Bullying is the biggest problem in this game at the moment

SanKakU·9/21/2017, 2:30:26 PM·1 votes·806 views

My chat logs, with context from my memory.

Enjoy ripping me apart emotionally for getting reduced from honor level 4 to honor level 1. I bet these guys if they come to read this would be ecstatic to know that they got me banned.

[our jungler declares she doesn't know how to jungle, so I respond:] smite gromp [we get both enemies to almost dead, instead of killing off the high damage jhin, so I warn vayne:] you were supposed to kill jhin when you had the chance not poke the damn tank [vayne lets leona get away when she would have died for sure and then doesn't threaten a returning to lane jhin in the slightest, allowing me to die for free, so I get upset with her for good reason:] why don't you condemn him you mean you used it on leona? is that why she escaped? i said HIM oh nevermind you mean the wall my bad well i still think it's dumb you backed off immediately [i tell her my new play of trying to 'support' her:] from now on i'm doing NOTHING but protect you because i can't trust you to protect me [lux/quinn starts unloading on me with their rage:] if i was salty wouldn't i disconnect get real [vayne starts acting like i was the one being aggressive even though she used her condemn offensively so i ask her to stop being toxic:] vayne if you tell me something rude like that again i'm muting youi [she continues to be rude, acting like she did nothing wrong in either the game or in chat so i tell her i'm abandoning her:] you inted me into the enemy and told me not to be aggressive you can lane by youtself now [lux comes to top because i have no idea, just to kill time i guess and quinn complains that too many people are in her lane so i tell lux that i can help quinn solo, after all she had been complaining about nasus anyway:] lux it's cool i got this [quinn starts flaming the hell out of me trying to get me to leave the lane, where else would i even go? lux had already been flaming me harder than she was and vayne was not an option either:] unless you int me into their team hanging with you is a million times better than with vayne so shove it [she feeds me into the enemy nasus just because she doesn't want to 2vs2 the enemy jungler so then i complain:] if you right clicked him one more time instead of running away i would have killed him actually did you even right click him once??? [enemy starts flaming me so i respond:] telling her that nasus was an easy kill but she chose to let him go isn't raging [lux keeps on flaming me, i probably should've muted her ages ago but i was hoping she'd stop being so hostile, she only got worse as the game went on though, so i probably shouldn't have shamed her here, but it was the absolute trurth:] i'm not griefing, you are empowering your bad mannered club member vayne to behave badly bullying me [lux accuses me of being 12 years old so i respond:] becoming 13 years old or greater doesn't make you immune to bullying especially not online [i finally mute her so i notify her of that:] either way you got muted after that msg [it's time to give our respect to our opponents for completely destroying her team morale so i inform the team i'll be willing to concede:] it's twenty minutes now we can end it with 80 percent majority let's do it [now our jungler makes a comment that nasus or whoever on enemy team is a problem, so i simply reply that we shouldn't be worrying about the enemy, our team is doing more damage to their chance to win than the enemy:] not as big of a problem as our vayne and quinn [despite me attempting to help 2 different lanes, we have nothing to show for it because there is no cooperation, hence i followed up with this statement in an attempt to argue for a concede, so that maybe our jungler would concur and sway the others to comply:] we don't have any towers so zero map control [jungler/quinn starts complaining about not having vision so i respond while i'm returning to an empty bottom lane:] nowhere we could put vision where we wouldn't die for it [i get to enemy tower and beholden to my teammates:] notice to team vayne never touched her tower [and the shame:] and she left the lane [jungler starts crying again because her other 3 teammates are being afk assholes as usual watching other people do all the work instead of cooperating so i respond:] don't worry about it just mindlessly click around the map it's not like these 3 are ever going to teamwork [quinn snaps and finally goes full rage mode on me and asks me to play to win mother fucker which partially is censored so i joked about the fact she was censored and responded:] no, you mean play to win another game [quinn or jungler don't remember which is whining about my earlier comment about mindlessly clicking so i respond again:] as long as you're killing stuff it doesn't matter where you go is my point [still whining so i reply again, i suppose i should have muted them already by now, oh well:] not if teammates refuse to obey common sense [quinn is flaming me pretty hard again, i don't remember her comment but it was totally unreasonable, maybe something like i should be with the treacherous team instead of split pushing, as if i could do anything but 1 vs 5 and then watch in horror as my allies wait out my assist timer again before thinking about killing anyone so of course i'm pretty angry and finally mute her:] i'm the only one that's bothered to put significant damage on a tower. you don't get to flame me quinn [i go ahead and mute our jungler finally because by now a lot of time has gone by and the game should have ended at 15 but it's like 25 minutes plus IIRC so i tell 'em i'm clocking out of team chat completely although i guess i should have done it long ago:] diana if these are your friends you're much better off solo [a few more messages to the enemy because there's no one else to talk to:] can you quit playing with my team and end it?
i know you could have by now they are never going to surrender they have too much fun flaming me while i hve them muted

We need a way to know from the start that we're with a group of players. HotS has this, and it unfortunately only shows up in the loading screen, but at least it definitely shows up at some point, so you can just screenshot each loading screen and review it while you're playing.

If we had such a system in LoL, then we'd be able to decide to do things such as: well if one player offends me and he has 2-3 buddies, I guess I'll just mute the lot of them and do everything I can to be a team player so that they don't get even more mad at me than they already are.

IME, reasoning with people is hit or miss, but chances are if one person is worth complaining about, the entire group is going to go stark raving mad if you dare to mention anything. In HotS, I can just mute the entire group of players so that I don't have to read the toxic comments in the first place, as soon as one of their kind starts intentionally throwing the game. But I can't do that in LoL, and it annoys me because it leads to situations like this where I got banned for apparently fighting the good keyboard warrior fight for too long.

58 Comments

LukeTheSheppy9/21/2017, 2:51:32 PM5 votes

smite gromp

you were supposed to kill jhin when you had the chance not poke the damn tank

why don't you condemn him

you mean you used it on leona?

is that why she escaped?

i said HIM

oh nevermind you mean the wall my bad

well i still think it's dumb you backed off immediately

from now on i'm doing NOTHING but protect you because i can't trust you to protect me

if i was salty wouldn't i disconnect

get real

vayne if you tell me something rude like that again i'm muting youi

you inted me into the enemy and told me not to be aggressive

you can lane by youtself now

lux it's cool i got this

unless you int me into their team hanging with you is a million times better than with vayne so shove it

if you right clicked him one more time

instead of running away i would have killed him

actually did you even right click him once???

telling her that nasus was an easy kill but she chose to let him go isn't raging

i'm not griefing, you are empowering your bad mannered club member vayne to behave badly

bullying me

becoming 13 years old or greater doesn't make you immune to bullying especially not online

either way you got muted after that msg

it's twenty minutes now we can end it with 80 percent majority let's do it

not as big of a problem as our vayne and quinn

we don't have any towers so zero map control

nowhere we could put vision where we wouldn't die for it

notice to team vayne never touched her tower

and she left the lane

don't worry about it just mindlessly click around the map it's not like these 3 are ever going to teamwork

no, you mean play to win another game

as long as you're killing stuff it doesn't matter where you go is my point

not if teammates refuse to obey common sense

i'm the only one that's bothered to put significant damage on a tower. you don't get to flame me quinn

diana if these are your friends you're much better off solo

can you quit playing with my team and end it?

i know you could have by now

they are never going to surrender

they have too much fun flaming me while i hve them muted

There. OP, next time, post it without your "context". No one particularly cares for it.

Colgate Gator9/21/2017, 3:02:19 PM4 votes

It's always a major red flag when an OP decides to put "helpful annotations" in their chat logs, because it means even they read it and were like "Well, shit."

HalcyonDweller9/21/2017, 4:42:10 PM3 votes

I can see why you would be frustrated with your teammates, I would be too in that situation.

I've linked below a more in-depth discussion that may help you in dealing with awful teammates in the future. And remember, retaliating is never going to work.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/bv2m7fx4-feeders-and-toxic-teammates-got-you-down-this-may-help

But also, you've got to look at this another way. When teammates are pissed off at you they are not going to listen to you. So if you want them to listen to you then you need to hold your tongue and curb your temper.

When the vayne screwed up that fight, your reaction in chat angered her and angered your teammates and then they took that anger out on you.

What would have worked better would be to say something like, "Next fight lets focus the Jhin, I think that will work better."

By not singling the vayne out, and by focusing on what can be done in the future (instead of assigning blame about something) you greatly reduce the likelihood that they will react poorly.

e46 Fanatic9/21/2017, 3:32:13 PM3 votes

bullying is the #1 problem in this game right now.

EvilDustMan9/21/2017, 2:33:56 PM2 votes

Can you post them together without the editing.

zPOOPz9/21/2017, 3:15:25 PM2 votes

Man, you go from being somewhat helpful to downright obnoxious/toxic. I'll accept your first half to be neutral to somewhat positive, but your last half is just downright toxic. Nothing other people do justify your toxicity. NOTHING because the mute function exists. If you got punished for this, I would say it is well deserved.

Also, your "context" doesn't matter because it is purely from YOUR singular perspective. The only time we would consider context is when you have the EXACT chat logs of other people. Otherwise, your "context" are just conjectures and making it confusing for people to read your log.

This Is Your Dad9/21/2017, 8:09:34 PM2 votes

I think it'd be cool to see who was premade so I could cope with group bullying. Sometimes a whole team will treat me like crap in an aram game and I find out based on clan tags and after game chat that it was a 4 man abusing the last guy.

Guren2759/21/2017, 5:59:19 PM1 votes

m8 you're toxic as fuck. It's so frustrating to have someone whine and refuse to play their role in the game properly because you've made one mistake.

This seems about as bad as people refusing to group because someone stole a kill from them.

Ashen Rider9/21/2017, 6:43:44 PM1 votes

Get good?

Squidwards House9/22/2017, 1:08:42 AM1 votes

how many read the chatlogs? because with all that useless bs "context" that noone needs and noone cares about, its unreadable to me.

Sorin Alucard9/21/2017, 2:50:41 PM1 votes

You can mute all in League too. You were negative and equally annoying in your chat examples. If you're going to claim being in the right you'd better take the high road instead of complaining and throwing out petty comments. It doesn't matter what they said. Mute them if they're negative. Your tilting is your fault. You aren't excused because they were "bullying" you. Lol thats the silliest shit I hear on the boards. You involve yourself in a pointless conversation with pointless comments that won't help you win and then whine about what was said. If you can't stay mentally resilient and not give into the typing then don't type just shut them up and focus on you.

They're strangers. You're a stranger to them. They can't see your face. They'll prolly never meet you. You shouldn't let them weigh on you enough to get into a fight. You set yourself up for a more unpleasant experience than you were already being forced into. Only thing you can control is yourself

And I'm telling you this after my last game had a trist/nami combo bickering until trist decided to sell her items and run down mid lane asking in All Chat to be banned and "you're welcome for the win <3". I also have made these same chat mistakes and been baited into heated type wars, so I also was just as silly in the past. The only thing we can do is grow and try to help others.

js

Lastly, knowing who is grouped in queue even without club names is a good idea in general.