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What's being done?

ReadyxPlayerxOne··9 votes·1,067 views

Is there any information about what's being done about:

  1. Matchmaking; It's broke. It's not doing what's intended. It matches players who have literally no business playing together. I'm really sick of being the only silver on my team while fighting golds and above.
  2. "intentionally not feeding, but feeding" people; I mean like the 0/15/1 gp that goes to lane and dies, goes to lane and dies... But it's just a bad game... right...
  3. Assholes... It's beyond "don't be a jerk anymore" it's str8 up assholes who just run around ruining games. I don't care where you fall on the singed issue. Being an asshole and playing kat support and zed adc while flaming your team to adapt isn't ok.
  4. Team Recruitment in the client.... Team Recruitment board is a complete failure. We need a way to find people that's from RIOT and preferably in client. I see this as the single best improvement that can be made to the lol community.
  5. Honor system is complete garbage. There's literally nothing in this game that rewards good behavior. It's just penalties and disguised penalties.
  6. Visible Reporting. We should know that our reports do something. Much more than the 2-3 pop ups a year that say something happened. Let us know that we reported 100 people and 90 of them it increased their penalty tier if reported again. Let us know for our own sanity that justice is being served.

Would really like to know why the worst of the worst issues that plague our community have absolutely nothing being done about them.

23 Comments

Handy Sandy 4 votes

For 2, it's not like you can just ban someone because they're bad. Imagine that person being the only silver in their team, while going up against a bunch of golds like you said in number 1. Yea, it's possible that is just a bad game.

Bloodmorne2 votes

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For 2, it's not like you can just ban someone because they're bad. Imagine that person being the only silver in their team, while going up against a bunch of golds like you said in number 1. Yea, it's possible that is just a bad game.

you're apart of the problem

Handy Sandy 4 votes

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you're apart of the problem

Wait..then..what do you do against really bad matchmaking? Just not help your team by laning or anything..?

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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For 2, it's not like you can just ban someone because they're bad. Imagine that person being the only silver in their team, while going up against a bunch of golds like you said in number 1. Yea, it's possible that is just a bad game.

You can sure as shit force them to play bots or normals for a time.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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For 2, it's not like you can just ban someone because they're bad. Imagine that person being the only silver in their team, while going up against a bunch of golds like you said in number 1. Yea, it's possible that is just a bad game.

I'm not talking about that. There's many ways it can be dealt with aside from bans. I'm also referring to the players that will ignore 2 lanes of super minions on the nexus towers, leave me to spam my skills and tank them all, run down mid to engage a team fight that's a pure impossibility of winning after they feed all game and then turn around and yell at me for not being a part of the team fight. They're either BATSHIT INSANE (in which case they shouldn't be in my ranked game) or intentionally feeding and pretending they're not so they don't get banned.

There's a million other examples and all that crap. I don't mind players being bad. I mind that they have no intention of helping win the game. Lack of that intention, I think, is intentional feeding. It's a bit of a troublesome topic as many people, like you, rush to the defense of the common noob but they're not who I'm upset with and I wish I had a better way to describe it.

o brigid o1 votes

Poor decision making isn't a "lack of intending to win," it's literally not having the ability to see the big picture. And that is a skill required to do well at this game. You getting matched up with players that have poor decision making abilities is going to be a part of playing any non-premade team game.

The old report reason for unskilled players was useless, but if they brought it back and had it affect mmr, it could possibly help players match up against equally skilled opponents. then again, this being the league community, i'm sure there's a way for people to abuse it, and they would.

o brigid o1 votes

honestly, it sounds like you really just need to get into a premade group of players or deal with being salty

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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honestly, it sounds like you really just need to get into a premade group of players or deal with being salty

EXACTLY WHY I HAVE THIS POINT INCLUDED:

  1. Team Recruitment in the client.... Team Recruitment board is a complete failure. We need a way to find people that's from RIOT and preferably in client. I see this as the single best improvement that can be made to the lol community.

It's difficult to find a group. I try to, but it's not very easy to find. There are some really horrid problems with having team recruitment be the way it is at current. Including rank bashing, scamming, lowbie and newbie islands (how can you possibly find a good team if you're only meeting bronze players in your games?), play time issues, language issues, toxicity issues... and the list just goes on. The way I see it is that the failure to help people find adequate teams and queue with them is the single biggest problem we have and effects almost every aspect of the game. Extremely so on the player behavior side.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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Poor decision making isn't a "lack of intending to win," it's literally not having the ability to see the big picture. And that is a skill required to do well at this game. You getting matched up with players that have poor decision making abilities is going to be a part of playing any non-premade team game.

The old report reason for unskilled players was useless, but if they brought it back and had it affect mmr, it could possibly help players match up against equally skilled opponents. then again, this being the league community, i'm sure there's a way for people to abuse it, and they would.

Not what I'm talking about, but a reasonable idea for helping people with varying skill levels. I think MMR and the current matchmaking is a joke. 90% of the time you can tell who is going to win by going to lolnexus during the loading screen. Hmm... 3 golds 2 silver vs. 3 bronze a silver and a gold... GEE, I WONDER WHO IS GOING TO WIN...

Poor decision making is fine. I coach people through that quite a lot. Help them see they needed a ward or should have built a different item or grouped or pinged or whatever. I mean the guys who have no intention of winning based on their play. It's those guys who find a "team fight" right after mid game over and over and over because they want the game to end. Does it appear as intentional feeding? No. Is it losing us the game for certain? Yes. Do they do it regardless of me saying I need help defending the base against super minions? Yes.

I'm talking about a specific group of people that are difficult to target because they hide under the radar of "GG, TIME TO RUN IT DOWN MID" type feeders. And I think a lot of people understand I'm not trying to beat up on anyone with skills that don't match my own... that qualm is only in matchmaking and I appreciate I can't have a perfect team every time... but maybe a system that yields a little better than a 6% of games which actually affect most people's ranks. RIOT's stance and have said that it's very, very few cases of real intentional feeding because of how they view it and are able to track it. They don't want to punish people for bad game. Fair enough, but there's a lot of people that get away with suiciding a bit so the game ends quicker, especially when people won't let a surrender vote pass against their will.

Winterkill2 votes

Amen. I just had a toxic person in my group ban my main . . . in mid. I hovered over the champion and was being rude because he probably didn't want to see a Karma mid. There are just too many toxic kids playing right now. Riot needs to really take action. I am tired of it.

Nami in Bush2 votes

What's being done about Diamond 5 where it's a fuckfest of boosted Silver retards talking shit and int feeding?

ReadyxPlayerxOne2 votes

[{quoted}](name=This Urgot,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8z3L6VFh,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-27T22:40:34.865+0000)

What's being done about Diamond 5 where it's a fuckfest of boosted Silver retards talking shit and int feeding?

Every rank has these kinds of problems. Every one. And nothing's done.

Nami in Bush1 votes

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Every rank has these kinds of problems. Every one. And nothing's done.

You think you know.

You can literally look at their profile and see 0-40% win rate of 50 different champs top laners, then has 92% win rate over 80 games of Graves jungle with a 6.0 KDA .

STARS ishyishy2 votes

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Is there any information about what's being done about:

  1. Matchmaking; It's broke. It's not doing what's intended. It matches players who have literally no business playing together. I'm really sick of being the only silver on my team while fighting golds and above.
  2. "intentionally not feeding, but feeding" people; I mean like the 0/15/1 gp that goes to lane and dies, goes to lane and dies... But it's just a bad game... right...
  3. Assholes... It's beyond "don't be a jerk anymore" it's str8 up assholes who just run around ruining games. I don't care where you fall on the singed issue. Being an asshole and playing kat support and zed adc while flaming your team to adapt isn't ok.
  4. Team Recruitment in the client.... Team Recruitment board is a complete failure. We need a way to find people that's from RIOT and preferably in client. I see this as the single best improvement that can be made to the lol community.
  5. Honor system is complete garbage. There's literally nothing in this game that rewards good behavior. It's just penalties and disguised penalties.
  6. Visible Reporting. We should know that our reports do something. Much more than the 2-3 pop ups a year that say something happened. Let us know that we reported 100 people and 90 of them it increased their penalty tier if reported again. Let us know for our own sanity that justice is being served.

Would really like to know why the worst of the worst issues that plague our community have absolutely nothing being done about them.

I agree with everything listed here. I'm silver 5 and this game is just unenjoyable.

Karn Bishop2 votes

Ever since the fill system was turned on i have been getting an increasing amount of toxic players and people who fight during game, additionally i have seen the system much more willing to throw in unranked players into matches throwing a few golds and one silver vs a team of solid tier 1-3 golds and expecting the high mmr gold player to carry a bunch of less skilled players which does not work anymore in a game designed to punish carrying solo.

Great Muta2 votes

Matchmaking;

Seems to be a constant Work in Progress with Flex Q/Dynamic Q and unless you autofill, there's just not enough players it seems for that and Solo Q. Riot would also have you wait 2 mins to play an unfair matchmade game than wait 10 mins and play a fair one.

"intentionally not feeding, but feeding"

They get away with it unless they have a consistent history of doing it, which is unlikely since they usually do it to end a game or because they didn't want put in the position or champ they got anyway.

Assholes

Riot's partially to blame for this. They promote the "will it work?" series and don't punish jerks quickly or harshly enough. Also doesn't help when people get forced into roles or champs they don't want. Riot has also never really established that ranked is supposed to be serious nor went after people who could care less when they play.

Team Recruitment in the client.

Looks like it was forgotten already

Honor system is complete garbage.

Yep. Should be fixed, they said they would but it hasn't gotten there yet. Seems easy to fix too.

Visible Reporting.

Always going to be a problem with their "report weight" system. I report 3 people a game usually and chat has no purpose other than to create reports.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8z3L6VFh,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-11-28T19:17:22.971+0000)

Seems to be a constant Work in Progress with Flex Q/Dynamic Q and unless you autofill, there's just not enough players it seems for that and Solo Q. Riot would also have you wait 2 mins to play an unfair matchmade game than wait 10 mins and play a fair one.

They get away with it unless they have a consistent history of doing it, which is unlikely since they usually do it to end a game or because they didn't want put in the position or champ they got anyway.

Riot's partially to blame for this. They promote the "will it work?" series and don't punish jerks quickly or harshly enough. Also doesn't help when people get forced into roles or champs they don't want. Riot has also never really established that ranked is supposed to be serious nor went after people who could care less when they play.

Looks like it was forgotten already

Yep. Should be fixed, they said they would but it hasn't gotten there yet. Seems easy to fix too.

Always going to be a problem with their "report weight" system. I report 3 people a game usually and chat has no purpose other than to create reports.

I agree with ya, but it's not actually anything being done. Working on something, and failing mostly (specially with the number of queue's they've played with recently) isn't the same as getting something done. I'm one of the players who WILL wait 10 or even 20 minutes in queue. But I want a fair match. I don't want to go into a match knowing my team has almost zero hope of winning unless I carry them extremely hard. There's a lot of stuff that can change and should change and I feel like the new client should have brought some of those changes and yet didn't even come close. It's purely a graphical (and not even that pretty as far as text and chat go) update to what we had with the REMOVAL of a lot of features we all liked.

I don't know what RIOT's thinking... Their open discussions about what they're doing are so tame and politically correct it's impossible to even care about what they're doing. They seem only to be systematically making their game worse by following failed logic paths that they've used time and again.

I just want something in this list that I can actually say helped the game and the community. I haven't seen it yet.

Morality Coach1 votes

Play something tanky and take the gold players out.

Only difference between a gold and a silver is the gold watched a streamer and has a viable strategy.

Gold and above have huge egos and are vulnerable to tanky play with BM, they will chase you to prove a point and throw.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morality Coach,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8z3L6VFh,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-11-28T19:40:16.367+0000)

Play something tanky and take the gold players out.

Only difference between a gold and a silver is the gold watched a streamer and has a viable strategy.

Gold and above have huge egos and are vulnerable to tanky play with BM, they will chase you to prove a point and throw.

Yeah? How am I supposed to fight the Diamond 5 JG when I'm a level 22 JG? I'm all for tough games and good all out fights. I LOVE fighting golds and silvers, it's a lot of fun. But not when matchmaking puts 2-3 bronzes on my team with an unranked and we have to fight 3 silvers a gold and a plat.

And those are just the examples I remember. I lolnexus each game... and it's pretty fucking absurd the match ups right now. I can tell who's going to win literally before the game starts 90% of the time. Is the bronze 4 going to win against a silver 3? No. Is the gold 3 adc going to break the face of the adc he just counter picked? Yes. Is the matchmaking right now complete shit? Yes.

Morality Coach1 votes

Easy, play Amumu, figure out which side of the jungle the diamond jungler is on, start on the opposite, ward at level 2 so you don't get cheesed.

After that you just farm up should be cool.

Counter jungling is risky and you can make it more risky.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morality Coach,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8z3L6VFh,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-11-28T23:33:23.263+0000)

Easy, play Amumu, figure out which side of the jungle the diamond jungler is on, start on the opposite, ward at level 2 so you don't get cheesed.

After that you just farm up should be cool.

Counter jungling is risky and you can make it more risky.

O_O what crack are you smoking?

A diamond player vs. a level 22 is easy? With an amumu? lol... Fuck dude, go get a level 22 account, I'll play on my silver... CLEAR TIMES ALONE... I'll beat you so hard it's disgusting. Kayle vs. my WW wasn't even fair, she'd cleared the jungle and hit 6 before I was level 4.

Morality Coach1 votes

No one in Silver is going to be doing anything except getting hit with all of my low percentage silly tilting stuff and losing.

No one in Diamond is going to roll me over top lane either without a good fight.

Speak for yourself.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morality Coach,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8z3L6VFh,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-29T06:34:13.622+0000)

No one in Silver is going to be doing anything except getting hit with all of my low percentage silly tilting stuff and losing.

No one in Diamond is going to roll me over top lane either without a good fight.

Speak for yourself.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

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