RIOT. im banned. please explain HOW these chatlogs are bannable

iVIEWBOT·Sep 23, 2017·2 votes·2,394 views

this is completely stupid. i said nothing insulting/racist in my chat. its "general whining" and "crybaby chat". however "crybaby chat" shouldnt be bannable. thats stupid as hell

here are the chatlogs

my "crybaby chat" is not insulting or racist or anything. and if someone doesnt like it, they should just mute me. it is the stupidest thing ever if "crybaby chat" is now bannable.... im not hurting anyones feelings by me being a crybaby and just whining in general in chat

also. i stream on twitch. if anyone wants to join my stream and give your words of support. come n say hello

http://www.twitch.tv/withawonder

Game 1 Kaokentake: lets just open top pls Kaokentake: its over Kaokentake: 4 what Kaokentake: im not going to get banned. just wondering why they think i would be tho Kaokentake: im not guilty of any of that Kaokentake: guess im safe Kaokentake: whats trolling Kaokentake: explain Kaokentake: "ur lane jungle" Kaokentake: what does lane jungle mean? Kaokentake: i asked for your reason teemo. and you said "ur lane jungle" Kaokentake: that doesnt make logical sense Kaokentake: thats your reason? Kaokentake: yes. me saying i dont want to see a feeder toplane Kaokentake: means im trolling? Kaokentake: vayne. im not refusing to play Kaokentake: so your wrong in your logic as well Kaokentake: so i guess all of you are wrong Kaokentake: i am not refusing to play Kaokentake: i am playing the game. taking smart plays when i see it Kaokentake: i am not refusing to play Kaokentake: so vayne is wrong in his logic as well Kaokentake: thats not bannable. vayne Kaokentake: i am taking smart palys if i see it Kaokentake: so. seems all of you have zero bannable things i have done Kaokentake: great. feel free to report me then Kaokentake: i am safe Kaokentake: ok enemy team. you are all free to report me. im not scared now. my team has listed zero bannable things i have done Kaokentake: so i dont mind if you report me. riot wont ban me since im innocent Kaokentake: so your free to report me, if that brings you happiness Kaokentake: i dont mind Kaokentake: my spirit is one where i like to defend myself Kaokentake: if falsely acused Kaokentake: so thats why im talking Kaokentake: how am i negative Kaokentake: soma im down to duo. ill go top/mid Kaokentake: i queue'ed top/mid Kaokentake: im a god in lane Kaokentake: wanna duo sona

Game 2 Kaokentake: yo kog. dont gank top ok. dont want ganks this matchup. given the teams i prefer you mostly farm, kog Kaokentake: i dont care about ganks i care about winning Kaokentake: we get to lategame we win. heavy farm Kaokentake: kog i know you dont normally jungle Kaokentake: but anyway. i probably shouldnt even speak Kaokentake: i feel like im gonna say something helpful but u probably wont like it anyway Kaokentake: never mind Kaokentake: ok so. your entire jungle was alive. and you decided to invade. isntead of farming out jungle Kaokentake: a few of those decisions in a row could make us lose Kaokentake: now we are in rough waters Kaokentake: but if we focus we can comeback Kaokentake: the issue kog. was the play you made 4-5 minutes ago which gave khazix the lead Kaokentake: if you didnt do that. he wouldnt be able to invade you at all Kaokentake: but now that kha has a lead. his invades have no counterplay Kaokentake: by lead. i meant a problem lead Kaokentake: before your invade. his lead wasnt a problem Kaokentake: when you invaded and he got 2 kills. that made it a problem Kaokentake: we probably still win just cuz our teams so op lategame Kaokentake: ill shut up Kaokentake: was being friendly but typing in general is annoying Kaokentake: i will shut up Kaokentake: the dragon is useless. its air. we shouldnt even be around it Kaokentake: thats bad position all around Kaokentake: let them take airs Kaokentake: if its red or ocean ill come for it Kaokentake: im not talking about your intentions Kaokentake: im talking about your position Kaokentake: it needs to improve Kaokentake: we were -2 kills. now were -6 Kaokentake: darn your right Kaokentake: apparantly its all my fault Kaokentake: ok Kaokentake: its me Kaokentake: if janna gets aperfect ult. we can win the 5v5 Kaokentake: i wanna group mid Kaokentake: omw Kaokentake: ghroup mid pls Kaokentake: we have to group Kaokentake: stay in base Kaokentake: defend baron Kaokentake: once barons geon. we leave n 5v5 Kaokentake: no Kaokentake: we dont want picks Kaokentake: we want grouping and 5v5ing Kaokentake: if khe comes in. in a 5v5 Kaokentake: janna ult counters him Kaokentake: we cant pick a baron team Kaokentake: vs baron. we want to tower camp Kaokentake: and defend towers Kaokentake: and hope we survive Kaokentake: they clearly arent stupid Kaokentake: so we want to defend at our towers Kaokentake: baron lasts 3 minutes Kaokentake: 3 mintues ultra defense Kaokentake: id rather Kaokentake: play safe Kaokentake: for a more sure win Kaokentake: play safe Kaokentake: 3 minute Kaokentake: then 5v5 Kaokentake: let ALL OUTER TOWERS GO Kaokentake: lter 2 top towers go Kaokentake: let both top towers die Kaokentake: 4 stay mid Kaokentake: STAY MID Kaokentake: 4 stay mid Kaokentake: baron over soon Kaokentake: once its over Kaokentake: we legit 5 rush down mid Kaokentake: and suprise them with a 5v5 Kaokentake: TIMER Kaokentake: WHATS baron tiemr Kaokentake: ONCE BARONS OVER Kaokentake: WERE LEGIT RUSHING DOWN MID Kaokentake: all 5 Kaokentake: BARONS GONE NOW Kaokentake: prepare Kaokentake: 5mid Kaokentake: prepare Kaokentake: NVM CANT Kaokentake: once their split ends Kaokentake: then we go 5mid Kaokentake: defend split Kaokentake: then go 5mid Kaokentake: they splittin Kaokentake: so defend Kaokentake: ONCE THEY GIVE UP THE SPLIOT Kaokentake: then we 5mid Kaokentake: we defend the split until they give it up Kaokentake: TEHY LEFT Kaokentake: NOW. 5mid Kaokentake: nope Kaokentake: riven didnt leave Kaokentake: once they leave the split Kaokentake: RUSH MID NOW ILL TPO Kaokentake: rush mid now Kaokentake: BACK Kaokentake: ima tp Kaokentake: EVENTUALLY Kaokentake: they will ahve to shop Kaokentake: and their split will end Kaokentake: kog Kaokentake: baron Kaokentake: not red Kaokentake: 5mid FOPRCE HARD Kaokentake: BASERACE MID ALL Kaokentake: BASERACE MID Kaokentake: b Kaokentake: STAY Kaokentake: GO Kaokentake: WARMOGS REGEN Kaokentake: god Kaokentake: i wanted to STAY Kaokentake: GOD Kaokentake: if we stayed Kaokentake: we would ahve won Kaokentake: backing made us lose Kaokentake: dont back unles i say so Kaokentake: we 100% Kaokentake: would have won Kaokentake: if we stayed Kaokentake: backing made us lose Kaokentake: i wanted to stay Kaokentake: people backed Kaokentake: before i said to back Kaokentake: people backed BEFORE i said back Kaokentake: whatever Kaokentake: kog. game was lost at your invade Kaokentake: remember when you jungle Kaokentake: to never invade Kaokentake: it always makes you lose Kaokentake: 1 invade = lose Kaokentake: instantly

Game 3 Kaokentake: fiddle. dont gank top k friend. dont want ganks this matchup. ill be safex Kaokentake: actually fiddle. no lane we have is ganked easily. except for bot if you have ult Kaokentake: but we scale if you farm Kaokentake: so fiddle were fine with you mostly farming. gank bot when you have ultimate 2 i guess Kaokentake: nahh Kaokentake: sonas godly late Kaokentake: i think were fine late Kaokentake: dank Kaokentake: dont gank top Kaokentake: farm Kaokentake: and Kaokentake: ok Kaokentake: hide bushe Kaokentake: hide bush Kaokentake: since u here Kaokentake: dive Kaokentake: ulti dive top Kaokentake: ulti dive top Kaokentake: thats good fidd. dont gank top anymore tho Kaokentake: i prefer helping other lanes Kaokentake: lets be ultra safe Kaokentake: ultra safe play pls Kaokentake: we scale Kaokentake: shoulda backed after tier2 tower into fidd Kaokentake: its k tho Kaokentake: ill stop getting caught Kaokentake: no baron wards Kaokentake: heh Kaokentake: simple Kaokentake: the 1 area that should be warded Kaokentake: oh well Kaokentake: they had time to walk there Kaokentake: and do the whole thing Kaokentake: before anyone suspescted.. Kaokentake: i wanted to die for tower n sacrifice Kaokentake: its k Kaokentake: jayce swing top 4farm Kaokentake: 1 death for inhib tower Kaokentake: is worth Kaokentake: you had to run after Kaokentake: now. staying in their jungle Kaokentake: thats not worth Kaokentake: but i didnt cause that Kaokentake: no reason to be there Kaokentake: ez get red Kaokentake: n yea Kaokentake: ok Kaokentake: back Kaokentake: wait for my spawn Kaokentake: i thought team was with me Kaokentake: was like 60 seconds i was top Kaokentake: sorry. thought in 60 seocnds team would be there Kaokentake: like. we had 60 seconds to go top Kaokentake: i dont understand Kaokentake: why we werent top Kaokentake: well Kaokentake: maybe Kaokentake: if -people are in the proper location Kaokentake: people wont get caught Kaokentake: like. why were the enemy team top Kaokentake: but we werent Kaokentake: blame me all you want Kaokentake: ok Kaokentake: im not going to defend myself anymore Kaokentake: im going to just go to the proper location Kaokentake: and i hope you come there too Kaokentake: i feel we should 4v5 with elder+baron Kaokentake: oh wait fidd ult Kaokentake: botrk Kaokentake: oh god Kaokentake: jayce just leave base Kaokentake: i beg you Kaokentake: fk it Kaokentake: ioma Kaokentake: ima follow jayce Kaokentake: fk it Kaokentake: just ff Kaokentake: ya Kaokentake: games over Kaokentake: couldnt group with baron Kaokentake: jayce wouldnt leave base Kaokentake: then went top Kaokentake: games done Kaokentake: we wont win Kaokentake: i already know Kaokentake: jayce Kaokentake: dont even go melee into them Kaokentake: stay behind tanks Kaokentake: wait for fiddle engage Kaokentake: meh Kaokentake: gg Kaokentake: no way to win with the jayce Kaokentake: anyway i guess Kaokentake: jayce literally ran into draven Kaokentake: and dived into him Kaokentake: i said that minutes ago ez Kaokentake: this jayce sarcifices himself Kaokentake: for no reason Kaokentake: jayce like legit Kaokentake: didnt want to win

32 Comments

zPOOPzSep 23, 20176 votes

do you ever stop typing?

The reasons are the obnoxiousness, the NEGATIVE ATTITUDE, mostly the negative attitude.

You don't have to be extremely toxic or cussing or saying the big no-no words. You can be banned for severity and FREQUENCY. If you are negative in most of the game you played, even mildly toxic like these 3 games, you can still be punished. I mean.....be honest, who would want to play with a player this obnoxious...???

Kaokentake: im not going to get banned. just wondering why they think i would be tho

Kaokentake: so. seems all of you have zero bannable things i have done Kaokentake: great. feel free to report me then Kaokentake: i am safe Kaokentake: ok enemy team. you are all free to report me. im not scared now. my team has listed zero bannable things i have done Kaokentake: so i dont mind if you report me. riot wont ban me since im innocent Kaokentake: so your free to report me, if that brings you happiness Kaokentake: i dont mind

[sg-miss-fortune]

VoldymortSep 25, 20171 votes

do you ever stop typing?

no. he doesn't. he does this every game he is in. i even made a post about it asking if it's legal to type so much and everyone said yes :D

Reket DeAlkSep 23, 20172 votes

Right away game 1 you call for an open top (Giving up), then continue to go back and forth with your team for the rest of the logs for the rest of the time.

Game 2 you focus WAYYYY too much on Kog's playing. Helpful hints are fine, but constantly trying to tell people how they should be playing is just annoying. Plus blaming him for the loss at the end.

Game 3 it looks like you try way too hard to coach your team and they weren't listening and blame them for stuff when they don't listen. You also call for a FF (More giving up) and keep harassing Jayce plus blaming him for the loss.

All in all, yeah. Pretty darn negative.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Reket DeAlk,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UkE3zTKH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-23T17:49:42.978+0000)

Right away game 1 you call for an open top (Giving up), then continue to go back and forth with your team for the rest of the logs for the rest of the time.

Game 2 you focus WAYYYY too much on Kog's playing. Helpful hints are fine, but constantly trying to tell people how they should be playing is just annoying. Plus blaming him for the loss at the end.

Game 3 it looks like you try way too hard to coach your team and they weren't listening and blame them for stuff when they don't listen. You also call for a FF (More giving up) and keep harassing Jayce plus blaming him for the loss.

All in all, yeah. Pretty darn negative.

so your saying a "negative crybaby attitude" is something bannable, and riot will permaban accounts for it

are you really truly saying you support that, and its ok?

im not personally insulting people or being racist. im just being a crybaby

that really is bannable now?

if so. fine. i will just type nothing.... just seems very dumb to me... thousands of totally innocent people with depression and crybaby emotions who do not have the willpower to "type nothing" like me are going to get banned and riot thinks that is justified? ... i feel thats morally wrong...

VoldymortSep 25, 20171 votes

i frequent his stream but it gets cringey after about 5 minutes of watching him "coach" and order people around.

what's ironic is that his style of play, even tho a bit weird, in that he is against mutual poking and pro afk farming for both sides, has good results

SavageConcordiaSep 23, 20172 votes

When you go to report someone one of the examples of "negative attitude" is giving up. With that said lets see if you fit that description:

Game 1 Kaokentake: lets just open top pls

It was tough but I think i found a time where you gave up.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

{quoted}

When you go to report someone one of the examples of "negative attitude" is giving up. With that said lets see if you fit that description: Kaokentake: lets just open top pls

It was tough but I think i found a time where you gave up.

that was after toplane was AFK for 3 minutes and died 2 times when going back to lane

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

is saying "fk it" bannable? maybe thats the reasoning? lol

King of DemonsSep 23, 20171 votes

The irony of "go on report me"-type of replies and the outcry when those reports actually do something

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Taku of Rivia,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UkE3zTKH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-23T17:58:15.983+0000)

The irony of "go on report me"-type of replies and the outcry when those reports actually do something

i assumed riot was a reasonable company

guess not

i will type nothing now i guess

riot are the bullies. lol

AraMoOseSep 23, 20172 votes

{quoted}

i assumed riot was a reasonable company

guess not

i will type nothing now i guess

riot are the bullies. lol

Asking you not to rage at/bully your teammates does not meet any definition of bullying I'm familiar with.

Typing nothing would certainly be progress in your case, although if you just stop raging at your teammates, you'd be perfectly fine.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Asking you not to rage at/bully your teammates does not meet any definition of bullying I'm familiar with.

Typing nothing would certainly be progress in your case, although if you just stop raging at your teammates, you'd be perfectly fine.

i guess crybaby chat is raging

whatever

no typing it is then

cant be a little emotional. thats bannable

got it

zPOOPzSep 23, 20173 votes

You are like the walking definition of irony. Read your responses to people's comments on this very thread and go look up the definition of crybaby.

I have a mirror you can use since you don't seem to own one...

[vlad-salute]

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

{quoted}

You are like the walking definition of irony. Read your responses to people's comments on this very thread and go look up the definition of crybaby.

I have a mirror you can use since you don't seem to own one...

[vlad-salute]

reread what im saying

im saying that "i am" the crybaby

im saying that about myself...

zPOOPzSep 23, 20171 votes

My mistake

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

AraMoOseSep 23, 20174 votes

{quoted}

i guess crybaby chat is raging

whatever

no typing it is then

cant be a little emotional. thats bannable

got it

Yes, the behavior that you are calling "crybaby chat" is in fact 'raging'. It does not matter that you've made up your own special word to describe the behavior, the problem is the behavior. This is like kids saying "I didn't run, I was just walking fast".

And of course, being emotional isn't bannable. If you were emotional but didn't rage at people, you wouldn't get punished.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

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Yes, the behavior that you are calling "crybaby chat" is in fact 'raging'. It does not matter that you've made up your own special word to describe the behavior, the problem is the behavior. This is like kids saying "I didn't run, I was just walking fast".

And of course, being emotional isn't bannable. If you were emotional but didn't rage at people, you wouldn't get punished.

i guess the term raging to me in my mind is what i see as just being emotional

whatever

the solution is just dont type

i guess typing is bannable

like i see nothing wrong with my words. like im not calling people "noobs" and stuff. not being racist. but still bannable i guess.

its just very stupid in my opinion. but whatever. i guess thats how riot wants to run their company

ban thousands of kids with depression who get emotional over a game. because thats whats going to happen. thousands of kids type like i do and just like to type when they feel emotions over a competitive video game. and i guess all those thousands of kids that i see nothing wrong with are gonna get banned.

and i guess thats morally acceptable in riots eyes

AraMoOseSep 23, 20174 votes

{quoted}

i guess the term raging to me in my mind is what i see as just being emotional

whatever

the solution is just dont type

i guess typing is bannable

like i see nothing wrong with my words. like im not calling people "noobs" and stuff. not being racist. but still bannable i guess.

its just very stupid in my opinion. but whatever. i guess thats how riot wants to run their company

ban thousands of kids with depression who get emotional over a game. because thats whats going to happen. thousands of kids type like i do and just like to type when they feel emotions over a competitive video game. and i guess all those thousands of kids that i see nothing wrong with are gonna get banned.

and i guess thats morally acceptable in riots eyes

No, you were NOT banned for typing. You were NOT banned for being depressed or for getting emotional. You were banned for raging at people.

Please make an effort to understand that, stop trying to deflect blame onto Riot. They do not control you, you control you. Please stop raging at people and you will be fine.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

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No, you were NOT banned for typing. You were NOT banned for being depressed or for getting emotional. You were banned for raging at people.

Please make an effort to understand that, stop trying to deflect blame onto Riot. They do not control you, you control you. Please stop raging at people and you will be fine.

ok i will try to in depth explain my point

i want you to look into my chatlogs. and i want you to find any message that i said, that alone could be deemed "bannable"

i looked through my entire chatlog. and i cant find anything that i can really identify as being "bad" or "bannable" or "bad chat"

so. i look at my entire chatlog, and i can see nothing that i can qualify or identify as "bad chat"

so. in my eyes. because i see nothing that is "bad chat" or "bannable chat". i look at the entire thing and to me the best way i can describe it is i see my chat as being "crybaby chat" or "whining chat"

now. you are calling it "raging chat"

regardless. i dont care what you call it. i dont care what i call it

i really just want to know what EXACTLY did i say, that can be identified or qualified as "bannable"

i cant see anything i really typed that looks bad to me

now. moving on. your calling it "raging" or whatever. whatever. call it whatever you want

i just cant see anything bad

now. moving on. i think there is going to be thousands of kids out there, that get a little emotional over a video game, a competitive video game, and those kids are going to be like me and type a little stuff that isnt even bad. and they are gonna get banned. i just see that as morally wrong.

those kids are going to look at their chatlogs, the way i look at my chatlogs, and they are going to see nothing bad or bannable in their chatlogs.... and they are going to just ask themself "WTF? what was i banned for?" and it just feels morally wrong

can you IDENTIFY or actually show me anything in my chatlogs that you can define is being "bad" or bannable?

i just really am looking for one thing. and i cant find it

i think my confusion over why i was banned is totally understandable

Busty DemonessSep 25, 20172 votes

You were consistently condescending and demoralizing, which can be ban worthy since you were consistent about it.

You also raged about previous punishments as if you hadn't said anything harassing, regardless of whether it was actual insults.

Bans happen on two cases, extreme one-time instances of language and consistently poor sportsmanship/toxicity. You were the latter.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Asking you not to rage at/bully your teammates does not meet any definition of bullying I'm familiar with.

Typing nothing would certainly be progress in your case, although if you just stop raging at your teammates, you'd be perfectly fine.

i guess crybaby chat is raging

whatever

no typing it is then

cant be a little emotional. thats bannable

got it

{quoted}

Asking you not to rage at/bully your teammates does not meet any definition of bullying I'm familiar with.

Typing nothing would certainly be progress in your case, although if you just stop raging at your teammates, you'd be perfectly fine.

thousands of totally innocent people with depression and crybaby emotions who do not have the willpower to "type nothing" like me are going to get banned and riot thinks that is justified? ... i feel thats morally wrong...

AraMoOseSep 23, 20173 votes

{quoted}

thousands of totally innocent people with depression and crybaby emotions who do not have the willpower to "type nothing" like me are going to get banned and riot thinks that is justified? ... i feel thats morally wrong...

Not quite sure why you needed to create a new post to add this quote from earlier, but needless to say, as a person suffering from depression and social anxiety myself, I am quite annoyed when people use mental illness as an excuse for their behavior. Being depressed is not against the rules. Raging at people is. And that is why you have gotten punished.

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

riot. im going to keep bumping this until you tell me what exactly in my chat was "bannable". i want to know which words i actually said that qualify as "bannable"

since i am so confused. the only solution i can see is to type nothing.

i cant find anything in my chatlogs that screams to me as "bannable" language

now. someone suggested this is bannable language

Game 1 Kaokentake: lets just open top pls

however. i dont think thats bannable because i am asking my team a question "lets just open top pls" is a question, that i am asking to my team, and i am asking my team "hey guys, can we pls open top. i think this games over so im down to open top"

i believe that question is absolutely not bad, and not "bannable chat"

however riot. if im wrong. please let me know

please. i would like one person at riot to come into this chat and identify a single message i typed that qualifies as "bannable chat"

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

riot. im going to keep bumping this until you tell me what exactly in my chat was "bannable". i want to know which words i actually said that qualify as "bannable"

since i am so confused. the only solution i can see is to type nothing.

i cant find anything in my chatlogs that screams to me as "bannable" language

now. someone suggested this is bannable language

Game 1 Kaokentake: lets just open top pls

i believe that question is absolutely not bad, and not "bannable chat"

however riot. if im wrong. please let me know

please. i would like one person at riot to come into this chat and identify a single message i typed that qualifies as "bannable chat"

im not mad. i just want to know exactly what i said thats bannable. i am extremely extremely confused. maybe me not knowing means im stupid. but legit i am confused and i dont know what i said thats bad

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

riot. im going to keep bumping this until you tell me what exactly in my chat was "bannable". i want to know which words i actually said that qualify as "bannable"

since i am so confused. the only solution i can see is to type nothing.

i cant find anything in my chatlogs that screams to me as "bannable" language

now. someone suggested this is bannable language

Game 1 Kaokentake: lets just open top pls

i believe that question is absolutely not bad, and not "bannable chat"

however riot. if im wrong. please let me know

please. i would like one person at riot to come into this chat and identify a single message i typed that qualifies as "bannable chat"

iVIEWBOTSep 23, 20171 votes

bummp

COBRA C0MM4NDERSep 23, 20171 votes

Seems you talk much and deliver nothing.

maybe. less typing. more focus.

use ping, much effect.

zPOOPzSep 23, 20171 votes

You know. Even on board/forum that allows bump (which this board does not), it is considered extremely toxic to "bump" a thread that hasn't been move to the 2nd page (which this one hasn't even make it to half page).