Riot you need to seriously change the way you handle "toxic players" and perm bans.

Elsa n Spiderman··3 votes·915 views

To drop my few cents on the topic, I disagree with Riot's punishment-philosophy. The way I personally think it should be, would be splitting punishments into two categories regarding Gameplay and the Chat.

A chat-related offense should receive a chat-related punishment such as restricting the player from using the all-chat and limiting the amount of messages he can send. But it should not be answered with limited or permanent account-bans, as players have various ways to handle rude messages or spam, such as muting the player sending them or turning off the all-chat or the chat-window as a whole.

Gameplay-related offenses, such as intentional feeding or inappropriate amounts of AFKing should be answered with gameplay-restricting punishments such as locking the player out of ranked matchmaking or matchmaking in total for a limited or unlimited time.

I believe that this is the way it should get handled because dealing with rude, or using the buzzword 'toxic', players is already a really easy task and I cannot agree with the idea that such behavior should lock you out of playing the game at any time. I do not intend to encourage uncivil behavior in the ingame-chat but I personally regard 'flamers' or 'spammers' as way better teammates to have than AFKs or trolls.

Yes, they will drag themselves and the team down by making rude comments and unnecessary trashtalk, but an intentional feeder straight up loses your game and potentially even that very important promo you were taking so seriously. I think that Riot needs to neglect some of their efforts to 'reduce 'toxic' behavior' since the option to mute someone ingame is already granted at any time.

This makes players that demand additional focus on preventing rude behaviour, honestly, seem like crybabies and keyboardwarriors. Instead the company should focus on punishing leavers, trolls and intentional feeders. Especially in competitive matchmaking it is not so much rudeness but outright sabotage that should get you punished faster than the other.

And I especially believe that a player should have the right to call out any provocative intentionally feeding Malphite player that he is a fucking worthless braindead scumfuck bastard pile of trash mental dickface that should be gunned down on the street like the degenerate he is.

That will be all, Riot.

P.S

You need to give the people you perm banned (who spent a lot of money collecting skins, a $10 RP card CANT EVEN buy a 1350 skin) a second chance, you really do. Most of these bans are over trivial nonsense. You really owe these people a second chance.

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WhoreMuncher8 votes

Just stop being toxic. It's as simple as that.

MasterSomething8 votes

You need to give the people you perm banned (who spent a lot of money collecting skins, a $10 RP card CANT EVEN buy a 1350 skin) a second chance, you really do. Most of these bans are over trivial nonsense. You really owe these people a second chance.

This line made me want to read this steaming pile of shit topic. First of all, buying stuff DOES NOT MAKE YOU IMMUNE TO PUNISHMENT. Neither does being popular. That's why Dunkey was banned. These people broke the rules, they get punishment, end of discussion.

And I especially believe that a player should have the right to call out any provocative intentionally feeding Malphite player that he is a fucking worthless braindead scumfuck bastard pile of trash mental dickface that should be gunned down on the street like the degenerate he is.

lel, dunkey won that game, did not get banned for that game, and lied about a lot of shit

Elsa n Spiderman3 votes

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o Maui o8 votes

Did... did you just compare yourself to Rosa Parks?

Are you trying to be the Rosa Parks of being a dick in video games?

Uw1U10y0462 votes

I'm pretty sure he was just saying your argument is sh*t.

Sarutobi6 votes

How many chances do you think people need? They already get 3, and before that they could get upwards to 1000 chat restriction. How many chances can you give someone who obviously doesnt want to change?

Uw1U10y0461 votes

That's untrue. You can get a direct permaban for displaying "extreme toxic behavior" in ONE game. I know someone who, having NO PRIOR warning or anything, got a direct permaban for using the "n word". I won't type it because people are EXTRA sensitive around here. But that's BS, if u base it on the fact that it's a word used CONTINUOUSLY in popular culture and retaining virtually NONE of the negativity it once did. Riot needs to get off tumblr

ModWulf Helhammer5 votes

Retaining virtually NONE of the negativity it once did.

Must be why people can lose jobs over saying it. Don't use rap music as a life model, one of the worst sources you could use.

Uw1U10y0461 votes

I didn't specifically mention rap. But yeah, it's pretty ridiculous that you can lose your job for using that word. The guy who made the thread was suspended from writing in the forums for using the n word. It's a word. Nobody is being lynched.

FHMarshy1 votes

Please, if the person never got warnings before, send a ticket to Riot. It is already announced by Riot that they would send warnings before punishment.

Please do that on the public forum and Riot will be able to reply with all the detailed reasoning why that person gets banned.

Those are ALWAYS entertaining.

Sarutobi1 votes

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That's untrue. You can get a direct permaban for displaying "extreme toxic behavior" in ONE game. I know someone who, having NO PRIOR warning or anything, got a direct permaban for using the "n word". I won't type it because people are EXTRA sensitive around here. But that's BS, if u base it on the fact that it's a word used CONTINUOUSLY in popular culture and retaining virtually NONE of the negativity it once did. Riot needs to get off tumblr

Yes but thats extreme cases. Usually slurs, and other derogatory words are not welcome, and to be fair just because others use it in a none racist way doesnt mean other see it as it truly is. Or else by that logic words like Retard, Gay and %%% should all be ok since their original meanings are harmless. But its just too common now to use those types of words to belittle someone.

FrankerX4 votes

"You need to give the people you perm banned (who spent a lot of money collecting skins, a $10 RP card CANT EVEN buy a 1350 skin) a second chance, you really do. Most of these bans are over trivial nonsense. You really owe these people a second chance."

you have 4 chances. but i kinda agree 2 would be way more fun than 4.

Uw1U10y0461 votes

Nope! Some people literally get 0 chances, direct permaban, and it's more common than u'd think. Even if you're the most toxic, shittiest human being, not getting a second chance for displaying (even the most disgusting) toxic behavior is pretty bs.

FrankerX2 votes

"0 tollerance against hatespeech and homophobia" yea if you think being gay is an insult or being insert race here makes you worth less than other humans you deserve nothing more than a permaban. riot should send you a phonenumber to some mental help if you get a permaban right away for a 2nd chance in your failed life.

Uw1U10y0461 votes

Equal rights / gay people being able to marry is a law that literally just passed in the US and I'm pretty sure some states are still trying really hard to make gay ppl's lives miserable. Yeah, it's absolutely shitty, but we live in a racist, homophobic continent. People have ugly, heinous views. But is policing slurs and words the way to go to stop it? Absolutely not. Videogames are not a platform to preach any political viewpoint whatsoever. People are racist to me ALL THE TIME when I speak french, but they don't deserve (nor do they get) a permaban because of it. Why does racism against black people get an immediate red card? Either you fully commit, or you don't.

ModWulf Helhammer6 votes

You have to be insanely bad to get it on the first try. Even for things like slurs they will usually put you on a 14 day ban first.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You have to be insanely bad to get it on the first try. Even for things like slurs they will usually put you on a 14 day ban first.

Whoops wrong person

FACE THE WlND2 votes

I feel bad for you. Why? Because you spent so much time writing this for downvotes.

Uw1U10y0462 votes

I completely agree with this. "Toxic" behavior such as insults and "riding" teammates is its own freaking culture in video gaming. People get angry and are aggressive when playing video games, some humans are just wired to be more aggressive than others : that's how they ARE. You can't tell them to "JUST stop being toxic!" it's out of their control, plain and simple. I'm sick and tired of people replying to these threads with "Just don't be toxic! You deserve to be punished!" Video games are DESIGNED to bring the worst in people. Stop being so sensitive! Just use the mute button! See - it works both ways.

ModWulf Helhammer6 votes

You see, if you were a simple animal, then you would have no control. But we humans have a marvleous little thing called self control, which lets us override our base instincts and act better.

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