So riot are the bad guys when they ban your toxic streamers ?

Yi Bencheikh··120 votes·5,785 views

''ohh no my fav just got banned because he int feed in 3 games in row oh omg riot are bad guys fuck rito i hate you rito ''

Toxic is toxic

Riot doesn't care who and what started it , they almost don't care about the reason so you are telling me it is okay to ban a non streamer player but a pro streaming with thousands of views streaming how he is int feeding is not ? what the hell is this logic

84 Comments

MorgManBasher13 votes

Shaclone also gets trolled a lot by random solo que jerks banning his champion, I don't really have pity on the people he trolls. Not going to disagree with the ban either though.

DrCyanide41 votes

They troll him to see him react. How often do you see someone like Voyboy get trolled? Never? Because he just rolls with it and doesn't give them a reason to try and troll him in the first place.

General Esdeath 39 votes

"You fucked my mom? Hey thanks for keeping her company man, I was worried she would get lonely after I moved out!"

Demented Gag2 votes

"You fucked my mom? Oh, I'm not gonna kill you, I'm just gonna hurt you really, really bad. I also gonna hurt those 4 random guys who just happened to live close by."

General Esdeath 3 votes

[slayer-jinx-unamused] what are you even talking about?

Sahn Uzal2 votes

He's quoting the joke(r) from Suicide Squad.

http://i.imgur.com/1fnPs3O.jpg?1

Finn Teh Human2 votes

I don't think what Shaclone did was okay, but on the other hand if people constantly banned your main champ when you have it selected how would you feel? Like if people saw he was gonna troll and feed his ass off would they SERIOUSLY CHOOSE A TEAMMATE LIKE THAT?? I'd never ban a pick because I DON'T want someone to do that.

DrCyanide7 votes

I would (and have) act my age, shrug it off, and pick my backup champion. I've accidently banned my Champion before. It really makes no difference if it was you, your allies, or your enemies that banned your Champion, the result is you moving on and picking your backup.

Finn Teh Human2 votes

Again, I didn't say that what Shaclone did was okay. And no shit sherlock EVERYONE has had that at some point. But if you've watched his stream/videos you see he WAS trolling by his teammates a lot by them banning Shaco. It doesn't just happen every once in a blue moon for him, it happens on a constant basis.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Maybe because he is a shitty human being ingame on a constant basis? He is toxic and ints since idk 4 seasons? While not even being good? Always rushing into high elo at the beginning and sucking halfway through ofc they get pissed off and also want to see him rageand troll.

Finn Teh Human1 votes

I haven't watched him for long but a lot of people said he use to be cool. But I guess everyone only notices toxicity.

DrCyanide4 votes

It happens to him on a regular basis because of how he handles it.

Streamer gets trolled -> streamer reacts -> people see the reaction and get a chuckle out of it -> those people troll him to get more of the same reaction

It's a cycle of his own creation, same as Dunkey had going. They chose to make their channel feature them blowing up over these things, and that's what happens to them as a result. It's the natural byproduct of their popularity and how they handle things.

This is why I contrasted it to Voyboy, who is another popular streamer but doesn't rise to the bait, ending the cycle before it starts.

Finn Teh Human1 votes

But I'm talking about the people who ban Shaco. His teammates were jerks for doing that, and if you don't want someone trolling then obviously you don't do anything to piss them off. Not saying he isn't doing it for views but it's not like he's just doing it to do it.

DrCyanide5 votes

They were jerks because Shaclone's behavior begs people to be a jerk to him.

It's a cycle, you can't blame the people banning Shaco without first blaming Shaclone. By his own admission he said he could have just gone Wukong, but he wanted to "teach them a lesson", but by getting himself banned he rewarded the trolls, giving them exactly what they wanted instead of starving and discouraging them.

If it had been some other Shaco one-trick his teammates would have ignored him. This was people looking for either their 20 seconds of fame or looking to push his buttons. They got what they wanted because of his videos.

BastionKross1 votes

I almost feel bad for streamers like that. If they ever wanted to just sit down and have a fun stream of them playing a game, their fans would troll the hell out of them regardless. They've attracted a certain audience and rewarded a certain behavior, to the point where they really couldn't break away even if they wanted too.

Imagine what the average fan mentality of those guys must be like: "I don't care what game he's playing, I just want to find out what new things we can do to ruin his experience in that game!".

Personally, that's not the kind of people I'd want to surround myself with. Those tend to be the kind of people that lead to SWAT teams breaking down your door and the destruction of your personal and professional life if they ever get a hold of your address or where you work.

Rikari1 votes

Voyboy isn't a one trick pony and yasuo is a casual ban

Darf Rakki13 votes

This is how I feel about Tyler1. Honestly I think he's a more entertaining streamer since his ban from League and I hope it never gets lifted. Not only did he ruin hundreds (22 permabanned accounts!) of games for other people, but he "inspired" thousands of his viewers to ruin tens of thousands of games for others in a domino affect. His well deserved ban made him a better streamer, and he would devolve back into a raging troll if it was lifted. He's also blamed Riot for his ban multiple times on stream instead of taking responsibility himself.

Streamers should be held to a higher standard than most of us. Thousands of people will watch them live, and mostly younger kids, but sadly even some adults, will see them as role models. They have to set an example and if the example is negative, they should be removed immediately.

Heavensflame863 votes

I agree. A lot of these guys don't realize the number of kids that watch them and emulate their patterns of thought and action. And Tyler1 is a seriously disturbed person (my opinion). I've dealt with hundreds of people like him in League, and that's putting it mildly. I'm all for people streaming, especially if its for a living, but you have to hold yourself to a certain standard if you do.

Deep Terror Nami11 votes

Did another streamer get banned recently?

Lauchmelder1 votes

Didn't Shaclone get (ban)hammered?

Tegash10 votes

Apparently it was short-lived.

Build is item 3070 item 3070 item 3070 item 3070 item 3070 item 3070 "Ohhhhhh your family get cancer... Kill yourself..........."

Tell me how his ban was a bad thing tbh?

Lauchmelder5 votes

Well he is a Shaco onetrick. Those guys just want to see the world burn.

LordSirChipmunk6 votes

Brand and Annie mains want to see the world burn even more. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Spice POWAH5 votes

"report brand for flaming, trundle for trolling and teemo for being toxic"

aspects11 votes

shhhhh dont tell them!

Yi Bencheikh3 votes

early 2017 meteos inting and so is shaclone ik i am abit late for that but just wanted to start a thread about why would people cry about such things

Spaceman5pff4 votes

Now that C9 found a seemingly solid replacement for Meteos (homegrown nonetheless) Riot will probably be willing to ban him if he keeps up the toxicity.

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

Have there been Meteos inting cases other than the drunk 1-33 game?

Yi Bencheikh2 votes

yep vs dyrus too

elduris5 votes

Yeah I've never understood this type of doublethink. It's almost like people hold two conflicting beliefs and can somehow reconcile them.

G2 HandiCAPS4 votes
  1. They have streaming as their job, so that makes it less appropriate, but then again toxic is toxic as you said, and I totally agree with u
  2. The sad thing is, Shaclone didn't used to flame like that, and intentionally feed and be toxic and only play one lane so that's why I feel sad about him getting ban, not because he got ban, but how he changed, he used to have enjoyable content, that I frequently watched but now he has become one filthy inting noob, it's just sad
  3. Shaclone went inting once atleast because his teammates banned the champ he wanted to play, which I think is a dickmove,which he obviously did intentionally and later wrote "Hi reddit", and that should also be punished unless u really have a good reason, even apologize for it even tho u dont mean it, so I kind of understand why he went inting that game HOWEVER a player with that high elo, SHOULD be able to play a variety of champions and is expected to play a variety of champions. So, I do agree with you, but I also agree with Shaclone, and do feel bad for him as of what he have become now, and I personally think it's a meme, atleast the unban Tyler1 because people enjoy watching him screaming and raging, but also because it's become a meme, thats what I'd say.
Timethief4934 votes

Well if streaming is their Job they should watch Out even more about what they do

Unvictus5 votes

Precisely! If someone works retail they can't curse at customers just cause it's "their job".

G2 HandiCAPS4 votes

I didnt defend him, I know that they should watch out for what they show and do on stream, but still u should get the point that people might be mad if they favorite streamer is banned...

venomous frost3 votes

who's banned?

The only thing that's sad is that most pro players get away with being toxic and feeding on stream (meteos)

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

Eh, Master and Challenger tends to be a different environment entirely. Considering everyone tends to know one another (considering how often they play together), I'm curious as to how many people actually bothered reporting him.

God knows that Dyrus found the entire thing hilarious in the two games he played with him (once with, ones against). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx9aU8IQNdw

venomous frost4 votes

That has more to do that challenger players don't really care about the game outcome as they're already at the highest level of play, and lower elo players really care about their rank. Just my opinion.

Still doesn't change the facts, why is a bronze int feeding banned, but meteos isn't? The bronze might be drunk and funny too

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

That is exactly it. The environment is different and certain behaviours are more acceptable than they would be at lower ELOs.

Many high-tier players occasionally do series (i.e. A-Z) or play champions requested by their viewers even if it isn't the proper choice. They are rather used to odd occurrences during their games.

As such, many of them probably didn't even register Meteos feeding a few games while drunk as an issue to actually care about. Rather, some just considered it amusing rather than something they wanted to be punished.

Like I said, I'm curious as to how many of the players in the games Meteos played while drunk actually reported him for it. If people weren't reporting him, I don't see any reason why he would be punished for it.

venomous frost1 votes

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Like I said, I'm curious as to how many of the players in the games Meteos played while drunk actually reported him for it. If people weren't reporting him, I don't see any reason why he would be punished for it.

That's honestly the "if nobody saw it, it didnt happen" mentality Which is wrong in my book

But whatever, it is what it is.

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

I wouldn't really say this is considered "if nobody saw it, it didn't happen".

I'd say it is closer to "those affected by it didn't consider it an issue".

Different groups have different customs and ideas of permitted behaviour. What is perfectly allowable in one groups/culture/region may not be in others and vice-versa.

LXII9 votes

No it isn't. It's night and day.

You're at your friend's house, they spill soda on you, you say "I'm gonna kill you man!". You're at the police station, you look and officer dead in the eyes and you say "I'm gonna kill you man!".

Should both of those get you some jail time? No, because one is clearly in jest among friends. If the other 9 people in the game don't see fit to report there is no reason to take action.

Junkο2 votes

But there were people in the game that wanted Meteos to be reported? Like right at the start of the video there is one.

King LeBong2 votes

Meteos got away with it because Riot and everyone on his team and against him understood that it was an edge case, Meteos may "troll" in a sense sometimes but he's not an inter, I promise you at most 1 person reported him out of those games. High elo players really don't care to report most of the time, they play with the same people over and over again.

You don't get banned or punished at all really for one time problems, at most you'll get an e-mail warning that such a thing can cause you to be permabanned.

venomous frost1 votes

I wasnt really talking about him being drunk in the first case, someone else brought it up

There are multiple cases of him flaming his teammates

NastyMcOutplay1 votes

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who's banned?

The only thing that's sad is that most pro players get away with being toxic and feeding on stream (meteos)

he didnt int

False 0013 votes

Yeah many people support people like Shaclone and Tyler 1 and im guilty of that as well. But in reality I would be pissed if I ran into that behavior in my game. They rightfully deserve bans and no one should say otherwise because if you ran into a player like that in your game you would want him to be banned too.

Diana hole1 votes

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Paquay7 votes

Wait a second... aren't you the clown that was bragging about having a 160 IQ on another post?? Rofl rofl rofl rofl.

Your (intentionally misspelled so you understand it) so smart!

Diana hole1 votes

Do not speak to me, you peasant. You envy my high IQ

Hardstuck G49 votes

As if someone with a 160 IQ would ever think that someone used the wrong form of your in their title. Get off your high horse kid, you aren't above anyone, no one else is a peasant, even if you do have a high IQ.

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