PSA for Judgemental people

Wayward Killjoy··1 votes·395 views

Newsflash league players! Unless you're gold rank, rank isn't a viable measure of someone's skill.

PSA: You leave an adc bot lane ALONE against two super safe yet super aggressive champs, they're going to do bad, especially when one can decommission your turret.

The more you know! You can't expect a person to CS when getting in range of minions cost them half their health due to aggression and point -> click abilities that do a lot of damage for no reason

DID YOU KNOW? That normal games have an elo and to be put with another player, they must be in your elo range. SO if you're SoloQing as a D5 and you're with a Bronze player, that either means you SUCK in normal elos, or that bronzie is a BADASS. (P.S. I'm the badass)

But wait a minute: League tracks your elo from the moment you hit 30, and if you're a piece of shit like I was for a year, then even if you suddenly become a gold level player by miracle or by practice, you're stuck in bronze till you can make a lucky break in your series, cause you have to hope the other 4 players aren't idiots, and if your elo is bad enough they're going to be, even if your skills have drastically past your elo, you're still tormented by bad players.

Finally, don't be a dick: People have good games, and they have bad games, before judging someone based on one game, try checking their match history, you might be surprised by the sheer amount of winning streaks they have or their exemplary performance in more than half their games.

Disclaimer: I don't claim to have the skill of a gold player, in fact I think I play like a monkey with a joystick sometimes, but it's no secret that most of my normal games end up being with high silver and gold players, sometimes low diamond.

P.S. Blaming your team mate for a losing game guarantees the loss. Trust me, I've been on both sides of the issue.

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disregardable3 votes

You think Tristana and Bard is an aggressive lane? Bro. You were Caitlyn. You outranged both of them by a lot. No reason you should've took any damage at all, let alone missed 75% of the cs.

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

Statistics and basic measurements don't accurately tell who will win and who will lose. A champion will lose to someone they hardcounter if there is a distinct difference in players.

My issue was the fact that I did, indeed screw up really bad in the early game due to bad positioning, and got killed. Afterwards, my support left me alone to go fight (and die) in the jungle with our jungler. In the meantime, I would do my best to stay under tower and CS, but due to her gold advantage because of my early game mistakes, all she had to do was click me twice, once for a bomb and once for an autoattack, and she'd remove a large chunk of my health. If the lane was pushed much past my turret then I had to deal with bard, who was always out of vision due to the absence of my support and wards, if I so much as walked past the line of a bush, I was assaulted by two champs playing hyper aggressively, and contrary to some people's beliefs it seems, Caitlyn's net has a long cd, I could only escape so much.

IF I tried to leave my turret, bard would circles around the jungle wall and ambush me between the bot lane turrets, in which Tristana would jump past my turret into safe range, and aided by bards slow, would kill me before I could get anywhere. If I stayed at my turret and remained relatively safe even with flash and net up, bard would ult the tower by edging bis ult right behind it. I couldn't go backwards or I'd get ulted, and I couldn't go forward cause there was a Tristana there, and I couldn't go into jungle because of a bard stun.

I had actually begun catching up in the game when we lost due to my team thinking it was smart to charge into a baron fight without vision when 3 of their 5 champs were fed. (I didn't follow them because I recognized it as suicide and warned them accordingly)

I admit, my playing that game was really bad compared to some of the games I've been playing the last few days, in fact it's been my worst game since i came back to league a week or two ago. BUT two of my teammates ragged on and insulted me afterwards based on one experience with me, and made biased arguments based on a statistically insignificant amount of data.

You can't judge anything based on one experience, simple science will tell you that.

AND PLEASE don't lump me under "people whining cause they just lost a game." I only make posts after several experiences. In many of my lost games this past little while I noticed a trend with people being judgemental about certain things that negatively effected the games outcome, ultimately coming into a loss.

disregardable2 votes

You weren't coming back with that little CS.

Also, have a guide on how to freeze a lane. It's not as possible later in the game if your team gets a tower advantage, but it'll still hold true in the first 10 minutes and will be even easier when your team is behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uthpZ_R_6_g

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k2rGihKE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-12T23:47:12.276+0000)

You weren't coming back with that little CS.

Also, have a guide on how to freeze a lane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uthpZ_R_6_g

Starting to come back and actually coming back are different things. I was STARTING to actually do damage and play better, but I didn't get very far before they rushed baron.

Thanks for the link btw, I've already watched it. I didn't have room to do it mechanically though, which is why I left bot lane. Keep in mind lane freezing is much easier in solo lanes than bot lanes, and is much harder if you end up being a solo lane against a duo lane.

Cait may have a lot of range, but she has few options for escaping once net and flash are blown. With my experiences with Caitlyn, part of her balance includes her being easily killable of she's unable to keep that distance, and tristanas jump is of much longer range than 90 caliber net.

disregardable2 votes

No, it's just as easy to freeze in bottom lane. It's actually a little easier because you don't have to tank the minions. Get the minions just outside your turret, make sure they have more, only kill one when one of your creeps dies. That's all there is to it. What I'm saying is that you should've froze the lane to where you're standing under your turret so they can't dive you, but you can still hit the back of the wave. Caitlyn's range makes that really easy. The only problem with that is you need to be a little skilled to maintain it, because the enemy laner will easily break it if you mess it up. It is not your champion's fault that you lost that game. Caitlyn has every tool in the book to 1v2 that lane.

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k2rGihKE,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-13T00:00:33.659+0000)

No, it's just as easy to freeze in bottom lane. It's actually a little easier because you don't have to tank the minions. Get the minions just outside your turret, make sure they have more, only kill one when one of your creeps dies. That's all there is to it. What I'm saying is that you should've froze the lane to where you're standing under your turret so they can't dive you, but you can still hit the back of the wave. Caitlyn's range makes that really easy. The only problem with that is you need to be a little skilled to maintain it, because the enemy laner will easily break it if you mess it up. It is not your champion's fault that you lost that game. Caitlyn has every tool in the book to 1v2 that lane.

I guess you didnt see the part where I said they constantly killed me while I was under my turret because they were ahead.

And the reason in say it's not easier is because you have three uncontrollable variables when freezing bot lane (the other players) vs the single variable in solo laners (The opponent)

EDIT: At nowhere did I blame the champion, I simply stated a fact. If you are full health and can cross the distance between you and Caitlyn with ease (A.K.A. Tristana W) then Caitlyn loses a lot of her power, which is based on having long range. Their team had the tools to cross the distance fairly easily, and since I was left alone by my support, I found it difficult defending myself against two players at once, again, one of which DISABLED MY TURRET to get me killed.

Sona Ping2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doomy Prince,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k2rGihKE,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-12-12T23:10:42.255+0000)

"Newsflash league players! Unless you're gold rank, rank isn't a viable measure of someone's skill." "Unless you're gold rank"

>"or that bronzie is a BADASS. (P.S. I'm the badass)"

"even if you suddenly become a gold level player by miracle or by practice, you're stuck in bronze till you can make a lucky break in your series, cause you have to hope the other 4 players aren't idiots, and if your elo is bad enough they're going to be, even if your skills have drastically past your elo, you're still tormented by bad players."

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

"I think I play like a monkey with a joystick"

Sona Ping1 votes

Alright; That's been retracted.

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

According to my game history, I've been consistently one of the better players in my games, if not best in a small portion of my victories. That's why I called myself a badass. Don't take a primates pride ;3; I'm a badass monkey.

Awkward Couch1 votes

While you may be one of the people with the better KDA in the games you are playing, what are ou doing with that KDA? Did you get a double down bot (since you seem to be playing a lot of ADC)? If you did great! But then the question becomes what do you do with that lead. Your lane may get ahead, but did you go mid to help mid get them ahead? You may stomp your lane, but if you aren't getting the rest of your team ahead, you aren't increasing your chances of winning by as much as you can be.

There are going to be games when someone on your team throws, that's part of playing the game. You have to be critical of your own gameplay. Record your games and point out every mistake you made. Look for points where you could have rotated and got other lanes ahead. No one plays perfect games, not even Faker.

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Awkward Couch,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k2rGihKE,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2015-12-13T08:14:53.826+0000)

While you may be one of the people with the better KDA in the games you are playing, what are ou doing with that KDA? Did you get a double down bot (since you seem to be playing a lot of ADC)? If you did great! But then the question becomes what do you do with that lead. Your lane may get ahead, but did you go mid to help mid get them ahead? You may stomp your lane, but if you aren't getting the rest of your team ahead, you aren't increasing your chances of winning by as much as you can be.

There are going to be games when someone on your team throws, that's part of playing the game. You have to be critical of your own gameplay. Record your games and point out every mistake you made. Look for points where you could have rotated and got other lanes ahead. No one plays perfect games, not even Faker.

Okay last response I am replying to that's about my playing rather than being on topic for the original post.

  1. I don't think I play perfect games, I IMMEDIATELY own up to mistakes, apologize to my team, and try to fix things when I do.

  2. When I'm ahead I put pressure on drag and bottom lane while roaming when the enemy adc is down, but not as to do much I fall behind in cs or experience

  3. I made a post about how it's bad to be negative and judgemental in games and susddenly everyone is giving me their opinion on my skill level because I happened to lose a game before I posted this.

I'm tired of this community being so negative. Part of the issue with many Bronze players is they fall into this lot of self loathing and negativity. Anything you say to anybody in this game, from bronze to gold cause I've played with all sorts, will at one point be taken negatively. I complimented an enemy sona on her skills and got flamed for an entire game. I suggest an item that will hard counter a champion and I get flamed for being stupid? (and yes, Zhonyas counters zed ;A;)

Hunts and Dips1 votes

You're not good until you hit diamond 1 btw, not friggin gold Luh mao

Wayward Killjoy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frig Off Lahey,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k2rGihKE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-12-12T23:55:59.825+0000)

You're not good until you hit diamond 1 btw, not friggin gold Luh mao

I didn't say good did I? I said rank isn't reliable until then. I've seen plenty of silver players that acted like they were from BV in games, and some people on BV games that I wondered if they were actually bronze.

Plus you have that group of people on smurfs that manipulate their elos to troll.

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