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Why such a harsh ban?

BurstDmg··2 votes·1,840 views

I can understand a chat ban, but a 14 day suspension? I admit that Ive given up on my team for a myriad of reason a few times...but with my record in B5 you can tell that I don't do this often....so I'm wondering why I got a 14 day suspension instead of a chat ban? I'll post the text I was sent below.....I don't see much here other than some frustration at teammates for lack of teamwork and some insults using vulgarity...but its not like I am anywhere close to the verbal abuse I see practically every match in B5...so why such a harsh punishment? Is it because One time I said I was going to feed ? That happened once, and I gave 2 free kills away....but if you look at my record, I've given 2 free kils away one time total, so I'm confused. Two or three time I gave up on my team and went to another lane until the game was over because there was no teamsowrk, but I didnt afk or feed those game, I simple did my own thig...which is common in bronze....but considering my division, I still have a decent record, so it isn't a consistent thing..just 2 or 3 times in like 150 ranked matches.... Please help me understand.

Game 1 BurstDmg: 5 at blue BurstDmg: so much for teamworj WW BurstDmg: thanks for not helping kid BurstDmg: no illoai, dont help whne your mid laner leave your lane and I ping for help..just farm moron BurstDmg: farm will win it BurstDmg: fucking help graves BurstDmg: this graves isnt helping when I engage and stun BurstDmg: he justfarms when he could be fgetting gfed BurstDmg: died twice trying to et him fed and he just farms BurstDmg: then solo bot BurstDmg: Im out bro BurstDmg: 'you suck and only have 2 kill because of me BurstDmg: sure..at least you engage with me BurstDmg: we win top now BurstDmg: gj ww BurstDmg: u2 BurstDmg: go illaoi BurstDmg: gjk BurstDmg: no, dont..graves is the bad one..not you skarner BurstDmg: no BurstDmg: 4 mid BurstDmg: ww..help mid man BurstDmg: 4v2 mid...we're getting overpowered
BurstDmg: told you ww BurstDmg: we need teamwork plz BurstDmg: its over...me and Illaoi cant hold mid 2v4 BurstDmg: and we dont have teamwork from graves or ww BurstDmg: WW fukcing mid asswipe BurstDmg: Im done...WW and gravses threw when they made me and Illaoi hold mid the last 5 minutes vs 4 BurstDmg: no...your afk fucked us too BurstDmg: no, Imdone..win 4v5...Ive died aenough 2v4 mid BurstDmg: fuck you ww..I helped you top and you dont return the favor when we are 2v4 mid BurstDmg: Im done...ww and graves refuised to halp for like 55 minutes when me and illaoi were2v4 for a long time BurstDmg: no BurstDmg: its a loss....ff BurstDmg: probably not..Im a diamond smurf BurstDmg: Im done skarner...get it through your head BurstDmg: there..I helped..now Im done BurstDmg: from the start I died twice because I engaged and stunned and graves just farmed... BurstDmg: then went top and helped ww get some kills and take top BurstDmg: but then everyone made me and illaoi mid vs 2 without help and I died 5 times defending because of a lack of teamwork BurstDmg: yeah..Im tired of dying...Im justjungling from here until we lose BurstDmg: seriously BurstDmg: I havent had this many deaths in a long time BurstDmg: look at my record BurstDmg: sad thing is, I have the highest win percentage in this entire match BurstDmg: ^ BurstDmg: take it and I feed too BurstDmg: cait is 3-2 BurstDmg: not strong at all BurstDmg: if you want me, I'll be jungling until we lose....but I'll be minding my own business if you wa t to 5v4 them and win BurstDmg: plz end...my team lacks teamwork BurstDmg: graves wouldnt engage with me at bot and justfarmed and let me die twice.... BurstDmg: then I help ww get fed and take top, but graves, ww and skatrner make me and Illaoi mid vs 4 in a 2v4...no teamwork BurstDmg: Im done..said ti many times BurstDmg: plz end BurstDmg: oh, Im being called a %%%% and you want my help? BurstDmg: I think not BurstDmg: now Im done.,youre on your own BurstDmg: because nobody helped me and Illaoi at mid when was 2v4 and I died 5 times defennding BurstDmg: and because graves wouldnt engage with me and just let me die bot BurstDmg: and because ive been called %%%% and baby ands whiner...so gl BurstDmg: Im not BurstDmg: now I fee thanks to skarneer BurstDmg: freee kills BurstDmg: skarner stole blue from me and I warned him not to...so free kills BurstDmg: nop..its over...gg BurstDmg: 'fuck that BurstDmg: free ills bot lane BurstDmg: run..graves coming in for janitor duyt BurstDmg: skarners been calling me a %%%% for 10 mnutes but wants me to help...LOOL....think Im going to help after that>? BurstDmg: no, Im going to help you guys BurstDmg: I'll be mid..you know whatto do BurstDmg: the NA serversare the furthest serversrfom Australia, so youre not australian kid BurstDmg: I guarantee a losswont win.. BurstDmg: you have a 17 kill advantage, they are4v5 and winning? You guys better start working as a team BurstDmg: says the guy calling me a %%%% all match BurstDmg: graves alone bot BurstDmg: thhey going drag BurstDmg: much easier when I help BurstDmg: I got a double and 2 assists BurstDmg: yeah, I ks BurstDmg: Illoai and skarner have been verbally abusive, so I hope you benefit from my deaths BurstDmg: jax..be ateam player and stay with your team so they can win

Game 2 BurstDmg: Im serious///Im nt going bot....quinn go bot and I'll jungle BurstDmg: not going bot with someone who starts insulting me before the match even starts BurstDmg: and I did nothing to heer....so play 4v5 or someone else go bot BurstDmg: no..Im either cdone and you can play 4v5, or someone else go bot BurstDmg: naut, go bot and I'll top or I'll justjungle all match until we can ff BurstDmg: you saw cait..insults all prematchj BurstDmg: now Im afking if you guys keep it up BurstDmg: cait was verbally abusive to me in prematch so Im not supping for her BurstDmg: I have the highest win percentage on both teams tho ekko BurstDmg: ok, Im done..they can 4v5 until we ff BurstDmg: free win..why bash me ekko? BurstDmg: and caits verbally abusive me isnt childish? BurstDmg: look at my recod..I know how to win BurstDmg: no, I wont...and Im making sure of that because I dont deserve to be verbally abused before the match even starts BurstDmg: then why even go top? If Im reported I may as well jungle until its over BurstDmg: I'll take the lane Naut fded...np BurstDmg: so am I to expect no ganks all match? BurstDmg: quinn will only come for easy kills after I die? BurstDmg: thats cool....I tied to play but if I cant get cooperation from our jungler, no point in tying to win...I'll just jungle if she BurstDmg: neglects top all match BurstDmg: ty BurstDmg: so naut bails on me and leBlanc and he was full health... BurstDmg: this is over...we lack teamwork and cooperation.....Im done BurstDmg: you didnt see the abuse I took prematch ekko, so you shoudnt be talking BurstDmg: dude nothing BurstDmg: your a troll ..and internet bullly BurstDmg: then why are you puttint your 2 cents into someothing you know nothing about? BurstDmg: no, Im saying cait was verbally abusive so Im not supping for her...thats it BurstDmg: I didnt pin the loss on anyone but myself....when I said they can 4v5 if they want BurstDmg: but I did say they were4v5 because of the verbal abuse BurstDmg: the vebrbal from LB has been relentless too....so I wont even try BurstDmg: I'll jungle until its over...ggg BurstDmg: yeah, report me but not LB or cait for their verbal abuse BurstDmg: oh the oirony BurstDmg: I still havent gotten a gank all match BurstDmg: so my tam is also working against me BurstDmg: Im top...Im playing BurstDmg: not getting ganks, but I am getting abused BurstDmg: at least Ive been holding top...even if I havent gotten a gank in 24 minutes BurstDmg: and if you think Im the troll..LB has died more than anyone in the match BurstDmg: even more than me BurstDmg: mb...she is 1 death behind naut BurstDmg: 2-8 mid.....no wonder we lost BurstDmg: excuses BurstDmg: baddies make alot of them BurstDmg: quinns afk and Im the troll? BurstDmg: I have the highest win percentage on both teams

Game 3 BurstDmg: remember jinx, with my shield I can execute minions below 200 health to heal us BurstDmg: why dont you start farming for the cs advantage and just watch for the invade BurstDmg: I dont farm or take cs unless its to heal us...I average 32cs pe match on leona BurstDmg: fml BurstDmg: mb BurstDmg: sorry..I thougth blitz used his rocket grab already or I wouldnt have engaged there BurstDmg: so Xins going to neglect bot all match, or just when we ping for help? BurstDmg: fu xin..Im not doing drag until you repsond to our pings for help
BurstDmg: 10 mins in and not a singe; gank even though we pinged several times for one BurstDmg: xin camping top and neglecting bot BurstDmg: so Im done BurstDmg: gl..Im jungling the rest of the match BurstDmg: doesnt work jinx..xin is so focused on camping top you wont get a gank and they will win bot before xin ever steps in lane BurstDmg: too late xin..Im done BurstDmg: got me killed twice by not ganking BurstDmg: they are 4v5 now...xin refuses to gank even tho I pinged 12 times on 2 seperate occassions BurstDmg: sorry jinx..I accepted the loss already BurstDmg: Im done BurstDmg: they have double the kills and Im squishy because we needed help and xin wouldnt come BurstDmg: true brand BurstDmg: esp when you were already going mid instead of bot BurstDmg: nope BurstDmg: Im done//Im farming jungle so leavebuster doesnt penalize me and I'll deal with the reports instead BurstDmg: look at my record on Leona BurstDmg: panth, you'vew fed more than anyone in the match,,....report me? BurstDmg: its over...XIn camped top and didnt help mod or bot, so those lanes got fed.....and now the other team has double our killls BurstDmg: X9in lost this for us...dont blame me because I know a loss when I see it BurstDmg: IM DONE...dont you understand english? BurstDmg: XIn ignored bot when I pinged 2 seperate time to camp top BurstDmg: and ironically, panth had a dedicated jungler and still fed BurstDmg: no fucking way...you wouldnt go bot, so Im not either..you lost this for us by camping ONLY top and not helping mid or bot BurstDmg: yeah, but I expected teamwork through teh match...not neglected by the jungler BurstDmg: why not ff...you cant win without me and they areso fed we probably cant win even if I helped BurstDmg: nah...Ikm squishy..never got a fucking gank all match BurstDmg: there..i helped...now Im done BurstDmg: afk? BurstDmg: Im not feeding BurstDmg: Im done....I said I would be done if Xin didnt gank...and he still refused to gank..so play 4v5 BurstDmg: see? Im squishy because bot was neglected when we needed help BurstDmg: a gank...just 1,...may have gotten me an assist or two and gold needed to buy items...but it never came BurstDmg: ty for making us 4v5 and lose BurstDmg: yep BurstDmg: but I still win over 50%, and nobody in this match can say that but me

46 Comments

Gene Freakz5 votes

You talk way too much in game. Say something nice or not at all.

BurstDmg2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gene Freakz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUZbEj5z,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-21T22:50:38.740+0000)

You talk way too much in game. Say something nice or not at all.

you have only these 3 games to go by, but I am very encouraging in most of my games

Gene Freakz1 votes

Just be encouraging in all of your games and then you won't get punished.

BurstDmg1 votes

I try to be, but its tough when there are trolls deliberately trying to grief you...how do you keep your cool when this happens so often in bronze and you're trying to be competitive?

Gene Freakz1 votes

It's not just a lesson in league but a lesson in life. There's no need to get angry and let people get the best of you. Why be mad when you can be happy.

BurstDmg1 votes

Good point...cant control the trolls anyway, only my own actions

Zombiemaster3 votes

As of right now, there are 4 punishments for chat related offenses, and they are given out in this order:

1.) 10 game chat restriction 2.) 25 game chat restriction 3.) 14 day ban 4.) Permanent ban

The way it works is once you receive one punishment, your next offense will give you the next highest tier of punishment, regardless of how "minor" your offense may have been. It is also possible for Riot to escalate you straight to a 14 day or permanent ban, but Riot really only does this if they deem your case severe enough. Also, it is possible to lower your punishment level by one tier if you go 3 months without receiving any punishments.

So, with that in mind, have you received a a 25 game chat restriction in the past 3 months? If so, then that is why you received a 14 day ban this time around. The 14 day ban is the standard punishment after a 25 game chat restriction. If you haven't received one, then it's quite likely that Riot found that your case was severe enough to be escalated straight to a 14 day ban.

BurstDmg1 votes

I did get a 25 match chat ban like a month ago

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Then it's legit that you're suppose to get a 14 days suspension now. It takes about 3 months to drop a punishment tier, and apparently, you got too excited way too early to be talking crap.

Do note that if you still continue this behavior during the next 3 months, you'll be permaban, so watch what you say from now on.

BurstDmg2 votes

ok...thanks for the input!!! I'll be calmer when my ban is over

i hate tryhards3 votes

14 day suspension so that you don't call players in your team "morons". Learn to respect people, there is a person on the other side of the computer.

BurstDmg1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Firelord Ozai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUZbEj5z,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-02-22T02:10:42.668+0000)

14 day suspension so that you don't call players in your team "morons". Learn to respect people, there is a person on the other side of the computer.

If someone is intentionally feeding or intentionally not being a team player and cuasing a loss, why wouldnt I call them a moron? I post a lot of my videos on Youtube...watch some of them....watch the one about Lux I posted recently. You'll see that I treat my team with respect until I'm treated disrespectfully...the Lux video is a good example.....look at all the encouragement I give my team the first 15 minutes, then watch what happens after the first 15 minutes.....My Youtube name is the same as my summoner name: BurstDmg

BurstDmg2 votes

WOuld be nice if Riot included my teammates comments....

DrCyanide10 votes

Why? You're not judged on what they did, but how you reacted to it.

WreckIes2 votes

His reaction was reasonable.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

You aren't being judged based on your teammates comments; only what you say. Retaliation to provocation wit toxicity is still toxic behaviour.

If you have received a 14 day ban, then that is because you continued to display negative behaviour after the two previous punishments. I would be quite careful since their next step is to permanently ban your account.

Astôlfo2 votes

Why such a harsh ban harsh

"""""harsh"""""

PlsTouchMeGently2 votes

"I'm a diamond smurf" lmao

BurstDmg2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sang Noir,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUZbEj5z,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-02-21T23:06:43.017+0000)

"I'm a diamond smurf" lmao

OK, that was a lie...I'm a silver smurf...lol..but thats not why I was suspended

LeBraum James GG2 votes

"i'm a diamond smurf" - bronze5. ROFL. Aside from that, I'm so glad that you let these ignorant kids in bronze have everything they deserve. They need to start playing better and it takes people who have a sack to actually tell them what needs to happen. The rest of these kids who are idolizing a broken ban system are the kids who are playing like garbage game-in and game-out and don't want to even try to get better. Hopefully demoralizing these fools will get them to stop playing the game and go grow a pair.

Banzkarn2 votes

Banning people from a game for their chat in a game with a chat filter and the ability to ignore. Is flat out stupid in the first place. That being said. If you got a 14 day suspension for that I have no clue why Im not perma banned yet. You are downright cuddly compared to me when I get pissed off in a game.

BurstDmg1 votes

{quoted}

Banning people from a game for their chat in a game with a chat filter and the ability to ignore. Is flat out stupid in the first place. That being said. If you got a 14 day suspension for that I have no clue why Im not perma banned yet. You are downright cuddly compared to me when I get pissed off in a game.

Thats why Im wondering why the penalty was so harsh...what I wrote is nothing compared to what I see in 75% of my matches

LukeTheSheppy2 votes

"Look at my record on Leona"

>50% winrate, 2.33KDA

That's.....fucking painfully average. Also, you were rude to your teammates all match.

BurstDmg1 votes

{quoted}

"Look at my record on Leona"

>50% winrate, 2.33KDA

That's.....fucking painfully average. Also, you were rude to your teammates all match.

In B5, with the trolls who dont care if they wn or lose because they cant g lower than B5, its not a bad record. It was well above 60%, but with the trolls it keeps dropping. If you look me up on loloskill.net and look at each game you will see that 90% of my matches are scared as well abovew the average player...even my losses. Even recently I'm scoring 65%-99% better than average on Leona....so my record isnt completely about my gameplay, its about the teams play, and I can only do so much. But my record isnt the issue here

LukeTheSheppy3 votes

{quoted}

In B5, with the trolls who dont care if they wn or lose because they cant g lower than B5, its not a bad record. It was well above 60%, but with the trolls it keeps dropping. If you look me up on loloskill.net and look at each game you will see that 90% of my matches are scared as well abovew the average player...even my losses. Even recently I'm scoring 65%-99% better than average on Leona....so my record isnt completely about my gameplay, its about the teams play, and I can only do so much. But my record isnt the issue here

Back when I was in Bronze a year or two ago, my winrate with Leo was 82%.

BurstDmg1 votes

Thats awesome...I got help last week froma Diamond player and I see remarkable improvements! I doubt I can match your 82% win rate, but I plan on getting it up to over 70% by the end of the season

LukeTheSheppy2 votes

{quoted}

Thats awesome...I got help last week froma Diamond player and I see remarkable improvements! I doubt I can match your 82% win rate, but I plan on getting it up to over 70% by the end of the season

Good to hear! One problem: if you plan on doing that, you have to fix....this. I don't want you to lose your account. I know it sucks to have trolls in a game. You just have to look at it as a chance to learn more mechanics, and to practice those you've learned. If the game bothers you to the point of tilt, just step away after the game and Play some Super Smash Bros Melee.

BurstDmg1 votes

You have a point...I cant control what the trolls do, but I can control my own behavior...and no matter whatI say I wont influence the trolls anyway

Dominick Destine2 votes

Yeah you deserved it, I'm actually slightly surprised you didn't go perma.

You don't use profanity but you talk a lot of trash. A LOT.

FrankerX2 votes

yea yea the typical diamond smurf... who complains that we dont see what his team said. i wonder if riot will ever add a sentence at the top of the chatlogs saying something like "YOU GET BANNED FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR NOT FOR THE ONES OF YOUR TEAMMATE DUMBASS!"

BurstDmg1 votes

{quoted}

yea yea the typical diamond smurf... who complains that we dont see what his team said. i wonder if riot will ever add a sentence at the top of the chatlogs saying something like "YOU GET BANNED FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR NOT FOR THE ONES OF YOUR TEAMMATE DUMBASS!"

Now, is that language necessary to get your point across? Did you have to call me a dumbass in caps to make your point?

FrankerX1 votes

i didnt call you a dumbass. it was more in generall what riot should say for the lol effect. but sorry if i insulted you

BurstDmg1 votes

np, wasnt insulted..just trying to keep it clean and try to turn over a new leaf

Kei1431 votes

its harsh cos you were toxic and failed to change in the past 2 punishments.

btw, your next punishment is a permaban !

ToxicOrRito 1 votes

Annoying whiner plus keyboard diarrhea = easy ban

BurstDmg1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ToxicOrRito ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jUZbEj5z,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-02-22T04:42:06.035+0000)

Annoying whiner plus keyboard diarrhea = easy ban

Was the abuse necessary to make your point or could you have used a better choice of words?

BRBGTGBOWFLEX1 votes

Holy christ, why are you talking this much, play the damn game and shut up.

BurstDmg1 votes

I only talked that much because I gave up when Lux started trolling. Check out the match on my Youtube channel....My Youtube name is BurstDmg

The video will be obvious and give you alot more insight...I even bookmarked the times during the video that she was toxic so that all people have to do is click the time and it will go right to that part of the video!

BRBGTGBOWFLEX1 votes

I am not going to give youtube views to someone who is toxic. All of your words that you personally spoke served to escalate the conflict and lower the quality of the game by creating a sideshow. You were appropriately banned for this. Next time, hit the mute button and play the game. Or get permabanned, I am fine with that too.

No one is interested in "your side of the story" because the whole story itself would not exist if you just did not say anything. It would be one guy, rambling to no one for a bit, and then stopping. Because you kept responding, you created something other than the game to distract and annoy people with. Please, improve your behavior.

BurstDmg1 votes

Alright..thanks for the replies. I don't think I was too bad in the 3 games listed above. Ive seen much worse and watched those players continue to play matches without punishment. I know I wasnt a bright ball of sunshine, but the stuf I see in game is insanely worse. I posted a Youtube video yesterday about a Lux who was way worse and she apparently wasn't penalized...Riots penalty system is very flawed. Check out the Lux video and compare my behavior to hers and let me know what you think. My Youtube channel is called "BurstDmg". I'm not saying that because she was way worse that it justifies my comments, but I just dont understand why my penalty was so severe. The video that I posed of Lux is something that I have to deal with almost every match in bronze....and I'm not a bad player according to lolskill.net. As a matter of fact, I came on these forums like 2 weeks ago and a very helpful Diamond player who mains Leona support took like 2.5 hours of his time with me to give me advice, and since them most of my matches listed on lolskill.net say that I'm playing 60%-99% better than the average Leona player.....if only I could get out of bronze and into a division where people actually try to win instead ogf not caring either way because they cant drop any further :(

http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/NA/Burstdmg

Man In Sky1 votes

BurstDmg: probably not..Im a diamond smurf

Please uninstall. Thank you.

P.S. Never play this game again.

P.S.S. Thank you.

BurstDmg1 votes

COming from someone who has a 1.0 KDA, I'll overlook this, the way you overlooked how I said I was j/king about being diamond and was just a silver smurf...

Colgate Gator1 votes

Everytime you said "done" is one more nail in the coffin.

http://prntscr.com/a6zce5

BurstDmg1 votes

I had no clue that I mentioned "done" so often....I appreciate you pointing that out!

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