but most of them are still living in rural towns working hard to continue their way of life.
In America, the N word isn't always something people freak out about. In a liberal city, yeah. But down south, not in a major city, people throw the word around and don't care (actually, the same applies everywhere. Liberal cities will freak out, people in small towns or in the country don't give a damn).
the n word isnt an insult to modern day black people because most modern day black people are from families that have either forgotten what it means to be a slave or never were slaves. it's an insult to some of their ancestors and to all enslaved africans. the people the "N" word actually affects today is few and far between - that doesnt mean it is now suddenly a great word to use in a social setting.
I still call him by his birth name, and I use the word fa___t around him all the time, even they use the word... you know how much he or his husband care?
i dont know - you should ask them. they're your family after all. why would you want to hurt your family by insulting them? comparing your family to the broad spectrum is a bit silly.
And, please, stop using the word "oppressing." It doesn't mean what you think it does.
op·pres·sive [əˈpresiv] ADJECTIVE
unjustly inflicting hardship and constraint, especially on a minority or other subordinate group:
"an oppressive dictatorship"
synonyms: harsh · cruel · brutal · repressive · tyrannical · tyrannous · [more]
weighing heavily on the mind or spirits; causing depression or discomfort:
"a profound loneliness, an oppressive emptiness"
synonyms: overwhelming · overpowering · unbearable · [more]
(of weather) excessively hot and humid.
synonyms: muggy · close · heavy · hot · humid · sticky · [more]
seems to mean exactly what i thought it means
Dominick Destine2 votesSay someone does something to me that's kind of jerky. I call them the fa____t word, and I'm immediately considered a homophobe, get chat banned at minimum, and all that. When I say that word though, gay people have nothing to do with it. It's just a word I used growing up to kind of call someone an asshat without being vulgar -- but that doesn't matter to an SJW. So, now I can't use that word, because it's "hate speech" and offends people who live for vanity. I say it in Discord all the fucking time, and no one bats an eye, but I am VERY apprehensive about using it in game. All it takes is one report, and I'm done with the game.
This.
Finally I see someone speaking out against Riot's Draconian System [I.e. leftist/feminist style authoritarianism]. There is no need for that, in S1 and S2, prior to the implementation of The Draconian System.... League of Legends was not in some sort of "problem" , it was way better (Socially wise) than it is now. Right now I barely even talk to my teammates because I know for a fact that if I say anything that is even remotely considered "offensive" I could be instantly permabanned.
The SJW style is that context doesn't matter, it's all about "Feelz before Realz". That's a horrid system to have and I hope Riot will remove it someday.
TyrekGoldenspear3 voteswithout being vulgar
Are you bloody serious? The fa___t word is vulgar and meant to be derogatory.
Why don't you tell me why you feel it's necessary to use words like this in the first place? If it doesn't mean anything to you why not use different words?
Niyumi1 votesNo, it's not vulgar or meant to be derogatory. It existed as a word LONG before SJWs started preening in front of everyone.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesI am aware. Surely someone who boasts of their education is aware that the meanings of words change over time, thanks to history and the like.
Niyumi1 votesWhen one small but EXTREMELY vocal portion of society says a word is bad, sorry, that doesn't mean much.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesSorry mate, but you need to hit your books again if you think it's a small portion of society.
Either that or start hanging around different people so you have a bigger picture of society.
Niyumi2 votesSJWs are a very small portion of society, sorry.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesCan't call people who believe in decency/standards for communication SWJs just to attempt to shame them out of their beliefs and win the argument, sorry.
You haven't seen a real SJW if you think that my statements equal that of SJWs.
Sorin Alucard2 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-03-30T10:52:10.187+0000)
it's not because you used it - it's how it's used.
the N word would be perfectly fine if it wasnt for how it has been used.
you need to educate yourself better.
Nah. He offered a counter opinion with full understanding. Its just not a popular, politically correct viewpoint.
Chønklord2 votes"You're not entitled to your opinion; you're entitled to your informed opinion. There is never any excuse for ignorance".
A racial slur is a racial slur, is a racial slur. It was coined to be derogatory toward African-Americans, primarily during the Civil War era and earlier, when there was an abundance of slave trafficking, etc.
Therefore, according to the literal definition and understanding of the word, it is a derogatory word used to demean and belittle people of color.
There is no alternative opinion that magically makes the word un-derogatory. Now, some people may not be offended by it, and some people may be offended by it; however, it is not something to be used in everyday language, regardless. The majority of any civilized society you might be a part of agrees this is so, and that is why Riot for instance, has made it clear that it is not acceptable language period. Just because from a subjective biased viewpoint you might not find it offensive, doesn't mean it isn't objectively offensive.
Dominick Destine2 votes[{quoted}](name=Bôôsted Bonobo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-30T14:18:40.585+0000)
A racial slur is a racial slur, is a racial slur.
Except that's not how that works, it's called context.
But even if we took your atrocious argument as truth; For what reason do black people use the term amongst themselves? by your logic they're all guilty of "Hatred" or so-called "Hate speech" and should be punished. I see no logic there, the reality is that words do not matter, what matters is the intent (I.e. context) behind the words.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesat least i can agree with this even though we usually have disagreements from time to time.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesit's not a matter of political correctness.
being politically correct means understanding international law and the cultures of the world to the point that you try to not say anything that would cause a war to outbreak or a needless argument based on differences in belief religion and culture.
this has nothing to do with being or not being politically correct.
this is just pure ignorance due to the fact that the person i replied to has no understanding of their own language or the history of language or for that matter the point of communicating and is using that misunderstanding as a way to link unrelated things - vanity and the reaction to slurs - to try and support their own personal use of slurs as commonplace language with no meaning.
the person i replied to even admitted that they used it as a way to demean others. sure he/she might not have known what it meant to be a homosexual, but they were using the word to oppress another person which is the whole point as to why the word isnt supposed to be used.
it's fine that he "grew up without knowing what a word meant". however that's not a valid excuse for using the word after learning its meaning when the word is offensive. I also dont buy that he didnt know what the word meant. he knew that it was used to oppress others. to harass others. to demean and demoralize others. simply because they were being "asshats". it's not about wishing doom on all of the homosexuals in the world. it's about putting down another human being because they're different.
there are a lot of people both gay and straight that dont understand this point. there are a lot of black people who dont understand the reason why the N word causes so much strife in their elders and many of those people affected by it are sadly not with us anymore and have passed on without properly explaining it to their descendants - so yes people do make up dumb arguments over it, but that's both sides and it's all due to ignorance plain and simple.
this is not a political matter. it is a social matter.
if a englishman calls his cigarette a "%%%" and then is forced to apologize for it by an american because an american doesnt recognize the use of the word then that's political correctness.
if an englishman calls another man a "%%%" then that's harassment and the englishman needs to apologize for harassing regardless of politics.
how is that so hard to comprehend?
Sorin Alucard2 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=0002000000010001,timestamp=2017-03-30T14:44:32.001+0000)
it's not a matter of political correctness.
being politically correct means understanding international law and the cultures of the world to the point that you try to not say anything that would cause a war to outbreak or a needless argument based on differences in belief religion and culture.
this has nothing to do with being or not being politically correct.
Except it does. "the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
Pejorative words are socially contextual and in a socially diverse culture setting a language bar is nigh impossible to hold.
this is just pure ignorance due to the fact that the person i replied to has no understanding of their own language or the history of language or for that matter the point of communicating and is using that misunderstanding as a way to link unrelated things - vanity and the reaction to slurs - to try and support their own personal use of slurs as commonplace language with no meaning.
the person i replied to even admitted that they used it as a way to demean others. sure he/she might not have known what it meant to be a homosexual, but they were using the word to oppress another person which is the whole point as to why the word isnt supposed to be used.
The person you replied to hasn't nothing to do with how you feel personally about word usage, even if said person purposely did it in poor taste. You're offended by the nature of the insult though, not the person's insulting attitude.
it's fine that he "grew up without knowing what a word meant". however that's not a valid excuse for using the word after learning its meaning when the word is offensive. I also dont buy that he didnt know what the word meant. he knew that it was used to oppress others. to harass others. to demean and demoralize others. simply because they were being "asshats". it's not about wishing doom on all of the homosexuals in the world. it's about putting down another human being because they're different.
there are a lot of people both gay and straight that dont understand this point. there are a lot of black people who dont understand the reason why the N word causes so much strife in their elders and many of those people affected by it are sadly not with us anymore and have passed on without properly explaining it to their descendants - so yes people do make up dumb arguments over it, but that's both sides and it's all due to ignorance plain and simple.
Once again, this varies individual to individual and I'm telling you for YOUR sake you are wasting energy on being upset over the past and over what you view to be inexcusable ignorance. If tomorrow everyone you knew no matter skin color starting replacing the "n" word with "dude" and you were the only one still mad about it, what position are you in? (Hypothetical)
Some people are offended by things like "I don't trust what the government says about 9/11" or "Kim Kardashian is a wonderful, caring, selfless lady."
Some people get offended if you call them African-American. Some people get offended if you call them black. Some people get offended if you call them white!
this is not a political matter. it is a social matter.
if a englishman calls his cigarette a "%%%" and then is forced to apologize for it by an american because an american doesnt recognize the use of the word then that's political correctness.
if an englishman calls another man a "%%%" then that's harassment and the englishman needs to apologize for harassing regardless of politics.
how is that so hard to comprehend?
So. In this context, a man from another country, another social culture, should bend over backwards and take the belittling of the American because he used a word thats offensive on the other side of the world? In a context that had nothing to do with insults? So the American has the right to berate, then claim harassment, AND claim superior linguistic understanding? You're lost in the anger sauce my friend IMO "%%%" refers to a person that would screw you over. Where I come from, the context of insult is the same if you're gay or not. It can also mean "pussy" or "wussy" if you prefer. It just depends. I, Sorin, didn't make these meanings that I grew up around, they were just there, just like I had nothing to do with the word Gay not meaning happy anymore (meet the flintstones anyone?) Im just sayin fam, calm the crusade.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesyour first point holds no ground when words are used in the same way (as an insult) with the same language (english). only to words that are used in different ways (a last name vs an insult) or from different languages (britain english and american english). that is because political correctness is used to prevent a needless misunderstanding. there is no misunderstanding here. the use of the word is clear.
im not actually offended by anything involving this post. my comments are more or less that of a teacher or a guidance counselor offering advice. i understand that difference of opinion is possible, but this is something that is pretty clear and easy to understand when the person who does not understand it takes a moment to actually consider what is being said. even you should take a second to reread what you posted.
Except it does. "the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
often considered taken to extremes is extra wording so lets get rid of that. it simply means that some people thing political correctness is overused.
"the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
we're talking about expression here.
"the avoidance of forms of expression that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
now who would need to perceive something?
Definition of perceive perceived; perceiving
transitive verb
1
a : **to attain awareness or understanding of **
b : to regard as being such
2
: to become aware of through the senses; especially : see, observe
someone who doesnt understand the meaning of a word.
**Pejorative words are socially contextual and in a socially diverse culture setting a language bar is nigh impossible to hold. **
once again this would only work in a scenario where one person does not understand the purpose or usage of the word.
the only time that the case you've presented is valid is if the word is not understood and someone becomes angered by it and demands an apology. political correctness would be to apologize and then refrain from using the word in order to avoid upsetting others in a similar matter. any other time it's just an insult.
in regards to your hypothetical question - if everyone started using the N word tomorrow i would feel appalled and disgusted and wonder to myself why more people dont stand up for their enslaved african ancestors. i would assume it's because no one bothered to remember them and their hardships and that their entire participation in history was being taken for granted. i would ask my friends family etc. what brought about the change and then would go on refusing to use the word out of respect for those that were mistreated. i cant change what other people do i can only educate them on why the word has been considered taboo for so long. if there comes a day when it's no longer considered taboo and the pain is forgotten then that's out of my control and i'll likely be long gone before that time comes. the 60's which was brought up earlier during this discussion weren't that long ago. there are still people who were alive back then alive today. why should i add to their strife and pain just because of someone trying to turn the word into a fad?
conspiracy theories are detrimental to modern society. it's understandable why some people would be offended about it. that however was a single time in history that lasted for roughly 7 hours. we're talking about words that have been used for hundreds of years as a way to harm and oppress others.
i dont understand the kim kardashian one unless you meant her father caitlyn jenner. in which case some people are homophobic and against transgender operations. im not sure what that has to do with using an offensive slur.
africans get offended if you call them african american because they're not american - that's completely reasonable. the only true african americans are african immigrants. calling someone black or white is offensive because you're referring to a person based on their skin color and not their nationality or name. - while this is a bit over the top it is understandable why someone would be offended. it'd be the same as calling out to someone and going "HEY FAT LADY!"
no. you completely misunderstood my example and i hope it wasnt on purpose as a way to try to further your point because that would be a petty thing to do. i'll explain in much greater detail one more time.
my example
if an englishman calls his cigarette a "%%%" and then is forced to apologize for it by an american because an american doesnt recognize the use of the word then that's political correctness.
if an englishman calls another man a "%%%" then that's harassment and the englishman needs to apologize for harassing regardless of politics.
your comprehension of my example
So. In this context, a man from another country, another social culture, should bend over backwards and take the belittling of the American because he used a word thats offensive on the other side of the world? In a context that had nothing to do with insults? So the American has the right to berate, then claim harassment, AND claim superior linguistic understanding? You're lost in the anger sauce my friend
so if we look at your comprehension of my example. we can clearly see that the only person who might be "lost in the anger sauce" is you. not saying you are, but as stated above i would like to reiterate that i am not upset as the gravity of the matter does not affect me and you seem quite confrontational over my thoughts on the subject.
the american overhears the english man and believes that the english man used the word inappropriately as a slur
i did not say he should or should not bend over backwards. whether or not the english man apologizes or the american apologizes that is not my place to say. this is simply an example of a misunderstanding between cultures. personally i dont think the english man should have to apologize since the american is the person exhibiting poor political correctness due to their inability to comprehend.
the second example does not state any particular person as a recipient of the slur. the point of using the english man as an example again is to show and compare the difference in connotation when using a word. in the first example "%%%" meant cigarette. in the second example however "%%%" was just a slur use to offend someone. i didnt use the american the second time because regardless of country language or other limiting factor if someone uses a word as a direct insult then that's harassment. and yes the englishman should be reprimanded for calling someone a "%%%" regardless of how many cigarettes he has smoked in his possession.
IMO "%%%"** refers to a person that would screw you over**. Where I come from, the context of insult is the same if you're gay or not. It can also mean "pussy" or "wussy" if you prefer. It just depends. I, Sorin, didn't make these meanings that I grew up around, they were just there, just like I had nothing to do with the word Gay not meaning happy anymore (meet the flintstones anyone?)
if that's you opinion then you only further prove my point that using the word is wrong. you fail to realize that it's not about how much of an insult the word is or who it insults. it's about THE FACT THAT IT IS AN INSULT. no one cares who you're insulting or why you're insulting them.
no one complains about the word gay because gay was never used to oppress a specific part of society. sometimes it's used to oppress certain individuals from time to time, but they share very little in common and are not defined by the word. gay still means happy and is an old old old word.
Im just sayin fam, calm the crusade.
this is not a "crusade" and i dont appreciate it being called a crusade as if that's something to be ashamed of. that type of language is exactly why certain words are given negative connotations in the first place.
if anything you calling my informative posts a crusade is pretty much the only thing that has offended me because it's the only thing that personally affects me. consider your use of words next time.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sorin Alucard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mmoQBAxK,comment-id=00020000000100010000,timestamp=2017-03-30T15:07:35.191+0000)
Except it does. "the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
Pejorative words are socially contextual and in a socially diverse culture setting a language bar is nigh impossible to hold.
The person you replied to hasn't nothing to do with how you feel personally about word usage, even if said person purposely did it in poor taste. You're offended by the nature of the insult though, not the person's insulting attitude.
Once again, this varies individual to individual and I'm telling you for YOUR sake you are wasting energy on being upset over the past and over what you view to be inexcusable ignorance. If tomorrow everyone you knew no matter skin color starting replacing the "n" word with "dude" and you were the only one still mad about it, what position are you in? (Hypothetical)
Some people are offended by things like "I don't trust what the government says about 9/11" or "Kim Kardashian is a wonderful, caring, selfless lady."
Some people get offended if you call them African-American. Some people get offended if you call them black. Some people get offended if you call them white!
So. In this context, a man from another country, another social culture, should bend over backwards and take the belittling of the American because he used a word thats offensive on the other side of the world? In a context that had nothing to do with insults? So the American has the right to berate, then claim harassment, AND claim superior linguistic understanding? You're lost in the anger sauce my friend IMO "%%%" refers to a person that would screw you over. Where I come from, the context of insult is the same if you're gay or not. It can also mean "pussy" or "wussy" if you prefer. It just depends. I, Sorin, didn't make these meanings that I grew up around, they were just there, just like I had nothing to do with the word Gay not meaning happy anymore (meet the flintstones anyone?) Im just sayin fam, calm the crusade.
This man is a hero.
deathgod51 votesThey are quite strict on hate speech, therefore I think you are having a bad luck streak. I have seen no more hate than the usual amount of racist I meet.
Chønklord1 votesDepending on the time of day I play (in NA servers), sometimes you get chill people and then around either midday/evening, or really early in the AM, you get spurts of egotistical, immature raging griefers that either A) give up at the first hurdle, B) rage at you for what you picked, what you bought, what your spells are, how you're laning, everything, C) just start harassing people non stop over every single little thing, or D) all of the above.
And the sad part is, when you try to reason with these types of people and help them understand that they shouldn't be having the shit attitude they have, they literally do not care.
I haven't seen any hardcore racism or hate speech though.
DrCyanide1 votesNope, can't say I see it that often outside of the PB&M boards
Raoul1 voteshmmm nope, cant say I encountered even a singel one this whole year...
Dominick Destine1 votesNope.
Telephone Booth1 votesMeh. I haven't noticed any more than usual. Could be cuz or spring break kids being on more now.
Baka Red1 votesI have practically never seen such talking in the games I have played. I guess it could be because I do not have all-chat open. (I know I am of the type that lets talk affect my playing, so I have never opened it. I won't start flaming or anything, it is just that my mechanics and decisions suffer if I get agitated.) It could also be be a regional thing to some extent; some parts of the world might have more polite people than others, even though every part certainly has more than it's share of baddies.
Anyways, although positive talking happens in all-chat occasionally(?), I believe all-chat has the most of trash talk too, and thrash talk has tendency to escalate to worse. Therefore I suggest you to consider not using all-chat as a remedy to all that rubbish. At least I personally can play in relatively relaxed and stress free way without it.