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nubulas2··2 votes·1,126 views

The sup leaves lane from the beginning , then Mid feeds his lane and comes bot to KYs.

I still held bot in a 1v2 as MF adc.

Pinged for help, support was busy "helping mid" , remember this is right from the beginning.

I express my displeasure at how they are throwing the game.....and I get flamed and a 3 week ban.????????....

ok Riot,

I might go mute all silent, but prepare yourselves for 3 weeks of me doing the exact same thing these guys did to me. oh yeah, and I am reporting EVERY single person who complains about it.

I don't care about all your "play nice" words and bullshit , there is nothing wrong with me calling people out for being assholes and trolls.

So ok fine, you have recruited me to the troll team. If passive aggressive assholes is all you want in league, I will adjust.

Game 1 (bards leaves) nubulas2: here is my expectation....kalista will jump around raping me while her sup zones me nubulas2: then bard leaves and comes back when I am dead nubulas2: never won lane with a bard sup nubulas2: 1v2 nubulas2: missed 2 kills no sup in lane (yasou says bard is busy helping him mid) nubulas2: then get jung nubulas2: still no sup (Yasou goes bot as I am about to get a kill, FINALLY going to get a kill, and of course he KYs the one I am already killing and leaves) nubulas2: lol no help and now kys nubulas2: Im done nubulas2: no map nubulas2: go mid (Yasou keeps popping into bot lane to take a wave of CS then leave) nubulas2: fukit nubulas2: eye roll nubulas2: never won with a bard ever (Bard still never in bot lane, Yasou takes 2 more kills with last hit) nubulas2: and 3 kys by yas didnt help (Yasou takes another wave of CS and leaves) nubulas2: ok yasshole nubulas2: fukoff nubulas2: a yasshole AND a bard same team nubulas2: farm my lane and kys nubulas2: not much nubulas2: Idont care nubulas2: I knew it was a los in select nubulas2: ohhh no (Yasou takes another wave of CS and leaves) nubulas2: farm it yas (Mid tower is collapsing) nubulas2: ignore mid nubulas2: go roam bard nubulas2: nice bard (we just lost another mid tower Yasou claims he is saving us) nubulas2: u didnt play well noob nubulas2: u fuked my lane nubulas2: and lost mid nubulas2: oh ok nubulas2: keeping us in the game huh? nubulas2: LOL told you how it woild go nubulas2: and it did nubulas2: riiiiight nubulas2: I never gave up, thats your false narative nubulas2: working my assss offf 1v2 I took their base mid tower and was going to take inhib while other team was dead but they all ran away when I pinged for help) nubulas2: no help for inhib huh? nubulas2: gp inhb nubulas2: its bare (They ignore a bare inhib for over 5 minutes) nubulas2: omfg (They all focus tanks in fights and keep dying and flaming me...reeeeally need to have the WHOLE chat log report riot not just my reaction to being trolled) nubulas2: focus the tank

59 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer6 votes

Lots of harassing your teammate, but what it was particularly was the "kys". Riot has a zero tolerance policy for calls to self harm. One offence can get your account from nothing to a 14 day ban.

Now if I understand, the Yasuo was kill stealing? I really can't think of what else you were actually trying to say there, and even then, why you would use that abbreviation

nubulas22 votes

KYS is self harm ?????....kill steal is not self harm.........oh my ignorance of the net abbreviation.......so what does KYS mean then?

LOL OMFG banned over 3 letters????????????? ROLFLMAO.............HAAAAAAAAAAAAA I am going full troll for the whole ban

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

do you seriously not know what "KYS" means?

I find that very hard to believe. How do those letters even equal "kill steal"?

Better Jungler3 votes

Well see all you have to do is re-arrange them a little bit.

K is obvious. But the Y you have to go a little more creative with it. Steal is the 2nd word in kill steal. STEEL is a homonym of STEAL (sounds the same, means different) homonYm has a Y in it. so theres your Y. And S is self explanitory for STEAL.

So put them together and its on honest mistak- No he's a dirty liar and deserves the ban:P

nubulas21 votes

just read the letters phonetically..... KAY ESS

Better Jungler8 votes

You're honestly not going to fool anyone with that:P its league of legends, everyone knows that phrase one way or another.. on top of that its the internet, everyone knows that phrase one way or another:P

Brb=Bathroom Break?

Nvm= No Victorious Maokai?

LoL= Living la-vitO Loka?

nubulas22 votes

didn't realize, don't care if anyone believes it. Got it now.....dropping the Y big fukin deal.

RallerenP4 votes

Nah, you have to read them phonetically

Brb: Barbie Nvm: Envy? ehmmmmmmmm (Which I completely agree with) LoL: Eel? ooooooh Eel.

Angrychickén1 votes

Do you think we're stupid?

The Cream Reaper2 votes

Well see all you have to do is re-arrange them a little bit.

"Jefferson: You're a Bundy and if you put a D where the N is, you're a buddy. Al: And if you put an N where the D is, I'm a bunny. What's your point?"

-Married with Children

iSpencer3 votes

ks=Kill Steal

kys=kill your self (as in go commit suicide irl because you're a piece of trash who shouldn't exist).

but even without that you were being pretty toxic. If mid is repeatedly feeding and bard thinks he can prevent that and get yasuo started snowballing he has every right to go roam and make plays on the map to the best of his ability. Yasuo needs gold just as much as you do so who cares who gets the kill? Even if bard got the kill it's not trolling or a good reason to attack your teammates.

nubulas22 votes

I love reading this stuff in here, because you are the very same people who would pitch a fit if I stole 3 kills from you before 10 minutes.

And just as part of my experiment, I will play "fill" and if I get support, I will leave lane and not return for 5 minutes at a time, then pop in and take a few minions and leave and see how many of you use nice words to express your concerns.

See that's all I have to do to prove my point, is to repeat the very same actions they did and see what is said to me.

I promise you, it will not be nice. And I will report them.......for 3 weeks.

And probably lose most of those games.....so sad.

I am just tired of trying and getting screwed over every game, so fukit, I quit.

iSpencer3 votes

I doubt I would, because I'm actually a support main. I've left lane for minutes at a time before. When I do I'm usually playing blitz/thresh/leo and getting (or attempting to get, I'm not omnipotent) multiple kills for mid or top, but sometimes my pressure is just needed elsewhere.

If you watch competetive play there are actually many instances of supports laning with a solo laner for an extended period of time while the adc farms a lane solo. That lane may not even be bot lane! Differing strategic ideas=/=trolling.

nubulas22 votes

Obviously this is not competitive play. If I need help from my support, I don't think it too much to ask as adc.

If they leave for 15 out of 20 minutes and we lose all bot lane and then they start flaming me.....how is that helping the team?

The root issue here is that I weigh actions much more than words and all of you do the opposite.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

{quoted}

ok Riot,

I might go mute all silent, but prepare yourselves for 3 weeks of me doing the exact same thing these guys did to me. oh yeah, and I am reporting EVERY single person who complains about it.

...

So ok fine, you have recruited me to the troll team. If passive aggressive assholes is all you want in league, I will adjust.

Wait, so you are pissed that some people came into your neighborhood and smashed some windows, so you're going to go into another neighborhood (not even the one belonging to the people who broke your windows) and smash some more windows? That seems extremely asinine to me.

nubulas22 votes

Well since you want to dig deeper, here goes.....

This is not physical property or even actual damage to anyone. Trust me there have been several people I would have slapped hard if we were playing in the same room . Like the tahm kitch who keeps swallowing people and throwing them to the enemy team. Over and over. While flaming. Tell me that should be allowed.

Now that we understand that no real harm is being done...here is what is happening here.

I have been trolled to no end playing this game. I have told the trolls to fukoff, and got chat restricted for it. Twice. I have expressed my displeasure with the trolls and got a 14 day ban.....while the trolls have continued unchecked.

This tells me that the game is designed to encourage trolls and passive aggressive behavior.

So to that end, any time I am restricted or banned on any account for telling a troll to fukoff....I will then troll like hell for the duration of the ban by repeating the same actions that were done to me.

Here is a list:

Banning my champ in select. Antagonizing me in game with actions but not saying anything in chat. Harassing me in chat the whole game. Intentionally throwing through obvious actions in game.

These have been done to me, and so I will return them back anytime I find a troll in my games.

No I am not indiscriminately trolling the innocent..

But the second I get some asshole in game, I will give them all I can in return while not technically doing anything wrong. This will continue until there are no more trolls in my games, or RIOT fixes this ridiculous chat report system without even reviewing the game. Yes I realize it is too much effort to check all the reported games. It is equally ridiculous to ban me over text in chat.

Again, the core issue is that I am more concerned about actions While RIOT and most of you are more concerned about words.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Fighting fire with fire only works for actual firefighters.

You won't solve anything by adding to the toxicity in games, in fact you will most likely just push more people over the edge to become toxic.

Ellis Dee2 votes

so what is the solution, lets don't just point out flaws in other peoples plan with providing a better solution, it's a waste of words.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

You have 2 options. Either wait to show pick intent until after ban phase (for people who can't help but take it personally when somebody bans what they had selected, or show your pick intent anyways and trust the team to only ban it if they are afraid of the enemy team picking it.

nubulas21 votes

{quoted}

You have 2 options. Either wait to show pick intent until after ban phase (for people who can't help but take it personally when somebody bans what they had selected, or show your pick intent anyways and trust the team to only ban it if they are afraid of the enemy team picking it.

I have many options, I can use my ban to ban one of my team mates and then report them if they say anything negative about it.

I have lots of options and riot wants this or they wouldn't support the trolls who do it to me.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

{quoted}

I have lots of options and riot wants this or they wouldn't support the trolls who do it to me.

You are mistaking "inability to deal with a problem" for "intentional support of a problem." Riot does not like it when people troll, and they do punish people when they can catch them, but the process of catching and reviewing them is complicated and slow. Just because they aren't dealing with it efficiently does not mean that they want to support it.

Arguing that "they want this" just because you are taking it as a personal offense that they have difficulty stopping it is faulty reasoning. It's so simplistic. And it's actually manipulative of you to misrepresent the issue in this way.

I have many options, I can use my ban to ban one of my team mates and then report them if they say anything negative about it.

I was talking about how to avoid / deal with the possibility of people banning your pick. What you choose to do in retaliation is separate from avoiding the risk. It is up to you if you want to retaliate, but it's only going to ruin your match by killing any semblance of teamwork your team had left. Doing so is petty and childish, so I would hope that you have the maturity not to do so, but it's not like I can actually stop you if you want to do that.

I felt your pain, about getting your picks banned by teammates I mean. But when you talk like this, all childish and manipulative-like, it makes me lose all sympathy for you.

nubulas21 votes

Well almost Yeah I get all you are saying.

I just fast forward through all that and realize that there is no team work when people are assholes in select. The game is already lost at that point.

When support takes Cait and goes duo top and I am adc, my game is fuked and he IS doing it intentionally and we will NOT win. And it is NOT my fault and I am NOT the troll. BUt I get flamed for the loss. And I am expected to play above my ability to make up for their failed strategy.

And using a couple simple low level harsh words does NOT justify action against me.

So my solution is to relax and let them lose. I'm not that good to begin with, no way I can win 1v2 in any elo. So I know I am going to lose when the jungle shows up.

Why do people have the expectation of winning in every game? It is statistically improbable. Every win changes your next opponent. The whole system is designed to move you up until you can't win.

Yeah yeah it's alllllll my fault for logging in. Nothing they can do about it etc etc.

Now call me childish and antagonize me and stack on the guy getting trolled.

God I love this place.

I have my solution. I have fun my way, do what I want and report anyone who flames me for it.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Situations are flexible. They can be escalated or de-escalated. So long as they have not reached the point where a player has locked and stolen somebody else's role, it is possible to de-escalate things and make the team able to work together despite the rocky start.

Don't confuse me with the people who flamed you. I don't think that every game should be winnable, nor do I think it is your fault for logging in. There's nothing wrong with being frustrated, but if you want to be absolved of any responsibility for things going wrong in your game then you have to curb your instincts and avoid retaliating or escalating things.

Banning a teammate's pick in retaliation only serves to escalate the situation. It is incorrect to claim that it's out of your hands when you had a choice whether or not to do that.

Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because your teammates have wronged you does not make it okay to turn around and 'get' them back. Don't stoop to their level, just mute them and report them. Riot will deal with them.

Ellis Dee1 votes

yea but it's the way riot wants it so this is the playerbase.

nubulas21 votes

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yea but it's the way riot wants it so this is the playerbase.

yep thats my point right there........this is what they want.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

No it's really not how Riot wants it. As shown by the fact that they punish people who do shit to others.

nubulas21 votes

{quoted}

No it's really not how Riot wants it. As shown by the fact that they punish people who do shit to others.

But they only punish people fro reacting to the trolls, not the trolls.

I will give you lots of examples from now on.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

They punish trolls when it is brought to their attention, or when the troll's behavior is egregious enough to actually trigger the automated systems.

It's not that they are choosing to not punish them, it is that they cannot actually find them to punish.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

Yes, what you did was a bannable offense. Your expression of displeasure was simply toxic. You harassed your teammates, insulting them, you were being extremely negative and saying "kys" is zero-tolerance. Also, yes it is wrong to call out players in the game due to it creating a negative experience for everyone on your team. You showed that you had no intention working with your team and giving up in general. Your so-called adjustment will only give you more penalties while you only have 4 in general. I would not recommend you to continue doing so or you might end up with a permaban.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Telling someone to kill themselves is never accepted and Riot skips previous tiers and sends you straight to a 14 day ban for it.

nubulas21 votes

already covered this 4 times, I was unaware it was kill yourself, and even though I think that is still stupid AF, it isnt what I meant to say.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I really doubt you thought that meant kill steal. I don't see a Y in kill steal...

nubulas21 votes

Not going to keep repeating it, but no I didn't even think about it. I had never heard of "kill yourself" and while I don't think it is anything to get upset about, it is not something I would ever use myself. It just seems so weak. Its one of those new weak insults little kids use these days. Has no weight.

But KS does sound like kayess, which I had often used in games and I assumed KYS was shortened form.

This is simple ignorance on my part. Nothing more but not the main part of the issue.

I receive trolling actions, I respond with harsh words, and I get banned.

So now I will respond with trollish actions and say nice words. See how everyone likes receiving what I have received.

Do unto others as they do unto you.

nubulas21 votes

{quoted}

Telling someone to kill themselves is never accepted and Riot skips previous tiers and sends you straight to a 14 day ban for it.

yeah because people will actually die from it ...... eye roll....dumbass bullshit

General Esdeath 1 votes

Actually some people have done it. But of course you have the philosophy of "Everyone is like me, and wouldn't do it" or something equally as stupid.

https://i.imgur.com/dTDNXC2.png

nubulas21 votes

{quoted}

Actually some people have done it. But of course you have the philosophy of "Everyone is like me, and wouldn't do it" or something equally as stupid.

https://i.imgur.com/dTDNXC2.png

no you just failed to read or understand what I have said

nubulas22 votes

{quoted}

no you just failed to read or understand what I have said

oh wait you mean that people have died from text??????????? very unlikely

anyone who dies from text was dying anyway.

General Esdeath 2 votes

So that makes it OK to drive them to it? Generally when you see someone on that path, you help them, you don't make it worse for them.

nubulas22 votes

{quoted}

So that makes it OK to drive them to it? Generally when you see someone on that path, you help them, you don't make it worse for them.

If thats all it takes to "drive them" to it, its over. And in any case it's not my concern to save the world or people who want to leave it.

nubulas21 votes

{quoted}

So that makes it OK to drive them to it? Generally when you see someone on that path, you help them, you don't make it worse for them.

you are so naive , no one is being driven to anything, it is their choice, let them make it, move on , next.

Not my concern to help these people, even if I wanted to.

I don't see anyone rushing over to help anybody, all you are doing is bleeding for them from a distance.

General Esdeath 2 votes

I help the few people I meet like that. It's called being a decent human.

Magnum OMNiCiDE1 votes

Honestly best way to deal with idiots is to just mute them and there pings and move on. Doesn't matter if you want to hear what they say, you are playing the game for the game not the people.

nubulas21 votes

you are correct.

I am now /mute all and mute pings .....but also doing whatever I want from now on. Don't care what roles or lanes, play whatever champ I feel like and do whatever I feel like doing. Why try and get trolled and flamed and reported and banned when you can just roam around "having fun".

You are absolutely correct.....all fum from now on......maybe after this account ban is up , I might give it another go at playing to win, prolly not though.

The only real defense against trolls is be one first. And thanks to all the people I have played with the last couple of months, I see that to be true. While I fight and kill and make an effort to improve my mechanical play, I have no regard for whether we win or not.. and probably never will again.

nubulas21 votes

We have a winner.

You are a wise man.

This is my plan for after the ban. /mute all every game right at the beginning.

KrushakArrankiss1 votes

To me you were being toxic, even if they were throwing the game and causing issues. No reason to say fuck it I'm done. No reason to say KYS or anything. Sorry buddy.

nubulas21 votes

Your goddamned right I was toxic. But what you fail to consider is what was being done to ME. I was reacting to toxic trolls with a toxic response.

I just love how everyone assumes I started all this unprovoked.

If some random guy walked up to us in the street and spit in our face and slapped our girlfriends, what would you do? Would be all nice and use nice words and NOT be toxic???????

I wouldn't. I would respond with extreme violence. Not sure why people expect me to do any differently online when no actual harm is done.

And before you answer in some absurd manner let me tell you the real reason for this experiment.

I watch the reaction from people when I do troll them, and guess what? They respond the same way I did. HHHmmmm.

A very small number of people just mute and play as if nothing happened.

Which is what I will do when the ban restriction is over.

Nothing good is ever said in chat anyway.

Ellis Dee1 votes

yes there are reasons, plenty. to say anything else is pure ignorance. you can force yourself to get past it but i've come across hundreds of reasons to give up or get angry.

nubulas21 votes

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yes there are reasons, plenty. to say anything else is pure ignorance. you can force yourself to get past it but i've come across hundreds of reasons to give up or get angry.

reasons? ...oh I am way past angry,

Solution? there is no solution..... I just want to be a part of the new community.

I made a list of actual solutions in another post. None of them will ever be implemented.

The biggest one is to charge 60 dollars for the game. Make it truly balanced with no broken bullshit champs. Fix the elo system. I played chess for years and I was never matched against people so far above me that I had no chance to win. I consistently play against people 2 major divisions above me in league. No one in my game should be a major division above me, on either team.

It's a long list.....none f it will ever happen.

But all my suggestions make it a different game.

nubulas21 votes

You are completely missing my point.

I have no intention of solving anything.

When I experience trollish behavior in the future, I will respond with same, but use nice words, because that is what matters.

And so far things are going great.

Some recent highlights:

When whiny ADCs start bitching and flaming me as support, I just back off and let them do whatever they do. If we lose lane, oh well.

Not worried about it anymore. Not trying to explain basic strategy or make suggestions or ask for help. Nope. I might get 3 or 4 cs out of 30 while zoning the enemy adc so hard they only have 10 or 15. And my adc will still flame me.....ok , watch what happens when I stop harassing the enemy.....gud luk.

3 team mates have banned my champ in select this week....those games didn't go well either. Be a troll, receive nothing from me.

No leash? , ok , I just farm or try out a new item , and don't worry about ganks. If you carry without me, great, if not, oh well. Give troll , receive troll. "Hey where's my gank?" "It's in the box with my leash." /mute all

A Tahm Kitch decided to troll me by swallowing me and putting me between 3 enemies. .....5 times. He is Gold 5.....lost that one. Reported him, but riot doesn't care. His account remained active for several weeks after an detailed report submitted to the help desk. I have played with 4 or 5 of these guys. First time you troll me with champ abilities, I'm done.

If I am walking to a buff in my jung and its under 20 minutes, and you race me to it and take it, I'm done. Gud luk. I even danger ping, and on the way ping and they take it anyway. OK done. Have nice day. Of course they go die and give it to the other team, then start flaming for their failure.

Nothing wrong with losing a few games. I only want to win one a day. And don't really need to win any.

nubulas21 votes

Some people just wanna FF at 15. Let them. Just log off man, uninstall.

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