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14 day for this?

BerylCrab··2 votes·915 views

Game 1 BerylCrab: you belong in a museum BerylCrab: should use exhaust before im dead BerylCrab: to be honest i havent seen any good plays on this team yet BerylCrab: seen a bunch of misplays BerylCrab: i got worst sona na BerylCrab: why did u let him get 5 free autos in on me? BerylCrab: i dont really know BerylCrab: i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash BerylCrab: learn how to use your summoners BerylCrab: its not for no reason BerylCrab: its because you dont know how to cast your summoners. BerylCrab: you literally waited until i died BerylCrab: then cast exhaust BerylCrab: even better. BerylCrab: she intentionally let me die BerylCrab: sona and malz are a duo que BerylCrab: that cant handle autofill being a thing BerylCrab: mhm sure BerylCrab: malz and sona reported for abuse and intentional feeding, gg rest of you BerylCrab: no support. BerylCrab: my support is literally BerylCrab: talking aqbout how he failed to provide vision BerylCrab: or support me BerylCrab: and blaming me for it BerylCrab: how funny BerylCrab: heres what really happened. malz and sona are a duo que that cannot handle autofill being a thing BerylCrab: and since i didnt let malz play adc when he is assigned top BerylCrab: they decide they are going to troll and feed BerylCrab: and be incredibly toxic all game BerylCrab: if only you could see our chat BerylCrab: im having a bad game by sona's design

I would absolutely LOVE for the entire chat log to be posted by a red. I 100% give permission to do this. compared to everyone else on my team this is incredibly tame behavior that absolutely does not deserve a ban.

I literally got trolled by a duo queue that didn't like that they were autofilled and i didn't give them their role, and then tried to defend myself from their incredibly toxic behavior. this is absolutely ridiculous that i was punished for this game. and it is ONLY this game.

48 Comments

FioraWillCarry5 votes

I don't care what they said, what you said is bad enough. Serously, none of what you said was called for.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

How can you say that without context?

Chermorg2 votes

Because context doesn't matter when there is a button OP could've pushed to not have to deal with what the others were saying.

OP instead of muting decided to turn one (or a few) toxic players into that plus him. He was part of the problem. Not part of the solution.

#Context. Doesn't. Matter.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

It doesn't matter when it comes to Riots automated system, but to say that something "wasn't called for" absolutely needs context.

Chermorg1 votes

Being toxic to strangers on the internet on a video game is never called for.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash

There is no context that can possibly justify making a statement like the above.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

Its really just an opinion. Depends alot on the player. By Riots standards, someone could be inting 0/30, while telling you to kill yourself and wishing cancer upon your family, but calling someone "trash" in return would be "unjustified". Alot of people would think otherwise.

FioraWillCarry2 votes

You're under no obligation whatsoever to respond to the person feeding and wishing for your family's demise. If you do respond and receive a punishment because of it, then it is your own fault and perfectly reasonable. Riot provided you with the means to properly deal with incidents like this via the report system.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-27T09:06:26.861+0000)

Its really just an opinion. Depends alot on the player. By Riots standards, someone could be inting 0/30, while telling you to kill yourself and wishing cancer upon your family, but calling someone "trash" in return would be "unjustified". Alot of people would think otherwise.

yep, I've learned alot about what is acceptable i guess. going to go apply it now.

Squidwards House4 votes

YOUR chat gets YOU punished, others chat gets them banned. mute report stop flame.

stainlord1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Squidwards House,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-08-26T22:43:35.749+0000)

YOUR chat gets YOU punished, others chat gets them banned. mute report stop flame.

no such thing stupido.... there are SO many flamers that get away with it

Squidwards House2 votes

yea cause riot has the mindset of "everyone can have a bad day" and they are pretty nice so you have to flame quite a lot before you get your first CR.

BerylCrab1 votes

lets see the logs. seriously. lets show everyone how horrible your system has become.

BerylCrab1 votes

Lol, how can you possibly know that without seeing what I am responding to?

ModPeriscope1 votes

We don't need to know what anyone else said. Others' chat will only tell us why you said what you said, not whether or not your chat is punishable.

You ultimately had a choice to type and enter what you did.

This Is Your Dad1 votes

BerylCrab: you belong in a museum

This is why you were banned.

BerylCrab1 votes

ok, so my chat get me punished, but what exactly did i do that was wrong here? all i did was defend myself from accusations.

SavageConcordia1 votes

BerylCrab: to be honest i havent seen any good plays on this team yet BerylCrab: i got worst sona na BerylCrab: i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash BerylCrab: malz and sona reported for abuse and intentional feeding, gg rest of you

What was the point of any of these lines of text? They add nothing meaningful to the in-game conversation and all fall under the preview of the "Negative Attitude" report option. Out of curiosity, are you recently coming off of a chat ban?

BerylCrab1 votes

I got off a chat ban about 30 games ago and have since then had my honor level restored and recieved key frags for "improving my behavior" The point of those lines is that the sona is accusing me of trolling and intentionally feeding when i am not and she is infact purposely not helping me in lane so that i cant cs and trying to make it look like i am INT'ing because her duo buddy wanted my role and i chose not to give it to him since he was not assigned BOT. This would all be made clear by the entire log being posted, which is what i want more than anything, i want a riot employee to post the entire chatlog and defend this ban.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

They won't post the entire log because they don't have permission of the other players involved. It can be justified by them for two reasons: 1. Punished based on your actions. 2. It is there game, they could decide to ban me tomorrow for no reason and I technically couldn't do anything about it.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-08-26T23:02:44.519+0000)

They won't post the entire log because they don't have permission of the other players involved. It can be justified by them for two reasons: 1. Punished based on your actions. 2. It is there game, they could decide to ban me tomorrow for no reason and I technically couldn't do anything about it.

so they cant post the log because they dont have other player's permission, but they CAN do whatever they want with any player's account? that is some logic you are using there. I'm well aware they can and do whatever they want with the account, all I want is for them to look at how incredibly toxic the people who reported me are and were, and tell me that they support this ban. If a rioter simply does that I will never play this game again and they will have successfully gotten rid of a "troll"

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

The logic isn't flawless, it basically bowls down to that one infringes on the privacy of a player and the other is property of theirs.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-26T23:14:20.646+0000)

The logic isn't flawless, it basically bowls down to that one infringes on the privacy of a player and the other is property of theirs.

In reality though, they absolutely could post the logs, they just realize how stupid they would look if they did.

woxuyaoni2 votes

No, its different, people here disagree with you, i think your just butt hurt.

zPOOPz4 votes

All companies can do whatever they want with your account (e.g. NetFlik, Gmail, Itunes, etc.) like closing it for any or no reason at all, but they CANNOT release your private data to the public such as personal information and activity logs. Even if it is not illegal by laws (which I think it is), the public relation backlash of releasing private data without permission would be a nightmare.

Rito considers chat logs your private data. They will not release it without your permission. Your LoL account is not a matter of private data. It is a property of Rito Games and they don't need your permission to close it.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

The only thing I have trouble believing is this is the only game in the chat log.

Regardless of how the other two were behaving, you are punished for your behavior.

BerylCrab: to be honest i havent seen any good plays on this team yet BerylCrab: seen a bunch of misplays BerylCrab: i got worst sona na BerylCrab: i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash BerylCrab: malz and sona reported for abuse and intentional feeding, gg rest of you BerylCrab: no support. BerylCrab: my support is literally BerylCrab: talking aqbout how he failed to provide vision BerylCrab: or support me BerylCrab: and blaming me for it

You have a lot of passive aggression and verbal abuse. Maybe the other two were dishing it out too, you got banned because you have more of a history in the punishment system with chat restricts. They may not have a history of such and so unless the use hate speech or encouraging self harm, they may get a chat restrict. Mind you you may not even be notified of it if they did.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-08-26T22:58:18.593+0000)

The only thing I have trouble believing is this is the only game in the chat log.

Regardless of how the other two were behaving, you are punished for your behavior. BerylCrab: seen a bunch of misplays BerylCrab: i got worst sona na BerylCrab: i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash BerylCrab: malz and sona reported for abuse and intentional feeding, gg rest of you BerylCrab: no support. BerylCrab: my support is literally BerylCrab: talking aqbout how he failed to provide vision BerylCrab: or support me BerylCrab: and blaming me for it

You have a lot of passive aggression and verbal abuse. Maybe the other two were dishing it out too, you got banned because you have more of a history in the punishment system with chat restricts. They may not have a history of such and so unless the use hate speech or encouraging self harm, they may get a chat restrict. Mind you you may not even be notified of it if they did.

How do i link a screen shot, i will show you. Swear to god this is the only chat log. the fact that you have a hard time believing it is the only log says volumes about how i don't deserve this ban.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-08-26T22:58:18.593+0000)

The only thing I have trouble believing is this is the only game in the chat log.

Regardless of how the other two were behaving, you are punished for your behavior. BerylCrab: seen a bunch of misplays BerylCrab: i got worst sona na BerylCrab: i can cs just fine when my support isnt utter trash BerylCrab: malz and sona reported for abuse and intentional feeding, gg rest of you BerylCrab: no support. BerylCrab: my support is literally BerylCrab: talking aqbout how he failed to provide vision BerylCrab: or support me BerylCrab: and blaming me for it

You have a lot of passive aggression and verbal abuse. Maybe the other two were dishing it out too, you got banned because you have more of a history in the punishment system with chat restricts. They may not have a history of such and so unless the use hate speech or encouraging self harm, they may get a chat restrict. Mind you you may not even be notified of it if they did.

it only appears to be passive aggression because you cannot see the crap that the sona is saying, which is why i am pushing for the entire log to be posted and to have a rioter actually look at that incredibly toxic chat log where THREE people are flaming and trolling me and actually tell me that i deserve this ban. at which point i will never play this game again.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

I don't know to post screenshots, some just use another site. They will say you shouldn't fight fire with fire and basically let that be the end. Some clarity, just because you have had rewards enabled again and gone up in honor, does not mean you have dropped down the punishment tiers. They really should announce something like that again so people aren't mislead.

Hope someone comes by then Crab.

BerylCrab1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ekBvjKTm,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2017-08-26T23:08:23.515+0000)

I don't know to post screenshots, some just use another site. They will say you shouldn't fight fire with fire and basically let that be the end. Some clarity, just because you have had rewards enabled again and gone up in honor, does not mean you have dropped down the punishment tiers. They really should announce something like that again so people aren't mislead.

Hope someone comes by then Crab.

Thats just it though, I understand why someone might think that I am flaming looking at ONLY my chat, but if you see the kind of crap they are saying to me, you'd realize that I am merely explaining how i am not intentionally feeding or trolling, and infact did absolutely nothing wrong other than defend myself from their incredibly toxic behavior and accusations. I am literally only banned because they are in a duo together and backed each other up in all chat while being incredibly toxic towards me in team chat.

BerylCrab1 votes

Look. I have tried to have faith in this system. I have taken riot's word for it several times where i have felt that i did not deserve a punishment. this time around i KNOW i do not deserve a punishment. Even by riot's own system I restored my honor and started receiving key fragments again. This was the only game that was shown to me, there is no hate speech, and infact 99% of what i said was merely defending myself from three different people flaming and trolling me. If this is not reversed there is something seriously wrong with your report system.

archerno11 votes

Did u have any chat restrictions prior to this?

BerylCrab1 votes

bump 4 justice

BerylCrab1 votes

bump for justice.

Chermorg3 votes

The boards don't generally operate on "bumping" - and bumping won't get your post replied to by a Rioter.

You're punished based on your chat and your chat alone. Usually a Rioter only shows up if a) most of the community here upvotes, usually signifying they believe it should be overturned, or b) if OP has edited/lied about their chat logs/punishment history.

30 games after your 14 day ban and you're back to being that negative? Yes, you did deserve this ban. You obviously didn't heed the warning in the 14 day ban about not being negative.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

The boards don't generally operate on "bumping" - and bumping won't get your post replied to by a Rioter.

You're punished based on your chat and your chat alone. Usually a Rioter only shows up if a) most of the community here upvotes, usually signifying they believe it should be overturned, or b) if OP has edited/lied about their chat logs/punishment history.

30 games after your 14 day ban and you're back to being that negative? Yes, you did deserve this ban. You obviously didn't heed the warning in the 14 day ban about not being negative.

Yeah, i mean you cant even pay attention to whats happening in this thread, so I don't really trust your judgement. See, i just received the 14 day after my 25 game chat restrict. So I was not toxic for over 50 games and infact had my honor restored and received key fragments for being honorable inbetween getting chat restricted and now. I really feel like i shouldn't have to explain this AGAIN, but i do, because someone such as yourself either cant be bothered to read before responding, or is incapable of comprehending the information that you do read. Im really not sure which is worse, but either way, you can shove your opinion up your a$$ since you cant even be bothered to read or comprehend the thread.

Chermorg3 votes

50 games and you were toxic for 3? That's still 5+% of your games you're toxic in.

I read this entire thread. Twice. Before commenting.

You seem unwilling to read what others are responding to you.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

50 games and you were toxic for 3? That's still 5+% of your games you're toxic in.

I read this entire thread. Twice. Before commenting.

You seem unwilling to read what others are responding to you.

Nope, still just the one game. Also, not even very toxic at all.

Chermorg2 votes

My bad - generally it takes 3, but considering you were not very far after your last punishment that's probably why the system only punished you on one.

Still, you returned to negative behavior right after being warned to clean up your act (30 games after your last punishment). You should be on your best behavior after a punishment, and if this was your best, then it's not good enough.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

My bad - generally it takes 3, but considering you were not very far after your last punishment that's probably why the system only punished you on one.

Still, you returned to negative behavior right after being warned to clean up your act (30 games after your last punishment). You should be on your best behavior after a punishment, and if this was your best, then it's not good enough.

well, according to the honor system my behavior was more than acceptable since my last punishment, other than this one game 50-60 games after my punishment, which isn't even very toxic at all.

Chermorg1 votes

Your honor getting unlocked is not the same as your honor level increasing.

I highly, highly doubt it increased in 30-50 games.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

Your honor getting unlocked is not the same as your honor level increasing.

I highly, highly doubt it increased in 30-50 games.

you can't read very well.

Chermorg1 votes

Did you actually reach honor level 2?

Or did you just get a key fragment, which are random at honor level 1 still and don't mean your behavior was any better?

Regardless, the honor system rewards good behavior. It's not a measurement of "how bad" you are. And you were put on notice that your behavior was bad by your chat restrictions, and you went back to your old behavior in 30-50 games. This is another warning to clean up your act.

You can keep fighting this and assuming everyone's wrong, or you can clean up your behavior and attitude. First option, you'll likely be permabanned soon. Second, you may have this account for a while.

Your choice.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

Did you actually reach honor level 2?

Or did you just get a key fragment, which are random at honor level 1 still and don't mean your behavior was any better?

Regardless, the honor system rewards good behavior. It's not a measurement of "how bad" you are. And you were put on notice that your behavior was bad by your chat restrictions, and you went back to your old behavior in 30-50 games. This is another warning to clean up your act.

You can keep fighting this and assuming everyone's wrong, or you can clean up your behavior and attitude. First option, you'll likely be permabanned soon. Second, you may have this account for a while.

Your choice.

I reached honor level 2. People like you really suck.

Chermorg1 votes

Cool. I'm happy for you.

Reaching another honor level in almost record time still doesn't absolve you from the fact you continued to be negative very shortly after your prior suspension.

BerylCrab1 votes

{quoted}

Cool. I'm happy for you.

Reaching another honor level in almost record time still doesn't absolve you from the fact you continued to be negative very shortly after your prior suspension.

you are a crappy person. i bid you ADIEU

zPOOPz1 votes

Totally missed the chance for "crabby" pun....

Friendly Ram1 votes

I know I'm a broken record but make up a support ticket and post rioters "answer" in a new post if you feel that strongly.

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