Can spamming "?" be a reportable offense?

Aír··16 votes·3,867 views

Someone spamming "?" aggravates me more than any toxic behavior. I would rather have someone tell me to kill myself in chat. Why? Because at least I can mute than report the person and then I do not have to deal with their behavior again. These people will get punished for their toxicity, especially since I always report the person through player support with video and chat logs afterwards if they truly are that toxic.

Sadly, we cannot do that with pings. Not that I want to - pings are an essential way to communicate - but once this useful tool gets abused as another way to vent toxicicity WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES, than we have a problem. Perhaps having a system that tracks how often someone spam pings over someone's body after they die or when the spammer dies is too far away, but if I could just send video recording of people doing this multiple times a game through player support, I would be quite happy and it may alleviate my aggravation with those pings a bit.

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Maximum Morde10 votes

Get rekt.

mirAcIe5 votes

Can't believe this shit gets upvoted. What's next, you want endgame screen to say PARTICIPATED instead of DEFEAT? Screw this stupid safe space mentality. It's a competitive game and if you are not ready to feel bad, why are you even here?

Aír3 votes

Wow, I am guessing you support Tyler1 as well?

mirAcIe3 votes

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Wow, I am guessing you support Tyler1 as well?

From "?" to intentional feeding. That's a pretty long leap. 10/10 argument.

Aír1 votes

He was also known for being extremely verbally toxic too. Which is something that Tyler1 fans believe is not the offender's fault, but rather the victims' for not being "man enough" to take it.

mirAcIe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Airman CompSci,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iGzGrbNm,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-16T17:45:24.935+0000)

He was also known for being extremely verbally toxic too. Which is something that Tyler1 fans believe is not the offender's fault, but rather the victims' for not being "man enough" to take it.

"being extremely verbally toxic" is a purposely vague statement because you are trying to compare actual insults to the ping that says "?" and call both of those things "toxic". Toxic =/= things that make you feel bad. If that were true, losing games would be toxic. And thank god we are not at this level of care bearing yet.

You are probably the type of person who gets butthurt when enemy uses laugh or taunt. Thank god Riot was not as anti-competition when they were designing this game and added those things. It's not meant to be anything bad. The only way you can feel really bad about it, if you were a poor sport. And good thing that there is an online game called League of Legends that can prepare you for the real world, because eventually you'll have to learn to accept it when you fail with grace and not get upset when people point it out. Unless you want to be a man-child all your life.

Aír2 votes

Than what is toxic behavior? As far as I was concerned, toxic behavior is behavior exhibited by an individual meant to cause anger, sadness, or general negative emotions on purpose to another individual.

In that case intentionally feeding is toxic, verbally abusing someone is as well, and the pings too which literally pings mia on your intelligence.

mirAcIe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Airman CompSci,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iGzGrbNm,comment-id=000b00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-16T17:57:15.559+0000)

Than what is toxic behavior? As far as I was concerned, toxic behavior is behavior exhibited by an individual meant to cause anger, sadness, or general negative emotions on purpose to another individual.

In that case intentionally feeding is toxic, verbally abusing someone is as well, and the pings too which literally pings mia on your intelligence.

Well, you're wrong. There are a lot of things in life that can cause all of those things that aren't toxic, because the only thing that makes them "bad" is how you perceive them. Cherry picking everything that upsets from your every day life and demanding for it to be banned is quite ignorant, if you ask me. Your inability to accept your loss with grace is the issue within you, and not an external problem.

Seriously, following your logic, SKT is a toxic team because I always feel bad when they win and those guys PURPOSELY go ahead and win to make me feel bad. We should ban them because THINK OF MY FEELINGS.

Drehirth2 votes

League of cry babies

Bloodmorne4 votes

people are reporting for saying ? ahahah just mute them you people report for everything.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Aír2 votes

I can't mute pings sadly, at least not from one particular person, and they still could potentially provide useful information. Just not when they spam "?" ping all over me if they make a mistake or I make a mistake.

I also do understand if I do make a mistake. I am not perfect, no one is. Not even the pros. There is always something someone can improve on. But people do not need to be a**holes about it, ESPECIALLY in ranked. Everyone knows that being toxic increases your chances of losing.

RavenKouhai1 votes

You can mute the pings in volume settings.

Aír1 votes

Can I mute only one person though? I thought it was to mute all pings, not just for that one person.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

I report it under spam and/or harassment if they continually do it (i.e. multiple times in succession or after every death).

If they do it maybe once in a match, I don't really care.

Tsugaga3 votes

Riot has placed their own limits on using pings, so they're programming has already determined the acceptable amount of pings. Due to this, I don't believe it to be reportable, and it also doesn't break any of the Summoner's Code.

I do believe that muting a player should also mute their pings and champion taunts.

Aír2 votes

I can see how it goes against the summoner's code. I mean, it does not "support your team" or "drive constructive feedback." Sure, it may be feedback on what someone did wrong (even if it may be the spammers themselves), but being rude about it is far from constructive.

Tsugaga1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Airman CompSci,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iGzGrbNm,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-05-16T12:38:52.045+0000)

I can see how it goes against the summoner's code. I mean, it does not "support your team" or "drive constructive feedback." Sure, it may be feedback on what someone did wrong (even if it may be the spammers themselves), but being rude about it is far from constructive.

Talking to the enemy doesn't support your team either. Spam pings might not be supportive, and the Summoner's Code states that one ping is enough, however it's not made apparent that it's against the Code.

Also, a player doesn't necessarily need to break the Code in the game that you reported them. Due to the fact that playing with the same player in multiple games is rare, I often report players who I believe break the Code in other games. While spamming pings isn't against the Code, those types of players likely break the Code in other games, so I'd report them if they did it all game.

Fovere3 votes

It used to be. Technically its griefing, but Riot doesnt much care about the behaviors people use to troll, as long as they arent talking when they do it.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

I only use "?" when there's this one douchebag who's at 1 HP, and still thinks he can kill me under turret, and instead got himself killed.

Were you one of those guys?

Flaherty1 votes

he's talking about the missing ping, not just typing "?" in /all

Shac Norris2 votes

that's toxic af tbh

Kei1432 votes

I've seen people on this boards banned for spamming of pings.

Report under unsportsmanlike and leave a detailed message in the notes section, making it easier for Rioters to audit.

Flaherty1 votes

You can turn down ping volume in the in-game settings, you'll still see the ? they make but at least the annoying sound can be dealt with without just turning off all your sound altogether.

The Deckowner1 votes

i was killing scuttle and my top laner died after towerdiving, he then spam pinging me forever

Penns1 votes

Oh I thought you were talking about writing "?" in all chat. Spamming pings is pretty annoying too but spamming "?" in chat after every kill is the worst lol.

Monkey D Luffy1 votes

ye ? in chat is bad too lol

Aír1 votes

at least I can mute the person in that case.

Corporate Pig1 votes

pls no I spam cus my teammates r dense

Darkslayer851 votes

You can lower ping volume in settings; set it to zero.

Fovere1 votes

I see nothing wrong with calling someone out for a mistake, but harassment/griefing kills the game for everyone.

Ping spamming is particularly annoying as the only way to block it is to mute all pings, not just the offender.

deathgod51 votes

it depends for example this saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:? saltie the clown 4:?

is counted as spamming

this: saltie the clown 4:?

is not really seen as anything, since it isn't really insulting.

Ada Wong1 votes

Yeah but who follows the summoners code anyways....

1.) Supports (WHO DO NOTHING) God I mean a Fat ZERO on the school test (NOTHING) they build a few tank items and Do nothing to support the team in a group fight its annoying as hell.

2.) Pings players who don't use them properly is annoying... Pinging over 7 seconds out when the standard in my book is within 1-3 seconds before your ass is in the lane fighting and killing the enemy like holy hell this gets players killed and enemy ahead.

3.) Junglers who do nothing they see a lane getting camped 3 times in a row they can't do any of the following...

. No counter jungle example their champion can easily win 1v1's vs the enemy jungle . Don't gank properly but take XP/CS From allies throwing them off more. . Don't play a champion that supports group play example (Sejuani)

So over-all are useless and then argue why a game is being lost???

Define constructive feedback if you write a 500 word essay in 3 minutes in a game that is being lost because players don't know what they are doing or should not be playing a said champion in a specific comp players usually just argue and the person saying you should not be playing (X) Champion because that specified champion brings nothing to the fight for (X) reasons) could be considered toxic behavior even if its the flat out truth that some players have no idea what the hell they are doing and the game would have been better off if they played (X) other champion and landed a (CC) stun rather than did nothing.

Over-All no one follows the summoners code these days because most games are either flat out players who do not even use their brains at all or argue all the time its just how it is doesn't matter that I played a off meta mid in 3 games today and bailed out my team 5+ times in a game its still lost because others have no idea what the hell they are doing and in many cases argue / harassment chat in two of my games threatening to report and such.

Just Me Talon1 votes

grow up lol if i ever see you in my game be prepared for the big salt

monk3yez1 votes

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