@RiotTantrum or any Rioter who bans players. I demand an answer for once in my 7ys of playing please

Liquid Dario··2 votes·1,564 views

I am asking for help in having you guys personally deal with 2-3 matches of mine in which I reported the person IFS did nothing went to SUPPORT which again did nothing and now I am just pissed off and tired of it and would really like someone to look into these games personally so that these players who are ruining my and 6-8 others experiences receive their proper punishments.

Alot of players are now holding champion select hostage or just straight up trolling. I will explain all 3 cases without naming any names because if I say them obviously your going to remove it. I could easily supply you with the matches through my match history so you could investigate.

I am at my wits end dealing with these players and they are beginning to piss me off because nothing is being done. And for the 1000th time do not say they need to start a File or Case against them because I know that when people are bad enough they get instant 14 day bans and at LEAST one of these cases deserves that for sure.

I can see the other two cases saying MAYBE they need to build up a case against them but the most recent one speaks for itself and really should not need any CASE to deal with them it should be a 14 day ban or perma ban without a doubt. I will start with my most recent game.

1 - We enter champion select I am ADC position in champion select. Troll A asks "can I adc ?" to which I respond with "Sorry I am practicing" to which he responds with DUCK YOU ( he used the actual swear word but I'm putting this hear cause I don't want this post removed ) Troll A then responds by banning my intended pick in champion select. So I then choose another champion intent ( not realizing this player has 2 other members with him ) He then tells Troll B to choose my champion so that I cannot choose it and then to trade it to Troll A which Troll B complies with Troll A's request. We get into the game and Troll A then makes a physical threat towards me something about smashing my face in to which I promptly mute him. Troll A goes 2 or 1/12 during the match basically intentionally feeding and intentionally throwing the game with the full intent to do so. Simply trolling in champion select obviously means he had the full intent of trolling to begin with. Troll B tries to play the game properly but hes part of the situation happening in the first place and knew full well what was going to happen so technically hes no better than Troll A.

Now to make matters even worse I see the enemy Kalista all chatting Troll A calling him a troll ... so I question him with " hey Kalista do you know the Troll A, did he troll you too ?"

To which the Kalista responds " Yes he did the same thing last game with his two duo partners he was intentionally trolling and feeding " at this point I request the Kalista to report Troll A and Troll B but to not report supposed Troll C as he was playing the game normally and did not want him to be falsely reported.

Troll C even adds me at the end of the game to apologize for his friend as if hes expecting me to show sympathy for Troll A or perhaps to hope that I would not report Troll A and jeopardize his account.

The game ends and I report them both ... IFS ... does nothing ... So I went to Support as well I hope that will work but I highly doubt it as I have reported many in the past to which there still playing today ... I even have one of them on my friends list on purpose to see if something was done to him but yea nothing was done.

2 - we enter champion select and Troll A says " we lose because I am going to troll " we enter the game and the Troll does exactly as he says. He takes an AP mage support and builds 4 Daggers and a Zeal. I believe he died almost 20 times if I recall. Ran it down mid Tyler 1 style at least a few times. Troll A then laughs in all chat about doing said intentional feeding and does smiley faces etc basically acknowledging that he knows hes doing this intentionally and feels that he will not be punished by Riot and even claims as such in all chat.

The game ends and I report Troll A ... IFS ... does nothing SURPRISE! .... so I went to Support as well .... Nothing .... player is still playing. ( This is the player I added to my friends list to see if he would be punished for his behavior NOPE STILL PLAYING )

3 - Similar with situation 2 but this player is mid lane. I am unsure that they built purposely bad items but they definitely did enough for me to report and recall it.

Again IFS does nothing SURPRISE! .... so I went to Support as well .... Nothing .... player is still playing.

Since all 3 situations have been brought up with Support I can easily go back to the match history to give to you Rioters for personal review ... This is why I ALWAYS report both through the IFS USELESS system and Support. So that I can easily recall the proof if necessary.

So please Riot preferably @Riot Tantrum ( if I'm butchering his name I am sorry ) please come in here and respond to this so maybe we can get two or three very bad trolls out of our game and make this a better place for all. No one deserves to have to deal with these scenarios. The first scenario should have been an instant zero tolerance situation that the IFS system should have detected and even then a manual review of the report or reports should have been enough for him and his friend to get instantly punished for their behavior. How this failed to do so concerns me deeply.

34 Comments

Unreformed Shaco2 votes

Lmao, you think riot cares about stuff that actually ruins the game?

They only give a fuck about people who say nasty words.

Liquid Dario2 votes

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Lmao, you think riot cares about stuff that actually ruins the game?

They only give a fuck about people who say nasty words.

Nasty words such as Troll A threatening me with physical harm ?

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

They usually do care about that, who knows why though.

Lauchmelder2 votes

I don't know either, maybe it has to do with normal people not wanting to put up with someone's toxic ass behavior. That's just my non toxic guess though.

Unreformed Shaco2 votes

You mean they want to act like babies when someone says some naughty words they don't like.

Adults just move on and grow up.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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You mean they want to act like babies when someone says some naughty words they don't like.

Adults just move on and grow up.

Adults don't go to the boards and constantly make whiny salty posts. Yet here you are.

Liquid Dario1 votes

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EvilDustMan2 votes

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I am not going to take your provocative response's any longer ... typical of an NA player to talk about salty posts and whining ?

You sir are most likely part of the problem I also notice your the only NA poster to post in this thread. While everyone else was supportive of the situation you were the exact opposite.

Seems like NA players have an issue with getting reported and you know someone actually doing something about it.

You realize that post wasn't directed at you, but a poster that repeatedly spreads misinformation and salt?

Liquid Dario1 votes

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You realize that post wasn't directed at you, but a poster that repeatedly spreads misinformation and salt?

ah sorry about that then I must have been not paying proper attention. Thank you for letting me know. Deleted my post =]

CooL Ice Tea1 votes

Adults just move on and grow up.

why don't adulst just move on after there banned account and grow up? Every toxic idiot wants to tell us "you are stupid to get hurt by flame".

I tell you you are stupid to get hurt by a ban.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

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Liquid Dario1 votes

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Because a ban can take away thousands of dollars worth of stuff.

Flame takes away nothing.

If all the people who cried about hurt feelings killed themselves, mankind would probably be travelling through different solar systems.

Maybe you just should not flame and be toxic then your thousands of dollars worth of stuff would not get taken from you ?

There is zero reason for players to be intentionally toxic. Flaming hurts a lot more than you think it has an impact on many players games and the players who are involved in that game. It ruins the experience of the game for everyone.

I would suggest you think about times when players flame and trolled you and cost you ranked games and promotional's just because they felt that flaming takes away nothing.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

Bullshit, people walking around following you or purposely denying you farm/xp is more detrimental than someone saying you're shit.

Kitty Cat Tosha1 votes

It both is. Trolling causes flaming and flaming causes trolling. Both are purposefully ruining a game.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

Exactly, but Riot could not give a fuck about people who intentionally take cs or follow you around.

You have to sit there and take it, you cant even complain.

Lauchmelder3 votes

A ban could cost you an account worth thousands of dollars. Flaming could result in a ban.

Thus flaming could cost you an account worth thousands of dollars.

'Nuff said.

scazzman1 votes

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Now to make matters even worse I see the enemy Kalista all chatting Troll A calling him a troll ... so I question him with " hey Kalista do you know the Troll A, did he troll you too ?"

To which the Kalista responds " Yes he did the same thing last game with his two duo partners he was intentionally trolling and feeding " at this point I request the Kalista to report Troll A and Troll B but to not report supposed Troll C as he was playing the game normally and did not want him to be falsely reported.

fair warning, if you're going to ask for reports. do it in postgame chat. because asking in game can get you banned

Liquid Dario1 votes

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fair warning, if you're going to ask for reports. do it in postgame chat. because asking in game can get you banned

Oh thank you for letting me know I will do that for now on then that is something I did not know ... I wish Riot would make that information available I had no idea -.- really thanks for letting me know so I can avoid that in the future.

Timethief491 votes

well it is kinda available if you think about it. they say you shouldnt be negativ and asking for reports basicly tryes to make people pile on one player though unneeded. it doesnt matter if its one or 9 reports it doesnt change on how the case is taken

Liquid Dario1 votes

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well it is kinda available if you think about it. they say you shouldnt be negativ and asking for reports basicly tryes to make people pile on one player though unneeded. it doesnt matter if its one or 9 reports it doesnt change on how the case is taken

Yea I will definitely not do that anymore. I really would be upset if I ended up getting myself in trouble for asking others to report him and then making myself reportable and getting in trouble

Mus1 votes

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fair warning, if you're going to ask for reports. do it in postgame chat. because asking in game can get you banned

Indeed. Just like the law system. "Anything you say on the rift, can be used against you in the Tribunal of Law" Asking someone to report someone, is considered Negative Behavior/SemiToxic because it comes off with a bad vibe. Just wait and ask for reports in EndGame Chatroom and report them as well. One report is all is needed to get someone punished, keep in mind.

Hambone20133 votes

Do not ask for reports. EVER it still counts in post game chat. One report is enough to flag the game more doesn't do anything.

scazzman1 votes

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Do not ask for reports. EVER it still counts in post game chat. One report is enough to flag the game more doesn't do anything.

actually multiple rioters have stated that asking for reports is okay in postgame chat, the reason you aren't supposed to do it in game is it becomes a distraction

Liquid Dario1 votes

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Do not ask for reports. EVER it still counts in post game chat. One report is enough to flag the game more doesn't do anything.

It honestly does not feel like any amount of reports is enough. The fact that this player threatened physically harming another player should have instantly been picked up by the IFS. If the system can fail in even doing what it was designed for in a case such as that. Then how can we honestly trust that its doing its job in other situations ?

I wish they would bring back the tribunal already it was honestly a far superior system of dealing with toxic players. This IFS system seems to be a massive failure. The only thing I will say that it does well if it even does this is the whole ban wave for 3rd party software.

And that is fine if they want to keep it there for that reason keep it and the tribunal not just one or the other. The IFS seems to fail in every other scenario and needs to build a "CASE" 100 games long of negative behavior before you even get so much as a chat restriction. The IFS is too LAX on punishing players properly.

This behavior has been going on as long as I have played it 7 years Riot has had. They hired some guy who is gone now who used us as guinea pigs for this system so that we could be rid of toxicity and even it fails at doing so.

Riot really just needs to stop being afraid to lose some player base to get the scum out of this game and actually start Tyler 1 bans against players who behave to this level of toxicity. Simply ban their account and any new account they make. If they can do it to Tyler 1 they can do it to anyone.

Sure the player can jump through 10 hoops to play again which Tyler 1 does from time to time but at least those are hoops he has to jump to play which I am sure is a pain ... not to mention that when he gets high up he will again get the account banned. Which I am sure is even more annoying to deal with.

I feel this is the main reason Riot will never win the battle against toxicity. Riot is purposely set up to fail in this respect period. There is literally nothing they can do to stop you from playing their game again if you want. There is ALWAYS a way to get through whatever gate Riot puts on you.

Which makes fighting toxicity unwinnable. The best they do is offer some VERY TINY extra rewards for being a good person, which is FAR and few between I remember getting one single free skin like years ago for being a positive player. That is FAR from promoting positive behavior from the community.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

TLDR

EvilDustMan1 votes

It's time to let it go. You reported them. Riot will get to it. Continuing to report them and bug Support isn't going to do anything. The system works on its own time.

Liquid Dario1 votes

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It's time to let it go. You reported them. Riot will get to it. Continuing to report them and bug Support isn't going to do anything. The system works on its own time.

Hence why I am here asking for a Rioter directly. Especially Riot Tantrum he seems to have a strong sense for justice in situations like this. If there is one Rioter who would actually do something to deal with these players who clearly deserve to be dealt with it would be him.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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Hence why I am here asking for a Rioter directly. Especially Riot Tantrum he seems to have a strong sense for justice in situations like this. If there is one Rioter who would actually do something to deal with these players who clearly deserve to be dealt with it would be him.

Yes. And I am saying 'stop'. Not only will it probably not get his attention, but you are sitting here dwelling on it. You reported them, if what you said is true, it will be taken seriously.

Now it is time to move on. Play a game. Do something else. Not constantly sweat to make sure they get punished.

Liquid Dario1 votes

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Yes. And I am saying 'stop'. Not only will it probably not get his attention, but you are sitting here dwelling on it. You reported them, if what you said is true, it will be taken seriously.

Now it is time to move on. Play a game. Do something else. Not constantly sweat to make sure they get punished.

I am no longer playing tonight. I will await a Rioter response. While I am waiting for one I am doing other things.

Kei1431 votes

Privacy reasons, someone's account being punished in the future is really none of your business.

Even if they did do something about it, you'll never be notified.

IFS is slow on intentional feeder punishment, but will eventually get to them. Right now you are just putting unnecessary stress on yourself. Let it go and move on.

Liquid Dario1 votes

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Privacy reasons, someone's account being punished in the future is really none of your business.

Even if they did do something about it, you'll never be notified.

IFS is slow on intentional feeder punishment, but will eventually get to them. Right now you are just putting unnecessary stress on yourself. Let it go and move on.

I am tired of letting it go ... its time something is done. I will await a Rioters response.

Kei1431 votes

Even if they did do something about it, you'll never be notified.

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Privacy reasons

Glu10Sensitivity1 votes

You have no right to know whether or not anyone gets punished. It is a courtesy that you get any information from Riot at all.

Liquid Dario1 votes

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You have no right to know whether or not anyone gets punished. It is a courtesy that you get any information from Riot at all.

And this is what promotes the idea to the general player base that nothing is ever done by Riot to deal with these things. When someone comes into my game threatens physically harming me then yes it becomes my right and I will find out by any means necessary if said player was punished appropriately for his behavior.

If Riot tells me or not is of little consequence there's many sites that will tell you such as op.gg which will show the players history and show if hes continuing to play matches after threatening players with physical harm. And if hes still playing then Riot should be held accountable for their inablilty to punish said players.

And that information should be brought forth for players to scrutinize Riot and tell them there wrong for not punishing said player by showing Riot this is not the type of player we want in our community.

By hiding everything nothing is done. And I am sure that's Riot's overall goal is to hide it. They do not want the bad press or have to sink time or money into further resources to deal with the issue. So the less players will bring it up openly the less Riot has to invest into dealing with the scenario.

Riots war on Toxic's is like Americas war on drugs. It will likely be a never ending struggle in which Riot will never win. Therefore they choose to sweep it under a rug and cower behind an IFS system that only punishes SEVERE cases, to which apparently a physical threat is not severe enough.

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