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In light of new circumstances, Riot should reconsider their position on banned accounts.

Hoenheim777··1 votes·1,527 views

Riot finally added a feature to just outright mute chat, seems like they are finally realizing that chat is just a headache for some players. I also heard that they are attempting to convince players that quit the game to come back via emails that promise rewards for returning to the game. This tells me that they are looking for ways to get people back into the game. Since Riot wants people to come back to the game and agree that chat is not invaluable for some people who play the game I think they should reconsider their position on banned accounts. I got permabanned almost a year ago and while I still think their attempts at policing chat are poorly handled, I also miss the game. I would come back to the game if my account was unbanned and I would not mind at all if chat "privileges" were completely stripped from my account as they were always a detriment to the game for me personally. As of right now though, the thought of buying or grinding out all the champs and skins I used to have disgusts me. I will not support Riot in any way or fashion while they keep my hard work and commitment to the game under lock and key. Just wanted to get this idea out there and remind Riot that there is an untapped player-base that they could easily reach out to while still keeping their current player base safe from their "toxicity".

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GatekeeperTDS8 votes

The "mute ally chat" feature is a toggle. I can be turned on and off at will, and those who reach permaban level are unfortunately the type of people who will toggle it on and off and on and off just to flame their team.

Mute features, no matter what form they take, are not a bandaid to the problem.

As people here have tried to explain to OPs on several different threads today, this is a team game. If you can't use the features to communicate properly with your team, then perhaps playing a game of this nature is not in your best interest.

Hoenheim7771 votes

"I would not mind at all if chat "privileges" were completely stripped from my account as they were always a detriment to the game for me personally" - One of the 9 sentences in the post.

They are admitting that some people would rather not have chat at all. What if some people don't want to participate in chat and some people cant participate in chat. There would be no way to tell the difference.

Good to see that people in these boards still don't fully read posts before commenting/downvoting and still regurgitate the same talking points ad nauseum in an attempt to shut down any and all discussion.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

If you don't want to participate in chat, now there are even MORE options to assist you in your conquest.

You can mute individuals, you can mute all opponents, now you can mute all allies. You also have this ace up your sleeve - self-control.

regurgitate the same talking points ad nauseum

And you and many others like you keep regurgitating the same talking point in your OPs, expecting different results. "Why don't they do permanent chat bans." Because they tried that, and it backfired. And (surprise surprise) they want to foster communication, not hinder it, because it's a team game.

Look, I know it's frustrating when you put out ideas and they don't get traction, but these aren't new ideas. They're all variations of "i got punished because people were flaming me, and why not just shut off my chat instead." You're going to get a few people that agree with you, but not many.

Hoenheim7771 votes

The feature to mute your team is new. Signaling a new found acceptance that some people not only find chat to be unnecessary but also detrimental to their experience. In no way does this foster communication; it gives people the option to not communicate at all, ever.

They are also attempting to convince players to come back to the game. I am saying this could get some people to come back to the game which is apparently something they want. It would also be at no detriment to the current players as they would not even be able to tell the difference between an unbanned account and a normal one that just perma mutes chat.

Because of these new circumstances the argument is stronger than ever and has newfound ground based on what Riot themselves is doing and publicly stating. I am not saying they are new ideas, they are ideas that should be reconsidered in light of new circumstances. This is the title of the post fyi.

If you and everybody else in this board want to keep agreeing with each other and retyping the same arguments over and over again at least update them to be congruent with what is apparently currently happening in the game. This new feature is not fostering communication in any way and every argument around that mantra is now null.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

Riot is not trying to attract permabanned players back to the game, no matter how much you insist.

Hoenheim7771 votes

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GatekeeperTDS2 votes

I'm not required to agree with you.

AeroWaffle2 votes

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The feature to mute your team is new. Signaling a new found acceptance that some people not only find chat to be unnecessary but also detrimental to their experience. In no way does this foster communication; it gives people the option to not communicate at all, ever.

"/mute all" existed long before this addition. You could also just manually mute each person through the tab menu as well. This is a shortcut.

They are also attempting to convince players to come back to the game. I am saying this could get some people to come back to the game which is apparently something they want. It would also be at no detriment to the current players as they would not even be able to tell the difference between an unbanned account and a normal one that just perma mutes chat.

Every game company tries to get players that quit to come back. Riot is no different.

Because of these new circumstances the argument is stronger than ever and has newfound ground based on what Riot themselves is doing and publicly stating. I am not saying they are new ideas, they are ideas that should be reconsidered in light of new circumstances. This is the title of the post fyi.

But these are not new circumstances that change what you're capable of doing while you're in the game. Previously you had the capability to mute everyone, now you can do it through a toggle instead of typing it in chat. What you type in chat is your choice and your responsibility.

If you and everybody else in this board want to keep agreeing with each other and retyping the same arguments over and over again at least update them to be congruent with what is apparently currently happening in the game. This new feature is not fostering communication in any way and every argument around that mantra is now null.

As stated, you had the capability to mute all along.

AeroWaffle3 votes

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"I would not mind at all if chat "privileges" were completely stripped from my account as they were always a detriment to the game for me personally" - One of the 9 sentences in the post.

They are admitting that some people would rather not have chat at all. What if some people don't want to participate in chat and some people cant participate in chat. There would be no way to tell the difference.

Good to see that people in these boards still don't fully read posts before commenting/downvoting and still regurgitate the same talking points ad nauseum in an attempt to shut down any and all discussion.

Having the toggle is not "stripping" you of your chat privileges. That implies that you would no longer be capable of chat even if you wanted to. The toggle is completely within your control thus people can toggle it off and end up saying things that get them banned just as surely as if they didn't have the toggle option at all.

Riot tried the endless chat restriction thing. But people who could not control themselves enough to avoid getting punished repeatably also didn't end up stopping their poor behavior just because they couldn't chat. All that changed was their methods of getting their opinion across by misbehaving through gameplay means.

So what's the point?

If someone is unable to control themselves despite many punishments and risk to their account there is little chance that they'll suddenly turn into a well-behaved player when they're unable to chat.

Kei1433 votes

I never understood why people need to unlock every champ. You'll mainly be playing with a pool of 30ish champions with like ... 4 of them you'll frequently play.

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