Explain the logic

TSM Resonance·Feb 29, 2016·5 votes·882 views

So, I queue up for a game in bronze 2. I put my preferences as top/mid. I get into champion select, bans go through, I lock Lulu top. Immediately I get flamed for picking Lulu top and everyone claims she isn't a top laner. I try to explain to them, yes she is, I have played her many times in both solo lanes. _ Meanwhile_

"Support" locks in Shaco. Nothing is said, by me, or my team.

Get into game "Support" Shaco starts Dorans Ring, two pots.

This time, I say "hey you might want a support item like spell theifs or targons."

It was at this time that the entire team called me toxic.

19 Comments

IqqiFeb 29, 20163 votes

Another reason why I /ignore all as soon as possible.

You could play Janna top and your whole team could report you. Wont matter the system doesn't count your pick as something wrong. Can't verify the report. Playing what you want where you want is completely up to you and is not punishable.

I had a teemo jungle last week who as you could imagine couldn't clear clear the jungle. Nothing against the rules from Riot's standpoint. Play what you want. Where you want.

SmokedAlmondsFeb 29, 20162 votes

It is pretty simple. Almost everyone I have run into hate non-standard picks. They called you toxic for your pick, not for that statement.

TSM ResonanceFeb 29, 20162 votes

But Lulu is a top laner.

TwigglesFeb 29, 20161 votes

But then so is Braum, since I play him there successfully on occasion.

Just because it works doesn't make it standard. Lulu top or mid CAN be very strong. However, it is not her standard position.

Similarly, Viktor can be played support. That does not make 'him' a support.

Also, not defending those other player's actions with this post. Just trying to explain the difference between top laners and champs that 'can' be played top. Hope I helped.

TSM ResonanceFeb 29, 20162 votes

You do realize Lulu is a top pick in the LCS, LCK, and LPL due to her flexibility and utility that she brings to the table.

Not only "can" she work. She does. She is a highly sought after pick in the metagame.

TwigglesFeb 29, 20161 votes

Regardless, most players see her as a support. I couldn't possibly care less about what people do in the LCS and other pro scenes. I'm not faulting you for your pick, as I actually like getting Lulu on my team no matter where she is.

What Challengers do is irrelevant. Lulu's standard lane is support, and so people expect her to be support. Again, not saying Lulu top is bad. Only that calling Lulu top standard is incorrect.

SmokedAlmondsFeb 29, 20162 votes

I am not at all talking about how strong lulu is in any position. Most people see lulu as a support and will label anyone taking her elsewhere as a troll.

coeurloyalFeb 29, 20164 votes

Lulu is definitely a solid top pick, though. Half the strength behind Lulu is her flex status between top/sup/mid. If anything, picking Shaco anywhere is flame-worthy.

Dominick DestineFeb 29, 20162 votes

Ignore function exists.

If they are toxic, report after game and move on.

TSM ResonanceFeb 29, 20162 votes

It's not that they're toxic, it's their refusal to listen to any new ideas.

Now, one might attempt to call me a hypocrite seeing as I mentioned the Shaco "support"; however, I do not have a problem with off meta picks, provided they are trying to win with their pick, and they are playing the role dynamic queue has assigned them.

Dominick DestineFeb 29, 20161 votes

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It's not that they're toxic

Then you have no valid complaint.

If they are toxic, report and move on to the next game... if not, stop being a feline.

TSM ResonanceFeb 29, 20161 votes

Yes I do. You're just as ignorant as them. It's infuriating that people as passive aggressive as you play this game.

Dominick DestineFeb 29, 20161 votes

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Yes I do.

Then you have no valid complaint.

You're just as ignorant as them.

Ironically, you are ignorant about the word ignorant.

You are misusing it because of your extremely limited lexicon.... repeating it because it sounds 'good' but no, no one here is "ignorant" nor is the community ignorant. You are simply a complete feline that wants total capitulation to your leftist/feminist nonsense.

If someone is being toxic, report them and move on. That is all that needs to be done.

FrankerXFeb 29, 20161 votes

besides the fact that in my opinion mages will never be top laners (dude what the lcs plays doesnt mean it works in bronze... lcs plays lee sin since he was released, give this champ to a bronze player and all he does is feeding for sure)

but you cant report someone for the champ he plays and where he plays it. as long as he doesnt go troll-builds or feeds on purpose everything is fine. the reason why in ranked i ignore my whole team.

alasarcherFeb 29, 20161 votes

Thats because u kinda were hypocrite. If you dont appreciate people telling u that your champ doesnt belong in your prefered lane, then you shouldnt really be telling others what to buy/ not to buy. Also Lulu is great top laner vs Juggernauts

Iron Throne KingFeb 29, 20161 votes

leftist/**feminist **nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

Do you not believe that Men and Women should have equal rights? If not then you are indeed ignorant. I think you need to look up the word feminism again or the true definition behind it

Also toxicity does not equate to grieving, the premise of his question was that is there rules set in place to counteract passive aggressive forms of grieving which is extremely clear if you can comprehend the context.

Also surprisingly enough, there isn't. There is nothing put in place for people picking off meta picks/passive aggresively trolling in League. It can be made to look like a "bad game" even if you are master tier, there is nothing in place from stopping someone going Shaco support and intentionally missing all his moves.

TSM ResonanceMar 1, 20161 votes

That feel when your thread derails into a feminist thread.