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Riot's report system and the recent rise of toxicity

doiminat0r3600··3 votes·802 views

We all know that the int feeders and the flamers and the people who just don't cooperate at all are at a rise again.

Riot's system puts less stress on a report from someone who reports many people (regardless if the reports are deserved or not). When less emphasis is put on a report, the less likely it is to get looked at and the person banned.

Why does riot not give everyone a voice? Because people like to report for no reason. Lot's of games, poeple get reported for being bad but they can't report it as "lack of skill" because that was removed. Instead, they just get reported as flaming or feeding because they have a lot of deaths. The reports that these people submit of "feeders" are considered throwaway.

But what if this actually happens? What if you go into multiple games and have multiple allies that either AFK, int, or flame? Can you ban them all? Can you possibly see that all of the people that have ruined the past half hour of your life be punished? Nope. Because the report system is fucking broken.

21 Comments

Lexyy2 votes

Riot has to understand that in low elo there really is a reason to report someone every single game.

doiminat0r36002 votes

Riot needs to understand that multiple games in a row are being ruined. This isn't happening to just a few of us. It's happening to atleast half of us.

AdeBug1 votes

this soem days are filled with feeders, they just come in a batch, game after game. am i supposed to pick and choose? they all fed and ignored pings and suggestions I even put in my report that the chat will clearly show the inter talking in all chat about their position, and nothing

Lexyy1 votes

I totally agree.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

That is not actually how it works. It puts less weight on people who repeatedly report others for no valid reason.

There is a pretty big difference. Also people tend to confuse this with the myth that number of reports has any effect on chance of punishment. It does not.

doiminat0r36002 votes

But yet, these people that get reported for valid reason never get banned.

How come there is an increase in toxicity in the community in the past months? Because reports aren't working.

I just got out of an ARAM game where our MF sat in base for 10 minutes waiting for gold. She came back into lane underleveled and had no gold or kills to support herself. She was the reason we lost (in my opinion) because she was sitting in base for an extended period of time when they took both of our towers. I was then flamed for spam pinging her and asking where she was. I reported the person who flamed me and the MF. I bet neither will get banned. Why? Because it doesn't work.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

How do you know they dont get banned?

You only receive a notification for certain types of reports, and if your report was the final one that lead to a punishment (one game is not enough to receive punishment for most things).

doiminat0r36001 votes

I know because the numbers of people I see in game that are toxic are still a very large amount. I think most people can agree with that.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Punishment does not work as a way to remove negative behavior, in games or the real world. People just come right back and do it again (or are replaced by new people), as long as the conditions favoring it persist.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Then change the conditions. If someone gets banned on more than 5 accounts, block the MAC address from the PC. Force them to reconsider their decisions with a new PC or having to purchase a new program.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

MAC Spoofing takes about 15 seconds.

doiminat0r36001 votes

But it requires enough effort and knowledge that many don't know or dont care enough to learn.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

The 15 seconds was what it took to google and test it. If riot did it, it would enter the skiddiesphere as common knowledge.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Who cares. Just make something that works better.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

It is really not that easy, unless you have some amazing idea for how to identify people?

doiminat0r36001 votes

I said MAC addresses but apparently that's not good enough.

Ambient Snow2 votes

What are we talking about Recent? This has been rising for god knows how long

doiminat0r36001 votes

Recently, ive seen multiple posts on the front page of Gameplay. I've never seen this amount of posts complaining about the sheer number of people that are report worthy in a game.

DrCrackerr852 votes

Lol this is so true, so many people get reported for feeding when they are just having a bad game. Its frustrating but we gotta remember we all have bad games. Personally when I have a horrible game I usually just say like "Sorry guys bad game for me, lets just farm up and do our best" Something like that. I just hope I don't get reported those games for "inting" when its really just a bad game

Magical Player2 votes

"We all know that the int feeders and the flamers and the people who just don't cooperate at all are at a rise again." where are the stats to back this up?

The lack of skill was called unskilled. It was actually designed to help riot fix match making rather than punish someone. You were essentially saying riot the game was unfair but nobody was toxic, but the match was just too 1 sided.

In what way would you like riot to inform you of punishment? They already tell you if a recent report has caused a player to be punished, you're looking for revenge on a player who cost you 30 whole mins of your life..... Riot won't give you the name of the person they punished based off your ticket , as they don't want players out for revenge rather to make a better community inside the game.

You use "I think most people agree" I think most people disagree with your statement, people who come to the boards are a very small selection of players. Riot has millions of accounts, yet boards are populated by a few thousand daily accounts. (number may be wrong, but its a clear showing that riot boards are not the community as a whole)

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Recent? It's been on the rise for years sadly. Though the autofill forcing people to play roles they're uncomfortable with doesn't help; they should've keep teambuilder instead. Rather wait twice the que time to play where I want, than half the que time to be stuck somewhere I don't know how to play.

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