Stay out of ranked.
Youtube, Mobafire, normals and bots until you get better. It's NOT fun to play with you in ranked. It's NOT fun to have to carry you. It's NOT fun to lose promos cause you go 0/8 and think it's funny and "just a bad game".
Please... play all you want, Just not ranked.
Jamaree20 votesToo afraid to post on your main account, obviously you are bad and need to stay out of ranked then.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesTroll Logic.
Primaquarius5 votesYou mean #Strawman ?
MasterSomething9 votesWe all have bad games, man. We can't control them. Sometimes the enemy is too good. Sometimes a flaming jerk is distracting us.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesExcuses are just that. I'm not talking about the random bad game. I'm talking about the players that have no business being in ranked. I mean the guy with 15 champs, no idea how to play them or how to lane, no clue what their counters are, how to play against almost anything, no understanding of team fighting, objectives, or cs, blame other people for being behind when it's simply not true... I'd go on but you and everyone here doesn't want to hear truth, they just want to troll.
MasterSomething6 votesDisagreeing with you and pointing out one's fallacies isn't trolling. 15 champs aren't enough for ranked. Most Bronze-Plat players are like that. If you expect me to ace every single concept in League down to the last detail, I am going to laugh at your face. We aren't the Koreans, we can't master every single thing. Our rank is usually supposed to show that.
BoomHunterF2 votesWhat's your rank?! Too afraid to show it buddy :D
Brody Biggu8 votesIf you are so good, then you wont have to worry about terrible players
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesTroll Logic.
Jamaree7 votesTroll Logic.
Clearly, then why aren't you posting on your main account then?
Jamaree3 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ezIATXj1,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-29T06:03:49.511+0000)
But it is so easy ;-;
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesI responded to multiple comments that I felt the same way about... they're not duplicated.
PIMPSMOOTH7 votesInb4 someone Opgg's you being Bronze 4 and the fireworks begin.
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
No flash no life7 votesI can tell you're frustrated, and you're neither the first nor the last to feel that way.
However, you have to understand that in the eyes of faker-tier players, you're not much different from those bad players you speak of. I believe you'd agree, reluctant or not, that this makes no sense if they tell you to stay out of ranked because you're not as good as they are.
You refer to those who have no idea what they're doing in this game, but as long as they're playing with those who also have no idea what they're doing, then there shouldn't be a problem. What you're encountering is riot's matchmaker doing its job and matching you with ppl who shouldn't play with/against you.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesSO because I'm not Michael Jordan, I'm forced to play basketball with the team mate that runs into the pole holding the hoop up and then goes away for half the game to get a soda and pretzel at the snack stand while playing in a seasonal competition with other teams? Pro logic. I don't think we should have to include that guy in the game. Or at least we should be able to explain to them "dude, go to the gym once a week then come back in a little while".
Trashlord Kayden5 votesif you are not so terrible, then you can carry an 0/8, you think it's fun, you could maybe carry two 0/8's, you don't put others down, and you have some damn respect for other's feelings and thoughts. suck it up. it's a game. not like you're gonna be in the lcs anyway.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesTroll Logic.
Bettnachleger5 votesYou obviously don't know how a ladder works. Btw. this "baddies" are mathematically more often on the enemy team(if you play enough games), so why do you complain about them? They help you ranking up [slayer-jinx-catface]
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesPlease show your math. Full calculations and explanation of your method of statistical analysis and why it's significant to the data would be nice...
Don't have real math? Just the stuff you made up in your head? Yeah... thought so.
[zombie-brand-clap]
TrulyBland8 votesLet p be the chance of a player being a "baddie". Huge amount of players thus we can approximate that the chances don't shift as you add players to the team.
You are not a baddie, thus your chance of going completely baddie free on your team: PA(0) := (1 - p)^4 Enemy team has five slots, thus chance of going completely baddie free on enemy team: PE(0) := (1 - p)^5 = PA(0) * (1 - p) < PA(0)
Chance of getting one baddie on your team: PA(1) := p * (1 - p) ^ 3 * 4 Chance of getting one baddie on enemy team: PE(1) := p * (1 - p) ^ 4 * 5 = PA(1) * (1 - p) * 5/4
Chance of getting two baddies on your team: PA(2) := p ^ 2 * (1 - p) ^ 2 * 43/2 Chance of getting two baddies on enemy team: PE(2) := p ^ 2 * (1 - p) ^ 3 * 54/2 = PA(2) * (1 - p) * 5/3
Chance of getting three baddies on your team: PA(3) := p ^ 3 * (1 - p) ^ 1 * 4 Chance of getting three baddies on enemy team: PE(3) := p ^ 3 * (1 - p) ^ 2 * 5 = PA(3) * (1 - p) * 5/4
Chance of getting four baddies on your team: PA(4) := p ^ 4 * Chance of getting four baddies on enemy team: PE(4) := p ^ 4 * (1 - p) = PA(4) * (1 - p)
Chance of getting five baddies on your team: PA(5) = 0 Chance of getting five baddies on enemy team: PE(5) = p ^ 5
Expectation for amount of baddies on your team: PA(1) + PA(2) * 2 + PA(3) * 3 + PA(4) * 4 Expectation for amount of baddies on enemy team: (PA(1) * (1 - p) * 5/4) + (PA(2) * (1 - p) * 5/3 * 2) + (PA(3) * (1 - p) * 5/4 * 3)
For (1 - p) > 80% it's obvious that the second is larger For (1 - p) < 80% it's still going to be larger due to the 5*p^5 term (feel free to do the math; though... I don't actually have the time since I'm about to leave)
WinBoat1 votesThis can be all ignored now given it's premades usually now until solo q comes back.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes"Huge amount of players thus we can approximate that the chances don't shift as you add players to the team."
This assumes that at any given time across every MMR the number of players even perceived to be good and / or bad is consistent for both teams. Typically, it's a safe assumption in statistics when there's no manipulation of the data pool which would make the number of data points significant or not. It's not a safe assumption in video game win rates and I'll explain.
Based on your data it also assumes that the 1 player on the team would not be a "baddie". It doesn't account for "good" players on the enemy team canceling out that player and many other factors. So, you assume that 4 players on one team able to be bad vs. 5 players on the enemy team that are able to be bad boil down to the simple idea that 4>5. Which simply doesn't hold true in a game with as many factors as this one and as large a game sample as this one. This means that over enough gams you should win 20% more games than your opponents purely based on your skill level. But that simply isn't true. It's a fallacy and troll logic to suggest that skill level would effect games this much in every game played when your TEAMS MMR is similar to your opponents TEAM MMR. Put Faker on a team of noobs vs. froggen and a team of noobs. Your logic suggests that these players determine the outcome of their game. But I would suggest that the noobs on their team would. If these players are good enough to equally defeat the noobs on the other team and equally fight themselves then the "noobs" on their team would be a much greater factor in victory and defeat than them.
There is also a number of games that "balance" each other out when looking purely at win rates over large data samples. Warcraft publishes this information and thus I'll use it. On any given server (or collection of servers), Horde vs. Alliance win rates in pvp is approximately 50 / 50. What is not shown in this part of the statistic is how Horde win 95% of games during the hours of 9 AM to 11 PM EST and Alliance win 95% of games between 11 PM and 8 AM EST. This means the match up of each team is not equal. YOU WILL LOSE queuing at a certain time if you're on the wrong side. It's that simple. Blizzard specifically manipulates this into a 50 / 50 win rate by combining certain servers and battlegroups. Prior to servers and battlegroups, players were specifically (and still do to an extent as they do transfer to certain battlegroups) to be able to queue at certain times and win all the time. This happens. It's proven.
So, what I meant by a statistical analysis would be to find a large pool (approx. 1 million) of League games and show how your statistics hold true. Personally, I think I've shown how you've done a poor job at best of defending your work. But please... try to counter me. This is getting fun.
Jorencice6 votesU only have 4 chances to get a baddie.
They have 5.
Countered...
I mean cmon it's really just that simple. If your losing alot the only common denominator is you...
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesAgain... you know this... how? If it's so simple, prove it. If your logic is correct. Back it up.
If not, you're wrong.
Jorencice3 votesSeriously.
Okay.
5-1=4 5-0=5
You really couldn't do that math yourself?
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesStatistically prove that your statement is true. Obviously 4>5. But that's not the full statement. You're assuming that there's no manipulation of the team you're facing and many other things that are inaccurate, incorrect or skew the basic math you're doing. There's a reason statistical analysis isn't as simple as 5-1=4. If you don't know how to do proper statistical analysis of this or don't have enough of your own (as I have) or provided (as RIOT has not) data points then you probably don't know what you're talking about.
Jorencice4 votesLol. Nope your trying way to hard.
You just hired an entire maintenence Crew for something that can be fixed with duct tape.
YOU ALWAYS EXIST every game you play. Thus YOU are a constant. Thus if you play good YOU CAN NEVER BE A BADDIE EVER.
Thus
4 possible baddies your team.
5 possible baddies their team.
The math seriously is just that simple.
This math would work with any statistic ever.
If you grab 9 random people and form them up into teams of 5 including your self and then count how many males are in each group.
Then if you are a male your team will always have more males over time.
Because the other teams pool has a bigger variation than your because their team doesn't have a constant.
TLDR: Stop over thinking it.
Whut Thuh 1 votesthe problem with that is that you can almost always asume that there will be one good person on the team. also player composition of a game isnt completely random but with riots matching system the chances are augmented so yould have to have riots full algorithim to get the actuall statistic. but hey it might still be correct. if someone does the the full statistic show me :)
Whut Thuh 1 voteshe said it was his placements which explains him being in the same ladder as newcomers
and no they are not mathematically more often on the enemy team and no they do not help you rank up
there is an exact 50% percent chance that they will be on your team (if there is going to be one in your game) and they hurt people as much as they "help" them. how would you like to lose your placements because of someone who doesnt belong in ranked. yes there are criteria that should be followed before entering a ranked game. such as a medium sized champion pool. relative knowledge of every champion and every mechanic in the game. no excuses
LordofEntropy4 votesWell since you're so skilled and those people are so horrible, you shouldn't worry cause you will never be matched with them! Oh, unless your MMRs are similar.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesOr it's the beginning of the season?
Trashlord Kayden3 votesidiot logic ^ normal people, common sense.
Gimpy892 votesyou are lvl 8. Don't smurf dude.
Tempestsage2 votesneed to be good to smurf, I really feel that people for get that, and a bronze account is not a smurf either, having a high ranking more then normal knowledge of the game is what i think a smurf should be considered imo. I dont think im a smurf lol.
Gimpy892 votesi was talking to the OP not you -_-. His account is lvl 8 and he is complaining about ranked. Therefore he has a lvl 30 account but is playing vs other lvl 8's since you cannot play ranked pre 30.
FrankerX2 votesand you never have those 0/8 games? in season 3 happened to me like every 10th game.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesVery rare. It's typically when I'm trying to carry what's essentially a 1v5 or that everyone lost lane but bot and they were 5v2ing us at level 6. It's common that that kind of game, has trolls I can't help in it and have pushed me into that kind of a score.
Specifically that bad, I would count 2-4 out of my last 200 games.
Tempestsage2 votesyou seem to be in a lot of games where your team is always doing bad, maybe you should start thinking more positive about your team mates and the way the play then being so negative and raging on them in the game. Or maybe you should play something else that wont make you so stressed.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votesI consistently try to help my team. It's not that I think negatively about them at all. Typically, prior to game, I discuss strategy like how our team fighting is better or worse than theirs and to watch out for wombo combos... or something like please be careful with volibear, it'll be a big problem if he gets fed. Help me ward dragon and river since they have a shaco or evelyn or rengar...
I typically do things like this in the effort to help teams succeed. When jungling I ask if lanes need ganks and remind them to set up ganks, I ask them to help me invade and at times come up big. I run to lane to counter gank and ping when I see a jungler earlier than they do.
But all of this is negated when I'm running top to counter gank the mid runs into tower and dies to a zed. And does it again 40 seconds later... and again 40 seconds later... and again 40 seconds later... which makes bot mad as hell at them cause their mid can now roam and then we hear "double kill" bot.... and thus the rest of the game goes.
You also assume that because I'm being fairly blunt in this post that I'm a rager or being negative in game. I am not. And I'm not stressed. It's not fun to play with people who obviously have no clue what they're doing or want to troll. And once, every now and then is fine. But when it happens consistently, I think a new expectation should arise. If you can't help your team, do something that will help you build the skills necessary to help your team.
BYfbwTiHAh2 votesCHYEEAAA
Upvoted
Baddies should be banned imo.
Hippolyta2 votesDont listen this player.. go ranked and learn from your mistakes some times you lose some you win some times you carried from better players and later maybe you carry some other new player.... Jump in the ranked arena and feel the fun of game dont let those elitist to set you on a role.. you choose your destiny you choose your role ignore them all and follow the light !
UP2002 votesIf you're a terrible person...
stay off the boards.
Krigjer2 votesBronze V exists for a reason.
