chat restricted for unspecified "unsportsmanlike conduct"

nubulas2·Aug 20, 2018·1 votes·2,741 views

No chat log was included which tells me they have nothing in them that is reportable.....

Last couple of ADC games I played I have had idiot supports that will not stop pushing the wave with abilities and AA non stop even as we are ganked and killed over and over. Mean while my jung farms top side until 16 min.

Then support leaves lane.

I told them in select, I cant stop jhin with ashe.

"Sure you can" uh no I can't. "Don't be negative" I am not being negative, I am stating a fact and drawing your attention to the fact that we need help bot lane.

So jung ignores us, then sup leaves, then of course jhin and nautilus tower dive kill me a couple times and take the tower.

I am left to wander around the map trying to farm while everyone on my team does the expected thing and races me to every CS.

No I am not going to push up to the river and die 3 level behind with 12 cs while jhin has 3 items on me and 100 cs

On this goes as I am flamed and accused of inting etc etc. Pretty standard game for me in bot lane.

Then sup and jung, the actual trolls, decide that I should be reported.....

And apparently riot agrees, but there is nothing in the chat log for them to use against me and nothing I did broke any rules.

From honor 2 almost 3 right to zero just because a couple trolls decided to use the report system to really troll.

Thanks riot.

I just had 3 games where everyone was great and it felt so weird. Team work and everything! I actually thought about maybe going all try hard again and make an effort to climb back up to silver.......then the shit show returns.

Now I have 24 games to mute all and I wonder if I will try harder next game or maybe just say fukit who gives a shit and throw the next 30 or 40.

I don;t need to climb....and I certainly don't care if you assholes win a game or not. Three good games out of maybe a hundred is just not enough.

27 Comments

ChermorgAug 20, 20186 votes

No chat log was included which tells me they have nothing in them that is reportable.....

No. It doesn't. It means you have not logged out and back in or checked the verified email associated with your League account (although logging out/back in is the best way by far to get the logs).

Just from your little snippet, not even seeing the exact words/phrases you used, it does sound like you had a defeatist attitude in game. Defeatist attitudes (including giving up or being pessimistic) are certainly examples of things that, if severe enough, may be punished if continued across games or after prior warnings.

nubulas2Aug 20, 20181 votes

Posted the log, and no there isn't anything in the chat log that warrants a chat restriction.

ChermorgAug 21, 20183 votes

MagicFlyingLama put it well - your logs definitely deserved punishment. I refer you above for their response.

nubulas2Aug 23, 20181 votes

OK like what? That is easy to say but what exactly is reportable?

ChermorgAug 23, 20181 votes

You were consistently negative, passive aggressive, and at times flaming.

nubulas2Aug 26, 20181 votes

LOL not compared to the rest of the team, and certainly not compared to what I am now. Im never coming back, I will never trust the people in this game ever again.

Just had several games where my own team is counter jungling me while the enemy is doing the same so I am 3 levels behind and trying to contribute when top and mid walk over and last hit camps just for fun.

Now does that seem like a point where I am going to try even harder to help the team? or maybe just afk farm for 15 minutes until they want to FF and vote no until they get their ass kicked?

By definition, anyone who starts a FF vote is giving up and that's reportable.

And now that I disabled chat , these assholes can't be toxic and then report me. So fukum all.

Every time my team plays against me, I quit at that moment. I will come back and help when that same camp has respawned. If you take another camp, same thing. On the third camp, I don't come back.

Why should I keep trying when my own team is fuking me over?

Baka RedAug 26, 20181 votes

The punishment system judges you according to your own behavior. And it judges the others for theirs. It doesn't care about who started it, or if it is talking back. If you misbehave, you risk getting punished.

PS: With the escalating punishment system Riot has in place, the next time you get punished you will get a harsher punishment. Punishment tiers: No Punishment => 10 chat ban => 24 (?) chat ban => 14 day suspension => permanent suspension. Also, once you have been punished, the rumor says that you are more likely to be punished again. You can recover your punishment status slowly (I hear it takes around 3 months of good behavior to go down one punishment tier). I suggest you clean up your act and stop being negative. The proper response to negative players is Mute, Don't talk back (this means no "Muted" - just stay silent and actually mute the guy), Play to Win, Report after match, Forget it happened.

Silent GravityAug 20, 20183 votes

If you make a support ticket: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new the agents would be very willing to give you the chatlog from your reform card, or if it was not chat, they will inform you as to the cause of your punishment.

Or, unless there is a malfunction, you can relog into the client to retrieve your logs.

First: Idiots are shitty to deal with. Second: I'm going to focus on this comment:

make an effort to climb back up to silver

Mathematically, idiots make it easier to rank up, as long as you contribute more to a team's chance of winning than an idiot.

There are 4 slots on your team and 5 on the opponent's team that can be filled with idiots. That means that 44.44% of idiots are on your team and 55.56% of idiots are on your opponent's team. (unless you contribute more than average to motivating people to act idiotically)

Imagine that you're gold, and also imagine that the matchmaker malfunctioned so that Bronze 5's started getting matched in your ranked games. 4 slots on your team, 5 slots on the opponents. The other team gets more bronzes than you. Your winrate should increase during the malfunction.

Again, imagine you're gold, and also imagine that the matchmaker malfunctioned so that Masters started getting matched in your ranked games. 4 slots on your team, 5 slots on the opponents. They get more Masters than you. Your winrate should decrease during the malfunction.

This function holds true for every facet of league.

Being matched with:

People who CS better than you decreases your winrate. People who CS worse increase your winrate. People who ward better than you decrease your winrate. People who ward worse increase your winrate. People who read the patchnotes decrease your winrate. People who don't read increase your winrate. People who team fight better than you decrease your winrate. People who fight poorly increase your winrate. ect.

This describes how people rank up when they're better than the average of the pool they're drawn from, and it also describes why they stop ranking up when they reach their skill level.

nubulas2Aug 20, 20181 votes

Well most of what you say is obvious and I agree except for the stupid 4 and 5 slots BS. This is not a statistical anomaly. Every bronze game has no less than 2 morons, often more. If I just a little better than bronze, which I am...I will never get there. Not that I really care, I have already figured out how the game is rigged at this point, so I just play to waste time and goof off.

Riot has made bot lane a total fuk fest. If you don't have one of the 3 OP ADCs and your skill level is the same or slightly better than your opponent, you lose. With the snow balling effect, you are unlikely to ever catch up after dying 3 times. I base this on thousands of games played. After 0/3 that's it. Unless you can farm for 30 minutes and run up against the level 18 ceiling, the game is over before you can catch up.

Support is hard to get right and easy to fuk up. I think they should change jungle and support, but they wont. All I want support to do , is harass the enemy adc and make them fall behind or get zoned out and protect me and ward a bush, any bush. That is soooooo easy to do. But they just can't do it.

You leave out a lot of variables from your neat little arrangement. It feels good, but it just not right, and surely you must know, regardless of how cute it sounds, and we hear it a lot...it just isn't true.

Jhin Nautilus vs Ashe and someone playing Pyke who doesn't know how Pyke works.

Even if the Ashe is better than the Jhin....Ashe will still lose. Even if you are nice and ask politely that the support stop pushing the wave. They wont.

I am not allowed to manage the wave as my support takes it away from me, while making sure neither of us gets the cs so he can point to his cs number in his defense. "But I only have 3 cs".....a duuurrrr.

Brand , Lux support never work. They "accidentally" push like crazy all time while starving the ADC. Of course they do ok, but it is at the expense of the ADC who is then irrelevant and gets flamed the rest of the game while the "support" goes 12/4/5.

Most winning bot lanes are duo together which should not be allowed in solo cue. That one thing almost always guarantees success. If I que with friends and we play bot we almost always win until we get up to playing against gold, then I just can't play at that level. And why are 2 bronze players matched against gold anyway?

The whole game is rigged. You are penalized for winning. The people you are matched with gets worse and worse every game you win. You simplae ratio does not take any of this into consideration.

Silent GravityAug 21, 20185 votes

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Well most of what you say is obvious and I agree except for the stupid 4 and 5 slots BS. This is not a statistical anomaly.

Are you saying that you have a different number of teammates than 4 and a different number of opponents than 5?

Every bronze game has no less than 2 morons, often more. If I just a little better than bronze, which I am...I will never get there. Not that I really care, I have already figured out how the game is rigged at this point, so I just play to waste time and goof off.

Riot has made bot lane a total fuk fest. If you don't have one of the 3 OP ADCs and your skill level is the same or slightly better than your opponent, you lose. With the snow balling effect, you are unlikely to ever catch up after dying 3 times. I base this on thousands of games played. After 0/3 that's it. Unless you can farm for 30 minutes and run up against the level 18 ceiling, the game is over before you can catch up.

Choosing the correct champions for the meta, team composition, individual style, and individual skill also fits as a facet that works under the same principles.

If the people you are matched with choose better champions, your winrate will decrease. If the people you are matched with choose worse champions, your winrate will increase.

Support is hard to get right and easy to fuk up. I think they should change jungle and support, but they wont. All I want support to do , is harass the enemy adc and make them fall behind or get zoned out and protect me and ward a bush, any bush. That is soooooo easy to do. But they just can't do it. Brand , Lux support never work. They "accidentally" push like crazy all time while starving the ADC. Of course they do ok, but it is at the expense of the ADC who is then irrelevant and gets flamed the rest of the game while the "support" goes 12/4/5.

I moved these lines together, because first you ask for harass and then you criticize it. But, aside from that, if you think that supporting the varied tempos, aggression levels, skill levels, and champions is an easy thing, then you should do it. Either you will rank up because it is easy to do well, or you will gain appreciation for its difficulty.

You leave out a lot of variables from your neat little arrangement. It feels good, but it just not right, and surely you must know, regardless of how cute it sounds, and we hear it a lot...it just isn't true.

I put an ect at the end, and I also said, "This function holds true for every facet of league." It does. Whatever you want to add in there works exactly the same way.

Jhin Nautilus vs Ashe and someone playing Pyke who doesn't know how Pyke works.

Even if the Ashe is better than the Jhin....Ashe will still lose. Even if you are nice and ask politely that the support stop pushing the wave. They wont.

I am not allowed to manage the wave as my support takes it away from me, while making sure neither of us gets the cs so he can point to his cs number in his defense. "But I only have 3 cs".....a duuurrrr.

Most winning bot lanes are duo together which should not be allowed in solo cue. That one thing almost always guarantees success. If I que with friends and we play bot we almost always win until we get up to playing against gold, then I just can't play at that level. And why are 2 bronze players matched against gold anyway?

The matchmaking formulas do account for grouping status. It is expected that groups will play with slightly more cohesion than pugs. Matchmaking Support Article Based on this support article it would seem unlikely to be matched with gold players while bronze in the ranked queue. Normals have their own MMR, and as such you may be placed against any rank based on their normals history.

The whole game is rigged. You are penalized for winning. The people you are matched with gets worse and worse every game you win. You simplae ratio does not take any of this into consideration.

If your assessment was correct, then all that would be required to win and rank up is to be worse than average. Because if you're worse, then you'd get stronger teammates, who'd win, and you'd rank up. Be a poor gold 3, get matched with stronger gold 3s who carry you to gold 2. Be a poor Master and you'd get matched with stronger Masters who'd rank you up to challenger.

The game pulls you, your teammates, and your opponents out from the same pool. This pool is "people at or around this specific MMR".

For example: Imagine that your teammates and your enemies were pulled from people at Challenger level MMR. You'd have 4 challengers and you on a team. Your opponents would be 5 challengers. The other team would almost certainly win. As the skill level of your team and opponents rise, your personal winrate drops.

Another example: Imagine that your teammates and your enemies were pulled from a preschool. These little humans cannot read or write. They have very low mouse/eye coordination. They have very short attention spans and may wander off during the game. You'd have 4 preschoolers and you on a team. Your opponents would be 5 preschoolers. Your team would almost certainly win. As the skill level of your team and opponents drop, your personal winrate also rises.

Now, ranked MMR exists on a spectrum between 60 and 3000ish. That roughly translates from preschooler to challenger.

Your team and your opponents are drawn from the same pool, the same MMR. Starting at 60 MMR, your winrate would be decently high. As you won games, you would rank up. As you rank up, your winrate steadily declines, because you are facing tougher opponents. How high you climb, and the rate at which your winrate declines is based on your personal skill, how much you personally contribute to a given team's chance of winning.

If you started at 3000 MMR, your winrate would be decently low. As you lost games, you would rank down. As you rank down, your winrate steadily increases, because you are facing worse opponents. How far you drop and the rate at which your winrate increases is based on your personal skill, how much you personally contribute to a given team's chance of winning.

ModPrandineAug 21, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Silent Gravity,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RqoOtUzV,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-21T01:13:36.562+0000)

Are you saying that you have a different number of teammates than 4 and a different number of opponents than 5?

Just wanted to respond to this part here. It is possible to have less than 4 or more than 5 teammates or opponents respectively if you're playing Twisted Treeline, which is a 3v3 game mode, or are playing Hexakill (a 6v6 mode).

nubulas2Aug 23, 20181 votes

No what I am saying is statistics fail in 50% of all situations or they would rule with absolute authority and they don't , because nothing is ever 100%...

Just because you can make the 4 and 5 arrangement sound nice and neat doesn't mean it is true or that it is of practical use.

Baka RedAug 26, 20181 votes

The thing Silent Gravity is trying to tell you is, that your team has 4 potential idiots, while the enemy team has 5 potential idiots. The chance that those players are idiots is equal for each player slot. Therefore as long as you aren't an idiot yourself, you are more likely to have less idiots in your team than the enemy team and that will give you advantage in the long run.

nubulas2Aug 29, 20181 votes

Yeah I know the old set up. It is a false argument based on what sounds like a statistically solid argument, however in practice it fails.

I can point to several resent games. I go way positive as jung back to back and all 3 lanes feed like crazy and think I am supposed to save all 3 lanes at the same time while they ignore objectives and continue to try to fight after losing every team fight.

Jungle being the role I am least bad at, you would think that I win more jungle games. But no, when I play better my team feeds more.

I either get jungle and the laners ignore everything or I get adc and my support feeds and pushes and wont stop until the other team is so far ahead nothing I do will make any difference.

Love how dead adc is right now.

The only games that have a higher chance of winning are when I am in que with 2 friends and even then if the other 2 players are bad enough we still get hammered.

Maybe there is a chance I can win about 30% of all games. I mean if everyone on my team including me just doesn't feed early and we look at the map once a minute or so....then we might win. 70% chance to just get stomped. ESPECIALLY if I fuck up and win 3 in a row like I did recently......then I lose 9 out of the next 11. Riot HATES when you win more than 2 in a row.

The match system is such that I frequently play against silver and gold and I am forever in bronze. And I am ok with that, IF I was also playing against bronze.

When I get gold on my team rarely, they are trying something new or haven't played in 2 years or something.

Anyway..........the old 4/5 argument sounds nice but it doesn't work.

Anyway, the system is fuct, the patches are stupid, and the players are assholes and or morons. But it was fun in S5 and I keep getting 1 out of 20 games that are fun with good people. Win or lose it can still be fun.

I just keep thinking it will get better, and it just keeps getting worse.

Last year I played over 40 hours a week all year. This year maybe 5 to 10 hours a week.

nubulas2Aug 23, 20181 votes

"if you think that supporting the varied tempos, aggression levels, skill levels, and champions is an easy thing, then you should do it"

Support is hard to get right and easy to fuk up.

Not sure how you misunderstood so much and twisted it into an essay.....but your assumptions are false when compared to actual observation in game and you do not account for the huge number of smurfs who roll through and fuk the MMR sideways.

I see team work and voice chat used on some teams. I see people who have gold borders. I see people who can't even CS and all of these in the same game on opposite sides. I see snowballing from one kill. I see people who are obviously throwing games in ranked to reduce their MMR. Love it when tahm support puts his adc under enemy turret and laughs about it. I followed this guys matches and he continued yo play for 3 months with the same strat of losing with troll support. I only followed him for 3 months after I reported the behavior. He was never banned and continued to do the same thing.

I know how ELO Should work. What I see does not support the idea that it works as specified because people are manipulating it.

And very little of your "logic" holds up. The more you win the less likely to are to win again. In fact when I really go try hard, I get to about 3 consecutive wins and then hard lose 6 or more and there is nothing I can do.

I should never be matched against people more than one minor division above me ever until I win against them to about 75% for a period of time, and then be moved up one minor division. That is not how it works.

And I hate promos. Every promo game is like twice as hard and there is no way it reflects a players ability to win in their current rank. The current system wants you to beat the next level up in order to get promoted. You should move to S5 if you win against B1.

I used to think like you and it caused a lot of confusion when it never worked the way it was stated to. I have played too many games and seen too much to believe your simplistic interpretation of the system.

MagicFlyingLlamaAug 20, 20182 votes

Logs or gtfo

nubulas2Aug 20, 20182 votes

ok . didnt know I had to log out and back in.....

Sooooooo wish these people would include the whole chat log not just one persons.

So I used idiot once and maybe moron.

The rest is pretty choppy and needs context.

The whole time they were saying fuku and fukoff and fuk your mom etc etc.....

But I get the chat restriction.

Game 1 Pre-Game Nubulas4: I cant stop jhin Nubulas4: I hate pointless unfounded "optimisism" Nubulas4: I know the 2 champs well In-Game Nubulas4: you can do it Nubulas4: I would get merc treds to deal with blind and slow Nubulas4: Im not going Nubulas4: IDK why was alone in lane? Nubulas4: nvm IDC cant win this bot lane

Sup left lane, jung shows up as they kill me, not before and then they run away and he starts pushing my wave away from a perfect freeze as I am walking back to lane.

Nubulas4: do not push my lane idiot Nubulas4: I just told you I am losing lane Nubulas4: I already have pyke pushing like hell Nubulas4: wow mute LOL Nubulas4: hard to hear some truth eh?

He says "play safe" like that means anything. I was under tower getting 2 or 3v1. There is no safe.

Nubulas4: there is no fukin play safe Nubulas4: no wards Nubulas4: im chill...Im just done Nubulas4: no support Nubulas4: I got tower dove because support just left again

This is around the 3rd or 4th time support just left and Jhin /Naut tower dive knock up cc and dead. Then I get flamed for "inting" under tower. This is maybe 10 minutes in. I tried to hang on but it was pointless.

Nubulas4: lol u guys are hilarious Nubulas4: Once they take the tower maybe they will leave Nubulas4: then you guys can whine bout jhin Nubulas4: I expect a support to help and a jung to show up Nubulas4: but they never do Nubulas4: just wasting time at work

Finally got a freeze set and decided to get some farming in, at this point I am still trying to catch up. When 2 of them rush the lane and push the wave and leave. Intentional troll behavior. Of course they can't be reported for flaming me the whole game and then fukin me over every time I get near 2 cs. That's perfectly fine. You just can't call them a an idiot for being trolls.

Nubulas4: really? Nubulas4: u guys just will not allow a freeze will you? Nubulas4: push push push Nubulas4: our adc has no help Nubulas4: told you in select cant stop jhin and naut

This is where the constant pinging starts. Constant flame and harassment.

Nubulas4: more pings is just less I do gary Nubulas4: nope they will come and kill me again Nubulas4: keep pinging I do less every ping Nubulas4: really? Nubulas4: well good for you Nubulas4: he is trying to make up for bot lane run away but he cant Nubulas4: oh they have a yi? Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: take an inhib Nubulas4: tryn push bot so I can farm close to base Nubulas4: not dying so you can run away Nubulas4: keep pushing in front of me tryn Nubulas4: helps me cs Nubulas4: 4 mid Nubulas4: garen feeding Nubulas4: ok not sure what you think I can farm to catch up Nubulas4: thats sweet....... Nubulas4: now puh bot tryn so I can farm

Jung sees me farming and rushes the lane and uses smite to take cannon. Nice.

Nubulas4: even smite the cannon ? nice touch

"report ashe, ashe is trolling"

Nubulas4: Im not trolling I am getting trolled by morons Nubulas4: no you could not Nubulas4: nice that you got a flash I guess Nubulas4: no push top already got mid inhib Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: nice run away gary Nubulas4: same Nubulas4: busy with yours Nubulas4: takes longer Nubulas4: you know you can take a bare inhib without minions? Nubulas4: fun fact Post-Game Nubulas4: gg Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: no sup no jung and flamed the whole time Nubulas4: sooooo report away Nubulas4: like I care Nubulas4: if the reports worked none of you would be here Game 2 In-Game Nubulas4: nice Nubulas4: run from the adc focus 4 different targets Nubulas4: it always is Nubulas4: every single invade goes just like that Nubulas4: we already lost Nubulas4: I expected a heal

We decided to invade and of course I go in like an idiot thinking my 3 team mates will help but they run when I get ccd and killed. And of course the flaming starts and they say I am inting.... Getting in a 4v3 and your team running away is not inting.

Nubulas4: inting my ass Nubulas4: says your aggressiv in select......but not Nubulas4: smfh Nubulas4: omg Nubulas4: we are so done

Jung "ganks" when no one is there 1v2 and dies instantly.

Nubulas4: come feed bot Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: ur the one feeding Nubulas4: its a feeder team Nubulas4: top and bot fed by sona Nubulas4: just log off now Nubulas4: neither are you Nubulas4: u only exist in chat Nubulas4: maybe sona is a chat bot Nubulas4: doesnt matter they wont do anything about trolls, riot likes trolls Nubulas4: I never ff Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: not ur mom lol Nubulas4: she should have Nubulas4: ww use E sooner Nubulas4: u2 Nubulas4: cinder doesnt work for shit Nubulas4: yep thats all this game is good for Nubulas4: the fight is mid ppl Nubulas4: lol Nubulas4: I quit like 3 years ago

Actually defending a warwick player who is obviously new to the champ. Not sure why he was using ww in ranked if he cant play ww.

Nubulas4: he just bought all the wrong items Post-Game Nubulas4: Im gonna play sup like that from now on

Game 3 Pre-Game Nubulas4: what? Nubulas4: shrug Nubulas4: lose either way In-Game

Wish they had time stamps on these. After about 6 minutes of support being counter productive and helping the enemy and after about 3 or 4 deaths, I am done. No amount of effort will bring me back into the game.

Nubulas4: Im done this is pointless Nubulas4: u didnt ban him Nubulas4: very common to ban
Nubulas4: well go in and feed him some more make it 10/0 Nubulas4: oh fukin please, like any jhin is any easier Nubulas4: "watch out for zed" Nubulas4: no shit Nubulas4: log off now Nubulas4: yawn Nubulas4: focus the tank Nubulas4: always

They would not stop focusing the tank until they were all dead or the tank was dead and they will not listen when ping the adc. I mean how stupid do you need to be not to understand this? And to continue to focus the tank over and over is just ridiculous.

Nubulas4: I am dead because you focus the tank Nubulas4: and beacause I dont care

They finally went in 3v1 and killed the tank, but lost tower and inhib and the game was long over, but they got the tank.

Nubulas4: yay you got the tank Nubulas4: there is no chance of winning this Nubulas4: zero Nubulas4: still ok? Nubulas4: looks like he is taking top Nubulas4: he is taking the base wtf are you doing is the question Nubulas4: I saved the tower Nubulas4: not sure why though

I am doing everything I can to save the tower, took minion wave out and did some damage but 3 of them show up and kill me, but I still saved the tower. Of course I am flamed for this effort.

Nothing in these chat logs should equal any ban or restriction.

I am disabling chat now. I will assume I am being flamed / harassed by anyone who harass pings me and mute the pings and report them after game. Also not asking for help before or after game and not saying anything in game.

Also any support who pushes the wave relentlessly after I danger ping, I will just walk back to tower and stand there until the game is over. Waiting until they push up and die a couple times usually gets the idea across.

When I am support and the ADC wont go in when I initiate or try to help....like when they just stand there and watch me die....I am going to move behind them and watch.

For those of you who can manage a wave and go in on a fight, we will probably win lane.

For the rest of the idiots.....Fukoff every god damned one of you.

MagicFlyingLlamaAug 20, 201811 votes

It is not individual word triggers (although those do exist, there are no-tolerance words), just the general negativity.

You called someone a bot, a feeder, idiot, and just generally did nothing but negative, nonconstructive chat all game. Little things add up.

Needless to say, the reports do work.

If people are being idiots, informing them of it wont help; it just distracts them and makes them play even worse.

PurpleYukariAug 20, 20185 votes

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ok . didnt know I had to log out and back in.....

Sooooooo wish these people would include the whole chat log not just one persons.

So I used idiot once and maybe moron.

Bans aren't just about using insulting words...

The rest is pretty choppy and needs context.

The whole time they were saying fuku and fukoff and fuk your mom etc etc.....

But I get the chat restriction.

Riot provides all the context you will need in the chatlogs. Riot's stance is that you should be responsible for your behavior.

Nothing in these chat logs should equal any ban or restriction.

I see too much negative/defeatist attitude, "log off now", "reported", sarcastically telling allies to feed, and insulting allies. Also these ironic gems:

Nubulas4: doesnt matter they wont do anything about trolls, riot likes trolls

Nubulas4: if the reports worked none of you would be here

Riot doesn't like trolls as they spend lots of money on systems/employees for trying to stop them, riot caught you, and reports work. Others who were being toxic will get their bans but they are not the ones discussing it.

I am disabling chat now. I will assume I am being flamed / harassed by anyone who harass pings me and mute the pings and report them after game. Also not asking for help before or after game and not saying anything in game.

Disabling chat sounds like a good solution.

Also any support who pushes the wave relentlessly after I danger ping, I will just walk back to tower and stand there until the game is over. Waiting until they push up and die a couple times usually gets the idea across.

When I am support and the ADC wont go in when I initiate or try to help....like when they just stand there and watch me die....I am going to move behind them and watch.

And you will be banned for intentionally throwing the game or soft trolling.

nubulas2Aug 23, 20181 votes

"And you will be banned for intentionally throwing the game or soft trolling."

No you wont.

You can tell if bronze players are trying their best or throwing, it looks the same.

If riot banned trolls I wouldn't have so many on every fukin game.

Just had a player ban a pic in select and then laugh about it. Yes we lost a very long game. Nothing to report. I reported him of course, but they wont do anything about it.

You also do not have the context, it is convenient how they only give you one persons chat log. So you really can't see that I was answering other comments.

You just assume I was being all negative. Doesn't matter though, simple solution is in place. Troll the assholes permanently from now on in every game.

All this system has done is ramp up my efforts.

SaberRattlerAug 23, 20181 votes

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"And you will be banned for intentionally throwing the game or soft trolling."

No you wont.

You can tell if bronze players are trying their best or throwing, it looks the same.

If riot banned trolls I wouldn't have so many on every fukin game.

Yeah you can be banned. Considering the most egregious of those that I report do get banned. This thread is a great example of someone who I reported. Level 137 account. Soft inting/passive behavior in ARAM not SR. That's a permaban. Not a restriction. They didn't type jack. That's someone who had a decent KDA too.

Bias confirmation. Bad games tend to be standouts in memory and those cases where you have trolls, you get the sensation that they are everywhere, but they aren't.

Context doesn't matter. You're responsible for your behavior. They are reasonable for theirs.

Play the game not the text wall. And if you are having a problem with someone, remember it's just a game and one match at that. Move on. You trying to get some sort of "revenge" I guarantee will not end well for you or your account.

PurpleYukariAug 23, 20182 votes

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"And you will be banned for intentionally throwing the game or soft trolling."

No you wont.

You can tell if bronze players are trying their best or throwing, it looks the same.

If riot banned trolls I wouldn't have so many on every fukin game.

Just had a player ban a pic in select and then laugh about it. Yes we lost a very long game. Nothing to report. I reported him of course, but they wont do anything about it.

You also do not have the context, it is convenient how they only give you one persons chat log. So you really can't see that I was answering other comments.

You just assume I was being all negative. Doesn't matter though, simple solution is in place. Troll the assholes permanently from now on in every game.

All this system has done is ramp up my efforts.

The context doesn't matter. With old tribunal when they showed all chat and all reports/messages it didn't matter. You are responsible for what you type. You have options other than raging or being toxic for dealing with other toxic players.
Toxicity attracts toxicity. When you act toxic in response to seeing something you don't like, whether its poor play or other toxicity, other people "react", and it escalates.
The "troll the assholes" mantra is the quickest path to becoming one yourself. If you are an asshole, its easy to blame it on the system or other assholes. Thats why that toxicity justification doesn't work.

nubulas2Aug 26, 20181 votes

Context does matter.

1 A person who screams obscenities with no provocation is very different from a person who gets screamed at and replies "fukoff".

2 It is not my intention to de escalate anything. Once the assholes are toxic there is nothing that can fix it. I am not the one initiating the toxic environment, I am receiving the asshole behavior and just not putting up with it. It is unreasonable for anyone to expect a person to continue to try when the team is playing against them...intentionally and even antagonizing over it.

3 You are dead wrong my friend, it is working great. I don't need justification. My plan, my way, fuk these assholes. You troll me?... fine, don't expect any help from me.

For all of you who continue to argue against my position, you are full of shit. Not one of you will help someone in person if they abuse you. This is no different.

Slap someone and then ask if they have change for a dollar. Let me know how many you go through before one gives it to you.

Kei143Aug 20, 20182 votes

Relog and you'll see your chatlogs upon login.

nubulas2Aug 20, 20181 votes

thanks

Too Fat 2 CarryAug 21, 20182 votes

you can be chat restricted for being too negative. its counted as giving up or griefing

nubulas2Aug 23, 20181 votes

They took that option out of the list when the report box comes up.

Once it gets to a certain point everyone gives up. I can see it coming sooner than most. I know when my opponent is just way better than me and I can't win. Like when the opponent is actually a gold adc main in a bronze ranked game. I can't win that no matter what I do.

And when my team are a bunch of no help flaming trolls....then yes I am rather negative towards those people. Why would I be positive in that moment? Why would I be expected to be positive in that situation?

A response to a troll is not the source of the issue. The troll is the source and these passive aggressive antagonizing assholes are exploiting the report system to be bigger trolls.

Once we vote not to FF at 15 at least one person has given up right there. Is starting a FF vote reportable for giving up? I wish I could FF at 5 minutes most games.