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Elo Hell Exists and here is the solution.

sonics shadow·3/25/2017, 5:53:43 PM·4 votes·1,580 views

Elo hell does exist, people say "just win more than you loose." easier said than done. For one you have to play a game where all of your teammates had 14+ deaths while you have 2 deaths. So tell me "win more" people. How do you win that game? Impossible because all of the people on your team fed the other team till they are gods and the instant you want to help them, you are quickly over run and you lower your own score. Second even if you don't have a game like that, where everyone feeds, if one person feeds on your team, you lose, no matter what. I cant tell you how many times i myself gets fed and then the rest of the team just sucks. if one person is fed on my team, but the rest of the other team is fed that means you cant win. Seriously. There needs to be a penalty for have consistent horrible scores. Example. If someone were to play LOL and they consistently get scores like 2/15/3 then they should be temp banned from regular games and can only play bot games till they get better. If they get better in the bots but then fall into the same type of scores then they will be temp banned longer and longer. that way people that know how to play the game can actually play in peace and not have to worry about some 5 year old playing on a LV30 summoner account. by implementing such a system then elo hell will disappear for those that can actually play the game and now have to constantly get a 50% and under win rate because people cant play the game correctly. It is only for the ones that are consistently bad. It wouldn't affect someone that just had a couple of bad games because its there off day.

I want to enjoy this game but it is hard to when there are people that are just plain awful. and if a person that get a score like 2/15/3 and the team wins because the rest of their team played well then that just enables that person to play bad with people that are good. there is no learning for them.. but if they are punished and they realize that they are consistently bad then they will either practice more so they can get out of their ban, or they will just quit, because they are legitimately a bad player and the game is not for them.

Now i was placed in B5, i am not mad about the placement, i am mad that you cant get out of it for the rest of your ranked career because of bad players in every game. The ranked system is broken as well. I have 14 wins, and 25LP. however someone in B1 has 3 wins and 0LP. Now tell me that isn't just a little weird. how can someone who has only won three times in a higher rank than i? It doesn't make sense.

The bottom line is Riot need to put more weight on a players score and not just their win or loss. If a player is the only person that is positive (in score ie 5/1/x) but the rest of the team is negative (25/1/x) then they should not be penalized for the loss, or at least not lose any LP for it. The ban should work for ranked as well. It would work like: if a person has a less than 40% win rate in any ranked league then they will be warned that if they do not improve then they will either drop down to the next tier in the ranked system or if they are in bronze then they will be banned from ranked games until next season. that way the people that belong any amount higher than they actually are will be able to get there and maybe improve as well. This new system would not affect plat/diamond players very much because they are there for a good reason. the system can bend for them as well, if they just had an off day and they decide not to play for the rest of the day and the next day they do better then they are not penalized. this system is to weed out all the people that are CONSISTENTLY bad players.

And if i myself were to fall into the banned area then it would tell me that i need to learn more, that i need to improve my skills and work to get better in a nurturing environment. if a person is always loosing because of their bad teams that doesn't allow them to improve or grow because they don't have a chance to do anything against a 1v5 team. overall there needs to be a better match making system, kick the players that cant play to the sidelines and let the learn while the people that can play enjoy the game a lot more.

27 Comments

Magical Player3/25/2017, 6:06:12 PM4 votes

1- there is a consistent penalty for doing bad, lost lp lower division, lower mmr 2- If you want to climb you have to carry, you should not rely on your team to carry 3- Your mmr was lower than the person who placed higher out of placements, not hard to see. 4- Team game, team not solo game 5- So a bad game, should essentially put you in prisoners island.... 6-https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=sonics+shadow+ this is you 7- far too many normal games to actually climb with, play ranked more often if you want to climb. Don't do the 1 loss and Done Don't take this the wrong way, you're the bottom of the barrel, there is only 1 way left to go and that is up. Either you will go up or you wont but you can't climb playing 1 ranked game every week(unless you win 100% of the time)

His Dinoboy3/25/2017, 6:08:11 PM1 votes

So i recently climbed out of bronze 5 about a month ago, and ill share the way i did it. you need to hold your teams hand the entire time by either jungling or laning mid. Roaming bot and top constantly to influence the game so hard its virtually impossible to lose. I used the champs annie and fizz when mid and hec when jungling. In one of my most recent games i had 138 cs in like a 30 minute game on fizz, this is how much i had to roam to win. Also try to not focus on how bad your teammates are, by instead focusing on how good you have to be to carry the amount of retardation and simply idiotic choices/mehcanics in that godforsaken elo. also the game isn't about kills, its about getting objectives. influencing the game like i previously mentioned isn't just getting a free double kill bot than backing, you should help them get turrent as well.

normie sIayer3/25/2017, 9:53:08 PM1 votes

play braindead champs and farm its not hard

Starbòy3/25/2017, 10:34:23 PM1 votes

first advice 2 climb, PLAY META CHAMPIONS since this is the only way to climb, unless you are an one-trick-pony on a specific champion and u have thousands of games with him, and play mid/top or jungle if u feel that u can carry, botlane has almost 0 impact on game unless u duo with someone who can peel you and have a good synergy

Forced Feed3/25/2017, 11:32:20 PM1 votes

With a system that's based on Win/Loss, and based on a 1v1 game, it'll never be that accurate. As you said, a guy that goes 0/18/3 can still win because his team is good and situations like this imbalance it very much so. On the other hand you can have a really good game and your entire team sucks and you still get a loss.

Who you won/lost against should be a factor, just not the main factor in determining who you get matched up with, because it's treating the guy who went 20/5/20 the same as the guy who went 0/18/3 just because they're on the same team ,this can never be accurate.