Surrender at 20

MarkySparks·Feb 28, 2016·7 votes·3,193 views

Why should surrender be at twenty minutes when a game is going so horrible that no one on the losing team wants to play? Why should we be forced to play with toxic players for twenty minutes? I think that as soon as there is a significant advantage then players should be allowed to surrender or if the whole team is being toxic. Most games where people really really want to surrender are 10-15 minutes in the game and that is all I want to be able to do. I think a 15 minute surrender would be much better and would keep the people who are not toxic from becoming toxic.

8 Comments

FrankerXFeb 29, 20162 votes

i think since season 6 is a really fast season and comebacks are really rare, they should lower the surrender time to 15min.

IqqiFeb 29, 20162 votes

The surrender timer itself is a really terrible system. Personally every system Riot has implemented is terrible.

The surrender system itself makes no sense. Today in season 6 games are decided in practically the first 10 min because Riot has substantially increased snowballing. Games get out of hand so fast and its impossible for a majority of the player base to recover.

There is no logical reason whatsoever for the surrender timer to be anything over 10 minutes. The system still requires a strong majority vote to be successful. If 4 people dont click yes, there is no surrender.... You can't gimp the system.

I have virtually the same though on ARAM. If I queue up for ARAM and get destroyed in champ select and a teammate is AFK so its a 4v5 slaughter. The fact that I have to just sit around (cant go AFK!) for 15min while we wait for the enemy team to get strong enough to take towers and finally win is probably the most embarrassing thing Riot has ever done. You know with the exception of removing 5's and solo Q.

Someone on here is going to say that a group of 5 players could abuse the system to farm IP. My response to that is it would be so incredibly easy for Riot to scale IP gained after a match by the duration of the match and also include a surrender penalty.

There is virtually no logical reason for the surrender timer to exist at any capacity in all honestly.

Fighting WolfMar 1, 20162 votes

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The surrender timer itself is a really terrible system. Personally every system Riot has implemented is terrible.

The surrender system itself makes no sense. Today in season 6 games are decided in practically the first 10 min because Riot has substantially increased snowballing. Games get out of hand so fast and its impossible for a majority of the player base to recover.

There is no logical reason whatsoever for the surrender timer to be anything over 10 minutes. The system still requires a strong majority vote to be successful. If 4 people dont click yes, there is no surrender.... You can't gimp the system.

I have virtually the same though on ARAM. If I queue up for ARAM and get destroyed in champ select and a teammate is AFK so its a 4v5 slaughter. The fact that I have to just sit around (cant go AFK!) for 15min while we wait for the enemy team to get strong enough to take towers and finally win is probably the most embarrassing thing Riot has ever done. You know with the exception of removing 5's and solo Q.

Someone on here is going to say that a group of 5 players could abuse the system to farm IP. My response to that is it would be so incredibly easy for Riot to scale IP gained after a match by the duration of the match and also include a surrender penalty.

There is virtually no logical reason for the surrender timer to exist at any capacity in all honestly.

lol So my first game in season six was with kog, which i had not played since he was a heavy ap champ, so i go adc with kog and i get a heim support who ended up getting more cs than me. Needless to say bot didn't do so well i was 0/3/0 and heim 0/1/0 and i forget what top and jg were but our mid quit 15 minutes in. Fast forward 20 minutes none of us tried to FF at 20 for whatever reason, we are down 40-12 and we start winning teamfights even with out missing ezreal the game lasted one our our mid never came back and we won... no game is too far from a comeback.

General NashorMar 1, 20162 votes

I agree, i dont think the surrender system is too good.. and i wont jeopardize leaverbuster by going AFK.

ArekuxFeb 28, 20161 votes

idk what you're talking about bro, this game only has 0.006% of toxic players, or at least that the stats rito gives to the permabanned players when they ban them. this game has 99.004 players who are respectful and responsible individuals and that is why rito not gonna do anything about it :)

IqqiFeb 29, 20161 votes

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idk what you're talking about bro, this game only has 0.006% of toxic players, or at least that the stats rito gives to the permabanned players when they ban them. this game has 99.004 players who are respectful and responsible individuals and that is why rito not gonna do anything about it :)

Actually Riot's stat is 8% https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752924-Behavior-Alerts-FAQ

To answer your question Riot's leadership do nothing about it because they don't have to. We are all still here and we are all still buying skins. That's why nothing has changed.

MarkySparksMar 1, 20162 votes

That's the only reason people dont quit, if I could get all my money back I would probably never play again. Riot as a corporation does not care about its players and only care about making money. Many of their employees care and I commend them for that but this game is not as fun as it used to be.