I have been banned 6 times but riot could of prevented it(READ BEFORE DOWNVOTING INTO OBLIVION!)

hunterspec·Oct 29, 2016·5 votes·3,201 views

so had my 6th account banned today, nothing new, didn't surprise me however i could of still been on my original account and giving riot tons of more money(i don't spend anymore now) and been happy ever after and no one would have to suffer from my toxicity.

now all you are saying it's my fault you should be ip banned kys etc.

Now why is it their fault? i was on my first account just got done with my 14 day suspension, so one more strike and it's over, i went to riot support and asked can you **please please PERM chat ban **me so i won't get my account perm banned? it's the only way and it will help you out to since no one will have to listen to me being toxic, who the hell loses in this situation?

no one.

but they refused and wouldn't do it, why? I don't understand. Because you couldn't do something so simple I'm going to number 7, going for tyler1 lvls.

i know i'll still get downvoted but they still should of perm chat banned when i asked for it....

62 Comments

ModPrandineOct 29, 201613 votes

If you've gotten 6 account bans then the problem is you, not Riot. It is not Riot's job to babysit you 24/7. They provide you with the tools needed to help prevent toxicity, but it's up to you to use them when need be. Also, Riot did try permamutes once in the form of ever increasing chat restrictions, and what they found was that people with especially high amounts of chat restrictions would just switch to gameplay trolling instead (i.e. intentionally feeding/afking, intentionally taking other peoples roles/champions just to spite them, intentionally using abilities such as Anivias wall to trap teammates in with the enemies, etc.). It's because of that that Riot designed this new system of punishment, to get rid of the troublemakers faster.

Bottom line: It is your job to exhibit self-control and to use the tools necessary to help prevent/curb toxicity, not Riots. Even if they did give you what you wanted, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't just switch to gameplay trolling instead whenever you got mad at someone for not giving you your way. Either shape up or ship out: those are your only options at this point.

LXIIOct 29, 201610 votes

"Riot can you please give me self control?"

Mister PunchesOct 30, 20168 votes

You could just mute everyone in your game.

You could also just scream at your screen instead of taking time out of the game to degrade and berate someone online.

You could also just buy a $1.00 stress ball at the dollar store.

You can also just learn from your bans rather than evading it and continuing on and ruining other players' experiences.

The greatest common factor in your toxicity is not Riot, or League. The greatest common factor in your toxicity is you. Please don't try to mimic Tyler1, because he's the kind of player Riot explicitly stated that they don't want as part of their community.

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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You could just mute everyone in your game.

You could also just scream at your screen instead of taking time out of the game to degrade and berate someone online.

You could also just buy a $1.00 stress ball at the dollar store.

You can also just learn from your bans rather than evading it and continuing on and ruining other players' experiences.

The greatest common factor in your toxicity is not Riot, or League. The greatest common factor in your toxicity is you. Please don't try to mimic Tyler1, because he's the kind of player Riot explicitly stated that they don't want as part of their community.

Oh wow I didn't know muting made it so you cannot type in chat! My bad!

Mister PunchesOct 30, 20162 votes

It doesn't, but when you mute people, you don't get to see the stuff they say, and they don't get to see the verbal abuse that you decide to throw out.

Besides, even with a permanent chat restriction, you could still easily do other toxic things like intentionally feeding, ping spamming your team, or just being a general nuisance to your team.

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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It doesn't, but when you mute people, you don't get to see the stuff they say, and they don't get to see the verbal abuse that you decide to throw out.

Besides, even with a permanent chat restriction, you could still easily do other toxic things like intentionally feeding, ping spamming your team, or just being a general nuisance to your team.

like the game I just played where my teammates said I sucked never play kalista again and I instantly built 3 GA and ran it down mid? How is that my fault?[slayer-jinx-catface]

then the guy that just said I sucked said "plsss no"

AeroWaffleOct 30, 20163 votes

So far, I have seen no reason for Riot to accommodate you in any way, other than possibly taking some extra effort to track down all your accounts rather than just one at a time.

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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So far, I have seen no reason for Riot to accommodate you in any way, other than possibly taking some extra effort to track down all your accounts rather than just one at a time.

here come the riot police fanboys weee woooo

well lucky for you they don't do ip bans. [slayer-jinx-wink] if they do, I always got my vpon on standby

AeroWaffleOct 30, 20165 votes

I find it strange. What's it like? You revel in being a horrible person. Do you act this way in your real social life or do you only behave this way when the social consequences are not present?

I just don't understand why people like you actually strive to be a nuisance.

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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I find it strange. What's it like? You revel in being a horrible person. Do you act this way in your real social life or do you only behave this way when the social consequences are not present?

I just don't understand why people like you actually strive to be a nuisance.

well let's see, people irl don't piss me off nearly as much as they do in game. let's put it that way. sufficient answer for you?

AeroWaffleOct 30, 20164 votes

No, I don't believe that. Unless you're also willing to admit you're a hypocrite.

You've already established that you show poor behavior in chat, by requesting Riot mute you. But when you are insulted, you throw a temper tantrum and start intentionally feeding.

Are you the only one allowed to dish it out?

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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No, I don't believe that. Unless you're also willing to admit you're a hypocrite.

You've already established that you show poor behavior in chat, by requesting Riot mute you. But when you are insulted, you throw a temper tantrum and start intentionally feeding.

Are you the only one allowed to dish it out?

well you don't have to believe me. Well I would just say fuck you and keep playing but the account I was playing on was a account to mess around on hence why i was playing kalista so I didn't really care if I lost on, the 6th account I got banned as mentioned above I got called shit garbage etc and I still played. so no, incorrect, I used to feed but since I found out you actually could get punished for it I stopped it.

Raven EffectOct 30, 20164 votes

Wow, you are just in general, an asshole. You just proved the point everyone said. You went to buy 3 GA on Kalista because someone said you're garbage, jeez. I'm not surprised you got yourself 6 accounts banned. And you still want Riot to give you a chance when you just proved you would be annoying one way or another.

Mister PunchesNov 2, 20161 votes

Your teammates don't control your actions. If you have to blame your teammates for YOUR actions, then it is not your teammates that are the problem in your games. It is YOU who is the problem in your games.

The greatest common factor in your games is not your teammates because chances are, you won't run into the same person over and over again on a constant basis unless you are a premade with them. The greatest common factor isn't really League either, because if League was the greatest common factor in your toxicity, it would mean that 100% of the community is toxic. The greatest common factor in why you're toxic is YOURSELF. YOU are to blame for YOUR actions, and YOUR toxicity.

I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you. Please don't be the child having a tantrum when you know full well that YOU are the reason for your toxicity, not the game, not your teammates, but YOU.

SilhouettoOct 30, 20162 votes

Rather than asking rito to make you not be able to speak, you should learn some self control. The art of just letting things go rather than exploding on teammates is a great skill to have and works even better than a chat perm-ban.

OnlyYouCanHearMeOct 29, 20167 votes

It's not Riot's job to enforce your self control. You know you have the issue. Disable your own chat. Problem solved.

AeroWaffleOct 29, 20167 votes

I mean, it's your time to waste. It doesn't take too much effort to ban you each time compared to the time and effort involved leveling up each account.

Controling yourself in chat requires a bare minimum of self-control. I garentee that if Riot were to chat ban you at your request, you would have just shown your anger in other ways in the game through trolling.

hunterspecOct 29, 20161 votes

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I mean, it's your time to waste. It doesn't take too much effort to ban you each time compared to the time and effort involved leveling up each account.

Controling yourself in chat requires a bare minimum of self-control. I garentee that if Riot were to chat ban you at your request, you would have just shown your anger in other ways in the game through trolling.

Well I got slightly better toxic wise. Now it's most of "no ff @20? Ok afk"

AeroWaffleOct 29, 20166 votes

Still pretty scummy thing to do.

You're not the only human in your game. Have you no sense of remorse for how you treat others?

hunterspecOct 29, 20161 votes

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Still pretty scummy thing to do.

You're not the only human in your game. Have you no sense of remorse for how you treat others?

no sadly. look at the bright side, at least I don't yell at my teammates nearly as much for going 1-10. last game playing support my adc was 1-10 didn't even notice I was to busy dealing with my other 3 yelling at me for afking. I was just yelling at my adc to buy exe calling for swain

EvilDustManOct 30, 20165 votes

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no sadly. look at the bright side, at least I don't yell at my teammates nearly as much for going 1-10. last game playing support my adc was 1-10 didn't even notice I was to busy dealing with my other 3 yelling at me for afking. I was just yelling at my adc to buy exe calling for swain

How many bans will it take to teach you we don't want players like you?

AnomanderOct 29, 20165 votes

Don't blame riot because your lack self control.

Riot did lots of research on behavior of players in the older system where people could for all intent and purpose be perma chat banned and found that they players were just toxic in other ways.

I would love to see a Ip ban on people who have had multiple accounts banned but Riot won't because it might punish a innocent person.

Bottom line you are responsible for your own actions and were aware of the rules. You chose to act this way. Stop blaming others for your actions.

Maybe you should stop playing. You won't be missed.

hunterspecOct 29, 20161 votes

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Don't blame riot because your lack self control.

Riot did lots of research on behavior of players in the older system where people could for all intent and purpose be perma chat banned and found that they players were just toxic in other ways.

I would love to see a Ip ban on people who have had multiple accounts banned but Riot won't because it might punish a innocent person.

Bottom line you are responsible for your own actions and were aware of the rules. You chose to act this way. Stop blaming others for your actions.

Maybe you should stop playing. You won't be missed.

Why would I stop playing a game I enjoy?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 29, 20161 votes

enjoy it with out being an toxic assclown?

BeatzBoyFTWNov 5, 20164 votes

i went to riot support and asked can you please please PERM chat ban me so i won't get my account perm banned? it's the only way and it will help you out to since no one will have to listen to me being toxic

Perma-chat will never work.

Let me ask you this: Why do you have to be toxic to your teammates? Imho, I'm very sure it is just to:

attempting to piss off your teammates for their mistakes.
taunt unnecessarily.
just plain angry or having a bad day, & wanted to take it all out on your own teammates.

Now let's say you got perma-chat, and you think you're all safe now from being toxic to your teammates, aye? Well guess what? You're not.

Another game doesn't go your way, so you got frustrated all over again, and let's be real, no one is dumb enough to still continue using the chat system when no one's reading it. Yeah, you would think that throwing stuffs around or shouting at the computer screen may be ironically embarrassing & bad mannered, assuming you're living with your family or friends. So what do you do as a last resort:

#AFK or Intentionally Feed

You heard me, this is definitely what you would do to express your frustration. Any excuses you have in mind thinking my statement is dumb, keep reading the bolded text in my last paragraph.

MXXXXXLOct 30, 20163 votes

How the fuck is it Riot's fault you can't NOT be toxic in chat?

KinetikaOct 30, 20163 votes

"It's someone else's fault that I behave like a jackass."

Love, Millenials

SilhouettoOct 30, 20161 votes

Lol. Ay burruh, them is fighting words. XD

Rajin Kajin Oct 30, 20163 votes

Lol dude you can't control yourself? What? Why are you playing this game? How can you function in daily life? You have bigger problems than league, my friend.

hunterspecOct 30, 20161 votes

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Lol dude you can't control yourself? What? Why are you playing this game? How can you function in daily life? You have bigger problems than league, my friend.

I already answered this to another guy, no one irl makes me as angry as this game does.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoOct 29, 20162 votes

you dont need them to perm chat ban you from stopping you from being toxic... its kinda like a serial rapist saying if you castrate me i wont rape...

you are responsible for how you acted because you were the one to commits the things you did no one else... the over all issue is lack of maturity and lack of responsibility for ones own actions

chances are you are the one who gets mad and cussing at the cop who pulls you over for speeding doing 75mph in 60mph highway and point out that others were speeding too and and its not fair

Jo0oOct 30, 20162 votes

Lean how to shut up without somebody else shutting you up.

HellpyreOct 30, 20162 votes

See, the key thing is that you make the decision to go into chat, even when you know you're being toxic. That's your decision. It's the same if you AFK - no one else is making you do it, you're just being extremely toxic and actively ruining the game for the other players. In as much as Riot should be helping, they've done that by banning you, several times. If that doesn't say to you "I should change my behavior," instead of "It's not my fault, I shouldn't be expected to act like an adult," you aren't wanted in the game, and you'll keep being banned by Riot.

Satans AtlasOct 30, 20162 votes

I've been playing since beta, never been banned. Just be nice, and you won't be banned...

midnight oil24Nov 2, 20162 votes

While you admit to being toxic, you need to realize that Riot's job is not to make exceptions, it's to make a game that is fun for those who don't spew vitriol

Vormulac UnsleepOct 29, 20161 votes

I agree with you completely. If they had an option and you took the step of asking, it's on them.

Of course, it was already on them since they're soooo concerned with words in a box and not the ACTIONS of shit players and trolls who inspire them.

AeroWaffleOct 29, 20168 votes

No. It's on you. You're responsible for your actions, not Riot.

lenny00Oct 31, 20161 votes

i dont think u should be getting banned for talking shit in an online video game. xbox didnt ban me when i called som1 shit in halo. the fun of multiplayer games is being better than the person you're playing against then calling them shit afterwards. i dont personally do this because riot likes to treat everyone like babies and would rather not have an account be banned. why cant i call the jayce i solo killed 4 times bad? why i cant i tell me teammate their bad for rushing in 1v5? im not personally assaulting them. im calling them bad at a video game. its not like im walking up to a teacher and saying "you're ass at teaching." no. im calling them bad in an online videogame.

now if i was saying the N word or saying homophobic terms that is verbal assault. but being passive aggressive or having a "negative attitude" can get me banned? cmon riot

ModPrandineNov 2, 2016

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i dont think u should be getting banned for talking shit in an online video game. xbox didnt ban me when i called som1 shit in halo. the fun of multiplayer games is being better than the person you're playing against then calling them shit afterwards. i dont personally do this because riot likes to treat everyone like babies and would rather not have an account be banned. why cant i call the jayce i solo killed 4 times bad? why i cant i tell me teammate their bad for rushing in 1v5? im not personally assaulting them. im calling them bad at a video game. its not like im walking up to a teacher and saying "you're ass at teaching." no. im calling them bad in an online videogame.

now if i was saying the N word or saying homophobic terms that is verbal assault. but being passive aggressive or having a "negative attitude" can get me banned? cmon riot

Why? Because they're already annoyed at having a bad game/making a mistake and they don't need you to further drag them down than they already are. Not only that but it's poor sportsmanship as well also (and yes the stuff that gets you in trouble here would also get you in trouble in other professional sports as well). You may think it's fun to harass others but others don't. It's not about "treating everyone like babies" it's about being mature and respectful enough not to be a jerk to other people. We don't have to like every single person that we come across but we do need to be mature and respectful to know that harassing others isn't okay or needed (there are better ways to get your point across than insulting someone you know).

lenny00Nov 5, 20161 votes

because its a video game. have you ever seen a hockey match? people shit talk all the time and nothing happens unless they fight. trash talk is a part of competitive sports. and we're also taking in a account this is an online game.

ModPrandineNov 5, 2016

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because its a video game. have you ever seen a hockey match? people shit talk all the time and nothing happens unless they fight. trash talk is a part of competitive sports. and we're also taking in a account this is an online game.

From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

Trash talk is part of all competitive sports. It happens all the time in the pros.

Yes and no. Yes, trash talk occurs, but it has definite limits. Most of the things that are punished in game (racial, ethnic and homophobic slurs, sexism, etc.) would also earn you a hefty fine in professional sports.

A Tumblr List of NBA Fines (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/) (My personal favorite on that site is this indefinite suspension (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/post/1010368028/3-12-96-the-nba-suspended-mahmoud-abdul-rauf-den), simply for refusing to stand during the National Anthem.)

A List of NFL Fines for Taunting (http://www.spotrac.com/fines-tracker/nfl/all-years/fines/taunting/)

NBC Article on Fines Agreed to by the NFLPA (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/01/bizarrely-specific-nfl-fines-come-from-agreed-league-union-schedule/) "Excessive profanity or other unsportsmanlike conduct triggers a minimum fine of $10,500."

NHL Office of Player Safety (http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/playersafety) Brendan Shanahan is the ****ing Bad Santa of the NHL. Did you know that his Office of Player Safety watches every minute of every game, from multiple angles? He sees and hears EVERYTHING, including swearing.

... and the grand finale! Marge Schott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott), who was forced out of ownership of the Cincinnati Reds for racist comments and pro-Nazi sentiments.

lenny00Nov 8, 20161 votes

Yes and no. Yes, trash talk occurs, but it has definite limits. Most of the things that are punished in game (racial, ethnic and homophobic slurs, sexism, etc.) would also earn you a hefty fine in professional sports. A Tumblr List of NBA Fines (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/) (My personal favorite on that site is this indefinite suspension ( simply for refusing to stand during the National Anthem.) A List of NFL Fines for Taunting (http://www.spotrac.com/fines-tracker/nfl/all-years/fines/taunting/) NBC Article on Fines Agreed to by the NFLPA (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/01/bizarrely-specific-nfl-fines-come-from-agreed-league-union-schedule/) "Excessive profanity or other unsportsmanlike conduct triggers a minimum fine of $10,500." NHL Office of Player Safety (http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/playersafety) Brendan Shanahan is the **ing Bad Santa of the NHL. Did you know that his Office of Player Safety watches every minute of every game, from multiple angles? He sees and hears EVERYTHING, including swearing. ... and the grand finale! Marge Schott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott), who was forced out of ownership of the Cincinnati Reds for racist comments and pro-Nazi sentiments.

All of these are extreme cases. Cincinnati Reds for racist comments and pro-Nazi sentiments. I already said if its racist or offensive to anyone then it's crossing a line. Taunting som1 irl is like asking for somebodies address in league. All of these have nothing to do with saying your team is shit. All of these are either racist, wanting to fight them, or threatening them. I mean trash talk by "wow you're really ass at basketball you should just retire like you're not even good as a high-schooler" or something along those lines. Their all extreme cases. Like i said in my first post verbal assault isnt accabtable. If i called a member of the opposite team in basketball shit because i just "crossed" him then the NBA coaches don't care. It's a part of every sport.

hunterspecNov 10, 20161 votes

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Why? Because they're already annoyed at having a bad game/making a mistake and they don't need you to further drag them down than they already are. Not only that but it's poor sportsmanship as well also (and yes the stuff that gets you in trouble here would also get you in trouble in other professional sports as well). You may think it's fun to harass others but others don't. It's not about "treating everyone like babies" it's about being mature and respectful enough not to be a jerk to other people. We don't have to like every single person that we come across but we do need to be mature and respectful to know that harassing others isn't okay or needed (there are better ways to get your point across than insulting someone you know).

i cannot get in trouble irl for saying someone is garbage

ManaricelleOct 31, 20161 votes

I love how toxic individuals always flaunt that they could be spending money in a game if they werent banned. Your little donation of cash here and there isnt gonna have Riot hurting when there are hundreds upon thousands of non toxic players more than happy to spend their money in their game AND create a better community by exercising self control and manners.

I will take "How to Foster a Great Community" for 500 Alex.

hunterspecOct 31, 20161 votes

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I love how toxic individuals always flaunt that they could be spending money in a game if they werent banned. Your little donation of cash here and there isnt gonna have Riot hurting when there are hundreds upon thousands of non toxic players more than happy to spend their money in their game AND create a better community by exercising self control and manners.

I will take "How to Foster a Great Community" for 500 Alex.

it isn't? I thought riot was the greediest company on the planet. I'm surprised they won't let you buy your account back tbh.

FurriesAreHotOct 31, 20161 votes

While your logic is twisted and insane, atleast you admit to being toxic. Best way to prevent toxicity: Mute all, listen to your favorite dank tunes, have a cup of your favorite fruit flavored beverage, and have a punching pillow nearby

IreliavenceNov 10, 20161 votes

wow, you exist.

Ada WongNov 11, 20161 votes

**BUT WAIT ! **

There is a point to this...

Why doesn't Riot just give an option in "Interrface" to turn off "All Chat" Including "YOUR OWN TEAM" You can't see anything or type anything to anyone.

TrulyBlandNov 11, 20161 votes

Because you can already mute everybody with the same effect, and it makes no sense to add an interface option for something that can already be done with the tiniest effort, only to cater to the "needs" of an unwanted minority of what is already a kinda unwanted minority of the playerbase.

Ada WongNov 12, 20161 votes

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Because you can already mute everybody with the same effect, and it makes no sense to add an interface option for something that can already be done with the tiniest effort, only to cater to the "needs" of an unwanted minority of what is already a kinda unwanted minority of the playerbase.

Yeah I get your point I already do this in game not everyone is aware of it though, in Over Watch I find myself having to mute everyone as at the start of a match people start talking trash before the game even starts.