This is me just laughing, not at any of you for having good games (good on you man), but definitely laughing at your posts when you say "games don't have to be bad!"
......... <--- these dots are waiting for the impact that your good game sharing does to deter trolls. :)
Edit: I don't mind the downvotes. You're entitled to click whatever :) It is sarcasm though, don't ruin your mood over it
ModUlanopo7 votesthese dots are waiting for the impact that your good game sharing does to deter trolls. :)
Okay, granted. But what are you doing to deter trolls?
Great Muta2 votesIt's not his job to deter trolls. That's Riot's job and they do a poor job of it.
ModUlanopo7 votesIf he's going to challenge other people, he should be prepared to be challenged in turn. He was the one who suggested the behavior of others was futile. It seems fair to ask in what ways he is not similarly ineffective.
Great Muta2 votesYour behavior system must be pretty bad when you are calling on players to fix it for free.
What are you doing to fix the game Ulanopo?
Meanwhile, I'm always happy to give tons of suggestions for fixing the game. You can ask me any time baby. I've gone out of my way to contact various Rioters and to try and get this fixed. Rioters don't seem to have any interest though.
ModUlanopo9 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-18T01:17:12.222+0000)
Your behavior system must be pretty bad when you are calling on players to fix it for free.
I'm not asking him to fix it for free. I'm asking an armchair quarterback why he isn't in the game.
What are you doing to fix the game Ulanopo?
I created the first Knowledge Base. I helped form the Arbiters. I volunteer my time on the board and have for years.
Rioters don't seem to have any interest though.
I don't mean this is anything even resembling a snarky or mean way, but you might want to consider why that is.
Great Muta1 votesSo in the same post you said:
I'm not asking him to fix it for free. I'm asking an armchair quarterback why he isn't in the game.
Then said on why Riot doesn't want help:
I don't mean this is anything even resembling a snarky or mean way, but you might want to consider why that is.
Which one is it? Why should he be "in the game" when the game isn't looking for new players?
And you are taking credit for this bad behavior system? I'd be embarrassed personally.
ModUlanopo7 votesWhich one is it? Why should he be "in the game" when the game isn't looking for new players?
I never said the game wasn't looking for new players. I suggested the game wasn't looking for you.
Great Muta1 votesHow do you even know they want new players? How do you know they'd even give him a chance? And why should he apply when the game only wants RBSC members?
You seem to be speaking for Riot here. What is your position within the company?
ModUlanopo7 votesYou seem to be speaking for Riot here. What is your position within the company?
You know that I'm an Arbiter.
And why should he apply when the game only wants RBSC members?
You seem to be confusing "yes men" with "people who dare to disagree with Great Muta." Lots of the volunteers don't like the things Riot does. Just because we don't jump on your bandwagon doesn't make us sycophants.
It feels as though you want to put a demeaning label on us and call it a day, which doesn't seem like an especially productive way to bring people over to your perspective. It seems like it would be frustrating and exhausting. I know that your "RBSC" posts don't affect the way I feel about Riot or the behavior systems, but YMMV.
Great Muta1 votesYou know that I'm an Arbiter.
Which is a volunteer. Not a Rioter, so you can't speak on company policies. You can speak on arbiter stuff only.
You seem to be confusing "yes men" with "people who dare to disagree with Great Muta." Lots of the volunteers don't like the things Riot does. Just because we don't jump on your bandwagon doesn't make us sycophants.
I've seen a lot of downvoting. A lot of name calling, but I really haven't seen a ton of discussion. Myself and others have tried, but this forum is a justicepron forum first, and a pro-Riot propaganda forum second. It doesn't want to hear it.
It feels as though you want to put a demeaning label on us and call it a day, which doesn't seem like an especially productive way to bring people over to your perspective.
You can call it whatever you want or whatever makes you less offended. You can call it the thought police. You can call it the RBSC. You can call it pro-Rito shills. You can call it a big happy bunch of people who just don't want to see anything going against Riot. There's very clearly a group of 10-15 people who are doing everything they can to keep the pro-Rito stuff in and the "Daddy Rito knows best" stuff upvoted and strong on here, while keeping anything critiquing Riot down. The scores tell the story.
If you aren't RBSC though, why be offended? I'm one of the Anti-RBSC forces. I find it very interesting here how many supposed "non-Riot employees" get personally offended when someone critiques the game.
It seems like it would be frustrating and exhausting. I know that your "RBSC" posts don't affect the way I feel about Riot or the behavior systems, but YMMV.
I knew how heavy my cross to bear in this fight against a backwards behavior system was going to be. I knew I was going to take abuse, I knew I was going to get downvoted and I knew I was going to ruffle some Rito feathers. I never imagined Riot employees would use personal attacks against their uses, but the ones who preach love the most always seem to be the most vicious. Putting an end to this bogus behavior system and stopping the RBSC is something I'm willing to take shots to accomplish and I'm ready for the long fight.
Sorin Alucard1 votesYou know that I'm an Arbiter.
You seem to be confusing "yes men" with "people who dare to disagree with Great Muta." Lots of the volunteers don't like the things Riot does. Just because we don't jump on your bandwagon doesn't make us sycophants.
It feels as though you want to put a demeaning label on us and call it a day, which doesn't seem like an especially productive way to bring people over to your perspective. It seems like it would be frustrating and exhausting. I know that your "RBSC" posts don't affect the way I feel about Riot or the behavior systems, but YMMV.
Arbiter? Tell me more!
Maximum Morde1 votesStep 1 is to not feed them. Even talking about them at all gives them the attention they crave. Especially on the forums.
Sorin Alucard1 votesOkay, granted. But what are you doing to deter trolls?
I have little to no impact on the actions of other anon human beings who log onto league of legends :)
The company has more power than I, and even then there will always be that kid who asks to play ball just to kick it over the fence and laugh lol
I also have little to no impact on champ select prejudice, which definitely exists in this game. If I queue up Teemo, there is a chance someone will have an opinion of me and treat me accordingly before game starts. What can I do but shut up or laugh?
IF I had more power to exercise against trolls, I would. For now I do what everyone else does. spam mute. usually report at least one guy at end of rank (either team), and try not to talk to individuals who have no intention of acting human on their keyboard.
Telephone Booth3 votesI don't know what you mean by good time league stories, but for me, anytime playing league is a good time. Why play league if it's not a good time? You are miserable on your free time? The fuck are you playing for? Just wasting time cuz your life sucks? I know bad games suck, but do you really not think league is fun anymore? Maybe you shouldn't play. Honestly. Think about it.
Great Muta1 votesWhy play league if it's not a good time?
Riot basically tells people with LCS and their various competitions that "if you get good enough, you too can be on stage with Faker" even though it's clear that only the 0.00001% of players are good enough to compete at that level.
If this game was only for fun, I would have put it on the shelf along with "The Mean Greens" almost as soon as I got it. This game is an investment of time and money and a competition. I don't play this game for fun. I play it to get IP for new champs and so I can hit Challenger someday(which will never happen).
Telephone Booth2 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-17T23:20:57.104+0000)
Riot basically tells people with LCS and their various competitions that "if you get good enough, you too can be on stage with Faker" even though it's clear that only the 0.00001% of players are good enough to compete at that level.
If this game was only for fun, I would have put it on the shelf along with "The Mean Greens" almost as soon as I got it. This game is an investment of time and money and a competition. I don't play this game for fun. I play it to get IP for new champs and so I can hit Challenger someday(which will never happen).
Ohh... I think most people just play for fun. I don't really have a desire to be on stage with faker. I already go on stage every weekend in my band, and I don't do that so I can get rich and famous either. I do it because it is fun. But that's besides the point. You know it will never happen, so why do it? I still don't quite understand.. If it's not fun, why not do something fun instead?
And believe me dude, I'm not saying your reasons for playing are wrong.
Great Muta1 votesYou may be an adult. I am. Riot doesn't really tell people that out of 100 million players, there's about 300 who are pro players. I know I'm not going pro soon and with how sketchy that lifestyle is, I don't think I'd want to anyway, but little kids and high-schoolers? Probably don't know how bad their odds are and how unlikely it is that they ever go anywhere in this game.
Sorin Alucard1 votes[{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-17T22:52:18.517+0000)
I don't know what you mean by good time league stories, but for me, anytime playing league is a good time. Why play league if it's not a good time? You are miserable on your free time? The fuck are you playing for? Just wasting time cuz your life sucks? I know bad games suck, but do you really not think league is fun anymore? Maybe you shouldn't play. Honestly. Think about it.
This comment shouldn't shock me considering the mentality of many people I've encountered online in games, but damn it still shocked me.
For real dude, you need to calm down lol Is MY personal well being and happiness really that important to YOU. On the same note, how does 1 sarcastic comment on a board equate to you having the personal insight that I "hate this game". I'm not upset. Im surprised at the comedy so I'll respond :)
If there is any point I was making (can't believe Im clarifying) it was towards the player base, not the game. Its not limited to this game either. The impact of telling a story of "oh this game was good I met SOME good people" with the supposed intention to discourage trolls or gleam an overall insight didn't seem to have much impact logically. If it was just there to say "oh i still have good times", then shrug ok you shared a game experience. Thats about as insightful as one bad game being mentioned. Am I knocking positivity in general? Not really. Do I like the game? Obviously I do, I'm still playing despite bad games.
I basically saw that post as "Oh! I know a lot of people talk about Blue chairs, but today I found a Red chair."
Great Muta2 votesDon't worry, none of its legit anyway. Some of those are very clearly paid posts. There's a crew here who I like to call the RBSC aka the Rito Butt Slappers Club that goes around and downvotes anything critiquing Riot and upvotes corny "just get out your coloring book when you get flamed and Daddy Riot will take care of it" stuff. You'll know who they are because it's the same 5-10 people in every single thread.
EvilDustMan3 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-17T22:42:26.259+0000)
Don't worry, none of its legit anyway. Some of those are very clearly paid posts.
Uh, sure Spicy. Sure.
Great Muta1 votesThis is exactly what I would expect a paid poster to say to be honest. When you can't challenge someone's point you try and hit them personally aka the r/politics method.
EvilDustMan4 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-17T23:28:14.498+0000)
This is exactly what I would expect a paid poster to say to be honest.
I can't tell if you are poorly trolling or you actually believe the things you are typing.
Great Muta1 votesIt's been said by many people here that there are clearly a group of people here who downvote anything critiquing Riot and upvote pro-Rito butt kissing posts. That's not a new point. There's very clearly some topics that this board wants to see get upvoted and some that the board doesn't, regardless of the quality.
Magical Player4 votesDon't worry all of it is legit. Some of those are very clearly dedicated posters. There is a crew here who I like to call RBSC aka Riot bashers snusnu club that goes around and downvotes anyone agreeing with Riot and upvotes corny "just get out your coloring book when you get flamed and Daddy riot will take care of it" stuff. You'll know who they are because it's the same 5-10 people in every single thread
Great Muta1 votesHey, we both know you can't go toe to toe with me on this discussion, but at least you admit it.
Magical Player4 votesI was doing word play like yourself Where did I admit anything :D
Sorin Alucard1 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-17T22:42:26.259+0000)
Don't worry, none of its legit anyway. Some of those are very clearly paid posts. There's a crew here who I like to call the RBSC aka the Rito Butt Slappers Club that goes around and downvotes anything critiquing Riot and upvotes corny "just get out your coloring book when you get flamed and Daddy Riot will take care of it" stuff. You'll know who they are because it's the same 5-10 people in every single thread.
Idk about the totality of the statement, but I've seen people be "yes men" or "no men" for whatever personal reasons. Idk if I can say much past that for either side atm.
ModThe Djinn2 votes[{quoted}](name=Sorin Alucard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-17T22:08:43.942+0000)This is me just laughing, not at any of you for having good games (good on you man), but definitely laughing at your posts when you say "games don't have to be bad!"
-shrug-
Maybe I'm just lucky then. All I know is what works for me personally. Not that we haven't all had our share of super frustrating games, of course. :)
That said, I'm sorry you haven't had a similar experience with League. :(
Sorin Alucard1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=VuAH1rks,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-17T22:54:47.136+0000)
-shrug-
Maybe I'm just lucky then. All I know is what works for me personally. Not that we haven't all had our share of super frustrating games, of course. :)
That said, I'm sorry you haven't had a similar experience with League. :(
I should've capitalized THAT in the title to emphasize sarcasm :)
