64% winrate Morde support 189 games

GigglesO·Apr 16, 2016·15 votes·1,094 views

Allied TF that gave up before the game even started. "You got carried"

All 121 games out of 189? Come on tf, no one simply gets "carried" that many games.

5 minute mark hits, and tf is afk...

Really? The worst part about this is that he isn't gonna get punished, he didn't say anything that terribly abusive, and he didn't just hit alt f4, he just walked around base and waited for them to push in. Could we have a report option for people that troll like that, that their game play patterns of trolling might just be hard to pick up on? We could have a few dedicated rioters to just spectate players like that, and get bans out appropriately.

it isn't any fun having a 4v5 because an ally thinks you lost because of an off meta pick... and a teammate that doesn't feel like contributing.

35 Comments

LostFr0stApr 16, 20168 votes

They track the movements of all champs on the map, when they look into the game they'll know he was just walking around spawn.

MeilinIIApr 16, 20167 votes

That's already reportable as griefing. Just make a comment and report for 'unsportsmanlike'

FrankerXApr 16, 20161 votes

and still we never heard of anyone on the boards who said "i got banned for trolling"

its like reporting someone for "bad player" (which got removed ik) it does nothing and we never heard of anyone who got banned for it.

SarutobiApr 16, 20161 votes

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and still we never heard of anyone on the boards who said "i got banned for trolling"

its like reporting someone for "bad player" (which got removed ik) it does nothing and we never heard of anyone who got banned for it.

You should never judge it based on complaints on the board. People get ban for trolling, they probably just don't come on the forum to complain. Maybe because they are mature enough to know why they go ban, or maybe they just move on to the next account!

franticFurballApr 17, 20162 votes

You should never judge it based on complaints on the board.

Wrong, we absolutely should.

Wanna know why? Because Rito doesn't give us any other data to work with, so we use what we got.

If they want us to believe in their system, then its their responsability to make it more transparent. If they don't do so, people are 100% within their rights to work with what they got.

GigglesOApr 17, 20161 votes

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Wrong, we absolutely should.

Wanna know why? Because Rito doesn't give us any other data to work with, so we use what we got.

If they want us to believe in their system, then its their responsability to make it more transparent. If they don't do so, people are 100% within their rights to work with what they got.

I 100% agree, I almost never hear about players getting ban hammered for anything but verbal abuse. With how many people I see afk and troll regularly it seems like players don't take the offence seriously, because they feel like they system isn't going to pick them up for it. I've actually had a few players tell me that they don't care, because the system can't pick up on them not participating.

dapositivevikingApr 18, 20163 votes

i guess the data is skewed by who is willing to complain on the boards

o Maui oApr 18, 20162 votes

95% of the people who come to complain on the boards believe that they shouldn't have been banned. That's why it's almost always going to be about chat, because the people who were intentionally feeding or walking around base already know exactly why they were punished, but a lot of people who were punished for chat think they shouldn't have been for whatever reason.

SarutobiApr 17, 20161 votes

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Wrong, we absolutely should.

Wanna know why? Because Rito doesn't give us any other data to work with, so we use what we got.

If they want us to believe in their system, then its their responsability to make it more transparent. If they don't do so, people are 100% within their rights to work with what they got.

I guess i should have worded that differently. They shouldnt always judge based on the complaints on this board. Dont get me wrong some people's complaints are valid, but people who are complaining just for the sake of complaining and offer no alternative, or reasoning for said complaint shouldnt really be considered since its obvious that they are only here just to bitch and moan.

franticFurballApr 17, 20161 votes

They shouldnt always judge based on the complaints on this board.

Wording it differently doesn't change the core problem:

People have no other choice than to comment on this matter based on what they find on the boards, because there is no other source of information available.

people who are complaining just for the sake of complaining and offer no alternative, or reasoning for said complaint shouldnt really be considered since its obvious that they are only here just to bitch and moan.

Why people write is secondary. We talk about the validity of available information here, not about peoples motivations.

KVbqbFsC8eApr 16, 20163 votes

He'll get a low priority que, but absolutely nothing beyond that. Riot doesn't care about that kind of stuff nearly as much as they do when it comes to chat.

GigglesOApr 16, 20162 votes

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He'll get a low priority que, but absolutely nothing beyond that. Riot doesn't care about that kind of stuff nearly as much as they do when it comes to chat.

That is exactly it. They really crack down on people that are verbally abusive, but they don't really crack down on the mentally abusive players that actually troll.

StickyOctopiApr 16, 20163 votes

Let's ban kids for trash talking, which they allow players to do because of free chat. But let's not ban the kids who actually ruin the game.

#RITOGAMES2016

Hyrum GraffApr 16, 20162 votes

Report for unsportsmanlike and include a description in the comment section. They'll get him.

If you didn't do that, you can make a support ticket now and do it in retrospect.

Azrael JiracoApr 18, 20162 votes

I stopped floating Morde in champ select because my team kept banning him. Stupid Plat ELO!

Ashe JungleApr 16, 20161 votes

Ik that feel...

Granted my winrate isn't that high, but this is because I'm bad at jungling on my main too, not because of the pick.

RenascentApr 16, 20161 votes

But that Morde support though.

How do you get your laner to use your W heal? Hardly anyone knows how to play with a Morde.

GigglesOApr 16, 20161 votes

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But that Morde support though.

How do you get your laner to use your W heal? Hardly anyone knows how to play with a Morde.

You wait until they get caught, and then you double pop it really really fast.

Azrael JiracoApr 18, 20162 votes

No one expects the W heal. Plus the Krug heal instead of an unwanted base trip.

GigglesOApr 18, 20162 votes

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+1

No one expects the W heal. Plus the Krug heal instead of an unwanted base trip.

Someone understands the krug heal hue hue hue, it is such a great trick. It is also super underestimated. The storm raiders might also be a good suggestion, I just haven't had much luck with it, seeing how either I can't get the second q off, or if I get the second I almost always get the third.

A LiberalApr 16, 20161 votes

Honestly I really like playing Morde but I only play him in duo's because my laner just gives up. I remember one game in particular where I went Morde ADC and Leona (You know, the best support for morde besides maybe Blitz) refused to support me and instead went top lane while flaming me for dying while trying to 2v1 farm bot.

La BarbotteApr 16, 20161 votes

the moment you realise sheeple only go by the pros, laughing at me for picking urgot to fuck assassins since i even started playing back in season 3, but when pros do it it ok, lol

ZacsterApr 16, 20161 votes

Yes please.

Kim Chi VendorApr 16, 20161 votes

Your fault for playing morde supp, that's going to tilt a lot of people. If you can't have fun while tilting people play something more meta.

GigglesOApr 16, 20161 votes

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that's going to tilt a lot of people

So here is the thing about "tilt"

Tilt, verb ~ "move or cause to move into a sloping position."

So what is being moved into a sloped position?

The word you are looking for is enrage. Honestly, there is no such thing as being "tilted" its called getting angry and then raging, or sucking a giant D*** for no reason other than you think you have to try even harder than you did before.

If you can't have fun while tilting people play something more meta.

Who said I didn't have fun while "tilting" people. Maybe you didn't write that sentence correctly?

Kim Chi VendorApr 16, 20162 votes

Since we are being pedantic, tilt is known vernacular and a much better description than enrage. Not everyone talking trash is enraged or upset in any way.

If you have fun tilting people with your lame support play why are you in here complaining when someone did it back to you?

GigglesOApr 17, 20161 votes

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Not everyone talking trash is enraged or upset in any way.

Oh really? Because I thought the only time you trash talked "tilted" was because of your team doing dumb stuff, or the enemy was beating you down really hard.

Azrael JiracoApr 18, 20162 votes

A copy and paste of the OP's lolking page should satisfy non-believers. If they continue to be enraged, then the OP is not the problem.

BídoofApr 16, 20161 votes

Yeah that sucks. I recently came to appreciate the lack of flame in mid diamond ^^

ltmetalApr 17, 20161 votes

Can you please tell my your runes/masteries/item build? I've played Suppordekaiser once and felt right off the bat that it couldn't work, but I want it to work so bad.

GigglesOApr 17, 20161 votes

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Can you please tell my your runes/masteries/item build? I've played Suppordekaiser once and felt right off the bat that it couldn't work, but I want it to work so bad.

Runes are pretty easy, they are all hp/level. If you feel uncomfortable with that, just take anything tanky. (Not every player plays safe enough for per level runes)

Masteries are also pretty easy. (turns out I've even been using the wrong page for the last 3 games) Pretty much just get the runic armor, insight, swiftness, and strength of ages.

Onto the difficult part, build path. You are pretty Much pigeon holed into a combination of a few items, and each game is a slightly different variation of the same game. (Relic shield into targons for starters) item 3047 / item 3111 Ad Heavy, or cc (non-knockup) heavy. The choice is still almost always

You are trapped into basically buying item 3116 (but I've found out that it works best as a second or third item)

Now comes the tricky part. You basically have a decision between item 3512 item 3065 item 3075

Ask your self, ap heavy? Example Ezreal get item 3065 Are they mixed damage? Example Zyra Graves , get a item 3512 . Honestly if mid/top is losing hard enough, just buy it first, and place it behind a mid/top tower, it will help hold their lane.

IF they are both ad, rush a item 3075 . Example Janna Lucian . Spoiler alert! Shields return thornmail damage, so you can actually be full hp, and take no damage, while returning damage. The goal here is with item 3047 and is that if your adc leaves (hopefully not the game), its now a farm lane for you, and if they fight you, just fight the 2v1 and get a kill. (Between all the scaling hp, and strength of ages you should be pretty bulky) Thornmail also does a rather large chunk of damage against non lifesteal adc's. Protip this can be really hard to do against Vayne and Kalista .

For the last two items (assuming you don't build a zzrot, it is optional) I really personally like a combination of item 3143 item 3157 item 3102 item 3001 very rarely item 3053 (high burst, high mixed damage)

TLDR Items item 3047 item 3065 item 3075 item 3116 item 3143 item 3102 Need more damage, build item 3157 item 3001 instead of

Also, the only other real tip I can give you, is that you want to get as much farm as possible, but this is difficult as you don't want to really steal farm either. Whenever you see something you can clear that will make the enemy lose minions, take the minion wave and push it under tower. If your adc leaves lane, take the minions you can. If your team wants to push for mid tower (and they don't need you) while top has a really big wave, farm it. The whole goal is to get to unkillable as fast as possible.

Also, your team might complain about the lack of a sightstone. Honestly, I made it to plat 5-4 on supportakaiser, you don't need a sightstone, just keep track of the enemy's movement, it is almost the same every game.

To top it all off, you are also really weak levels 1-3, after that you can get really bulky, and I prefer to max W (bigger heal, remember full heal on pets and jungle camps). Just remember, sometimes your adc needs to learn a lesson about not getting caught. There is NO REASON TO FEED 2 KILLS when only one of you needs to die.

I understand this is a pretty savage support method, but to become an unkillable juggernaut, sometimes you just need to to what is right for you. (Including sneaking as much farm while your adc is out of lane as possible)

LAST TIP. When you hit 6, start bothering your jungler for any possible dragons that you can get. If you get a dragon take it mid or bot, and push it in as fast as possible (taking farm too). Dragon will try and attack things that aren't the tower. The trick here is to keep pressing R (with your mouse hovered) on the target that you want dragon to attack. Dragon has a global leash range. You don't have to actually be in mid (or bot), to have it attack mid (or bot). You can back (to base), and still send your dragon in to kill a tower.

Just some other things (not trying to insult intelligence) to note with morde, a game isn't always as "lost" as your team says it is. Ask them to focus the enemy that is most fed, and try to get a ghost of them. One game I got a graves ghost, and two shot their ap mid because of how fed graves was. Your ghost can and will turn around games. The other thing to note, you are Morde, 99% of the time you won't be able to run, so just try to stand and fight if at all possible.

Good luck!

Azrael JiracoApr 18, 20162 votes

I have a recommendation for you. Try it in normals first; Stormraider's Surge. It is so easy to get off, short cooldown and grants you many 3rd Q's you wouldn't normally get.