@Tantram Is this 14 day ban justified?

AnataBakka·2/16/2018, 5:04:23 PM·1 votes·693 views

First the chat logs: https://i.imgur.com/2rz2rEO.png https://imgur.com/2UJr53j.png https://imgur.com/q9uh6DS.png support answer https://imgur.com/khluB3Q.png

In case you need google translate: Partita 1 Euforico: ma Euforico: non aveva già flashato Euforico: diocane Euforico: eh lo stavo per scrivere Euforico: COSA Euforico: NON HA FATTO L'ANIMAZIONE DELL'ESPLOSIONE Euforico: ma Euforico: me lo spiegihi Euforico: come cazzo è sopravvissuto quel figlio di puttana Euforico: fosse facile a quella distanza Euforico: stavo solo cercando di rallentarla Euforico: per poi magari ucciderla Euforico: op Euforico: loro hanbno un jungler Euforico: vi9eni Euforico: beh si Euforico: ma solo io vedo robe nere volare ogni tanto? Euforico: porcamadonna ti posso sputare dall'altra parte e quel frocio bastardo mi stunna Euforico: minchia che nervi fa venire Euforico: quanti salti fa Euforico: diotroia Euforico: si Euforico: ciao Euforico: 2 km Euforico: le alzassero il cd di quello schifo Euforico: bella Euforico: quando muto la gente gioco meglio Euforico: in che senso Euforico: ah si annulla se ti mangio Euforico: mentre sta creando il campo Euforico: 2 Euforico: si ha oneshottato la torre Euforico: bella Euforico: counterplay Euforico: lo so Euforico: ma sulle torri mi sembra un pò eccessivo Euforico: procoidio Euforico: ma si leva dal cazzo quel frocio Euforico: c'è un luime dall'inizio Euforico: perchè ti sei sputato Euforico: se clicchi a terra si Euforico: no Euforico: sei stato tu Euforico: ora che spawni ti mangio Euforico: tu non cliccare niente Euforico: se ti mangio e camminiamo verso i nemici andiamo piùà veloci Euforico: per questo ti ho mangiato per chasare camille prima Euforico: però ti sei sputato Euforico: ma perchèp te ne sei andato Euforico: non dico la Euforico: ah dici al drago?

Here's my translation: Game 1 Euforico: but Euforico: didn't he already flash Euforico: goddog Euforico: eh i was going to write it Euforico: WHAT Euforico: IT DIDN'T DO THE ANIMATION OF THE ESPLOSION Euforico: but Euforico: can you explain it to me Euforico: how the fuck did he survive that son of a bitch Euforico: as if it had been easy at that distance Euforico: i was just trying to slow her Euforico: so then i could maybe kill her Euforico: op Euforico: they've got a jungler Euforico: come Euforico: well yes Euforico: but am i the only one seeing black things flying once in a while? Euforico: piggodmother i can spit you to the other side and that f*g bastard stuns me Euforico: fuck what nerves he gives me Euforico: how many jumps he's doing Euforico: godbitch Euforico: yes Euforico: see ya Euforico: 2 km Euforico: if they had increased the cd of that disgust Euforico: nice Euforico: when i mute people i play better Euforico: what do you mean Euforico: ah it cancels if i eat you Euforico: while he's creating the field Euforico: 2 Euforico: ofc he shotted the turret Euforico: nice Euforico: counterplay Euforico: i know Euforico: but to the turrets it seems a bit excessive Euforico: piggod Euforico: but will he move out of the way that f*g Euforico: there's a ward since the beginning Euforico: why did you spit yourself Euforico: if you click on the earth yes Euforico: no Euforico: it was you Euforico: now that you're spawning i'll eat you Euforico: you don't click anything Euforico: if i eat you and we walk towards the enemies we go faster Euforico: that's why i ate you for chasing camille previously Euforico: but you spit yourself Euforico: why did you go away Euforico: i don't mean there Euforico: ah you mean at the dragon?

Support: Ciao Evocatore, [5:30] Euforico (Tahm Kench): diocane [12:35] Euforico (Tahm Kench): come cazzo è sopravvissuto quel figlio di puttana [21:41] Euforico (Tahm Kench): porcamadonna ti posso sputare dall'altra parte e quel frocio bastardo mi stunna [23:56] Euforico (Tahm Kench): diotroia [37:18] Euforico (Tahm Kench): procoidio [37:44] Euforico (Tahm Kench): ma si leva dal cazzo quel frocio Se silenzi gli altri giocatori non significa questi non possano leggere quello che scrivi, a meno che loro non silenzino te. In ogni caos non fa alcuna differenza, queste frasi sono una violazione delle Condizioni d'Uso: https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/it/legal/termsofuse Inoltre in italiano a altre lingue o a chi tu possa scrivere non rappresenta una giustificazione. Questo utilizzo della chat non è tollerato e la sospensione di 14 giorni non verrà rimossa. Inoltre se ripeterai questi comportamenti potresti ricevere una sospensione permanente.

And my translation: Hello Summoner, [5:30] Euforico (Tahm Kench): godpig [12:35] Euforico (Tahm Kench): how the fuck did he survive that son of a bitch [21:41] Euforico (Tahm Kench): piggodmother i can spit you to the other side and that f*g bastard stuns me [23:56] Euforico (Tahm Kench): godbitch [37:18] Euforico (Tahm Kench): piggod [37:44] Euforico (Tahm Kench): but will he move out of the way that f*g If you silence the other players it doesn't mean these cannot see what you write, unless they silence you. In any case there's no difference, these phrases are a violation of the Terms of Use: https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/it/legal/termsofuse Also in italian or in other languages or at who you may be writing does not represent a justification. This use of the chat is not tolerable and the suspension of 14 days will not be removed. Also if you would repeat these behaviours you could receive a permanent suspension.

Why am i here: I'm not Euforico. I just speak for him because i've read a lot of player behaviour posts (most of Tantram ones) and i don't feel like these chat logs go in any situation i've seen on the boards. Most of these insults are directed toward the religion (it's an usual thing in italy and people don't hate you for it, unless they're a fanatic), and towards enemy players. These chat logs were written only in the team chat where Euforico was speaking with his friend (which isn't me). Now. Can people in the team feel insulted if you insult other people? Other than the supposing fact that they didn't understand anything Euforico was saying, and there was someone who kept telling him to speak in english (and he was probably the one who reported Euforico) and that Euforico muted his entire team other than his friend so he didn't go into any trouble (he had already gotten a 14 day ban and until now, for 3 months, he muted everyone to not rage), can one report another if they weren't the one getting insulted? The only thing, only, that had something to do with the team is "they've got a jungler". All the other insults to the enemy champions (which they didn't hear) are: religious, f*g and bastard. The only ones who might have gotten insulted are, fanatic religious people and gay people.

This post is the same thing i would do if it was an unjustified ban directed to me, so feel free to look at this ban as if it were mine. There was another friend that got banned for saying kys so he deserved it but i don't feel this one does.

If you feel this ban is justified i would like to ask if it had been in these situations: Let's say all the above was written directly in the friend's chat (not on the team's), that friend for some reason reported Euforico. Would he have gotten banned? I write "i hope that fucking enemy kills himself" in my team chat. Can i get banned? PS: I'm asking stuff here because i know player support is stubborn most of the times. I had a personal trouble with them and i needed to ask 5 different supports before i had my request resolved, while the first 4 told me "there's nothing wrong, i'll close this ticket now", and the 5th excused himself for the late resolve.

26 Comments

Jo0o2/16/2018, 5:19:02 PM9 votes

I think you're translating this as softly as possible.

The repeated use of "gay" as a noun makes me pretty sure that the better English translation of "frocio" would be closer to a slur. Additionally, all of the "piggod", "godbitch", "piggodmother" etc. all may not have a perfect English translation, but I don't think I'm out of line in assuming that this is extremely incendiary.

These logs are clearly meant to insult other players with as much vitriol as Euforico was capable of summoning. Banning them is the obvious reaction. If you aren't Euforico, I haven't the slightest idea why this is the wagon you want to hitch yourself to.

Rayjay Redfang2/16/2018, 5:13:07 PM7 votes

I translated "frocio" from Italian using three different translators including one of my most trusted translators that was recommended by the head of my language department. Everytime it translated to f%%%%t which is a bannable word. Additionally it lists it as an offensive word.

Hμghes2/16/2018, 6:35:07 PM1 votes

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P3rspective2/16/2018, 8:13:30 PM1 votes

Calling someone a %%% repeatedly is more than likely what caused the ban.