Challenge: Play 5 games with me and not lose 2 of them.

ReadyxPlayerxOne·Jan 24, 2016·3 votes·2,019 views

I believe I'm at an MMR that's impossible to win. I just had my entire team go 0/4 or worse. I had the only kills on the team. literally... I killed 2 people and the other team farmed 25+ kills.

What is being done about these players? They get to be so bad they ruin ranked for people and still get to play ranked?

Why is "banned from ranked" not a thing?

I have a standing challenge. Play 5 games with me. At my MMR. If you can win 4/5 I will change my position on this and accept I'm not good.

But until then. I think certain players just need to be banned from ranked queue.

We can set it up so that for 10 games you have to play normal, 25 games normal, 2 weeks can't rank, banned from rank. This is needed. It's not OK to have someone scream "I CAN ONLY JG" and then feed 0/6. Or the hundreds of other bullshit reasons why certain players shouldn't be in ranked.

78 Comments

RandomoniumJan 24, 201612 votes

The real question is why are you posting this thread on a level 8 smurf rather than the account you actually play ranked on? Looks like you don't want people to see you stats.

ReadyxPlayerxOneJan 24, 20161 votes

I felt like it? Great job at trolling.

RandomoniumJan 24, 20166 votes

Oh its not a troll. If you actually believed that your team was to blame you would have posted on your main account because you wouldn't be worried about people looking at your stats. Since you posted it on your level 8 though that raises a lot of doubts in my mind about the sincerity of your post. Post with your main account if you have nothing to fear. That's my challenge to you.

EDIT: Used the match history you provided to look up your stats. I don't know what you're complaining about really. You have a 50% win rate so far this season in ranked. Based on your other stats that win rate seems about right to me since your stats aren't great or horrible. You're right where you belong though if you work on your mechanics and decision making a bit more you should rise in ranked pretty easily.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 1, 20161 votes

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Oh its not a troll. If you actually believed that your team was to blame you would have posted on your main account because you wouldn't be worried about people looking at your stats. Since you posted it on your level 8 though that raises a lot of doubts in my mind about the sincerity of your post. Post with your main account if you have nothing to fear. That's my challenge to you.

EDIT: Used the match history you provided to look up your stats. I don't know what you're complaining about really. You have a 50% win rate so far this season in ranked. Based on your other stats that win rate seems about right to me since your stats aren't great or horrible. You're right where you belong though if you work on your mechanics and decision making a bit more you should rise in ranked pretty easily.

This is absurd logic.

I don't know what you're looking at but my stats are epic. They don't look that way due to how hard I try to fight off losses. For example. I just had a 9/0 draven at 13 minutes. I roamed after getting a tower at 9 minutes and nearly a second at 13-14 minutes and was trying to help my 0/4 midlaner and 0/3 top. They specifically FLAMED ME for going into their lanes and helping gank. I helped both lanes get towers while dying twice. I went to buy and a team fight in mid broke out, everyone on my team died. And I died holding our inhib tower. This lead to a lux that was fed as all hell and killed anyone she got a q on. I ended that game 11/7/3 nothing special right? cept I had 300 cs in a 25 minute game and was the entire reason it wasn't over at 18 minutes fighting on an adc with almost no cc 5 players while my team constantly died. Literally told them to just build tank and peel for me and I'd do the rest and they refused. That isn't my "stats" not being great... that's me being unable to carry team mates that might as well have been beginner bots.

I'm frustrated that there seems to be nothing to group people with their actual skill level and everything to do with luck at the lower levels of ranked and it's even more frustrating because people like you think that means I'm bad and are entitled to superiority and bragging rights cause their not bronze.

You think the way you think, you're a troll. Simple as that. Prove me wrong. Accept my challenge.

DREADN0UGHTFeb 1, 20163 votes

You call anyone who doesn't agree with you "troll" . what are you trying to get at?

RandomoniumFeb 2, 20162 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xReadyPlayerOnex

That game did not happen recently because its not in your match history so I don't know if you are delusional or lying. You had a game recently on Draven where you went 11/7/2 that was a NORMAL game where you only got 183 CS in 30 minutes. That's over 100 cs less than you claim. 300+ CS in a 25 minute game would mean that you were averaging 12 cs/min which is pretty much physically impossible. You'd have to be farming multiple lanes simultaneously to achieve a CS score that high.

And as far as your story of your team "constantly dying" in that game you were tied for most deaths on your team. If you want to prove me wrong post the actual match history so we can see who died when, what your builds were, and how your team lost.

Your challenge is pointless because there are thousands of elo boosters who boost people to diamond in a couple weeks even if the person starts out in bronze 5. Your challenge is also pointless because people who have smurfs can start out in bronze and wind up back at their main accounts level by the end of the season. There are tons of youtubers who make tons of videos on getting a smurf to diamond in a couple months. If all of these people can do it (not to mention the countless other people who have climbed) then why can't you? If you're so good then why can't you climb when everyone else can?

Also, I don't understand why you are being disrespectful to me. I've treated you with nothing but respect and you are acting like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 2, 20161 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xReadyPlayerOnex

That game did not happen recently because its not in your match history so I don't know if you are delusional or lying. You had a game recently on Draven where you went 11/7/2 that was a NORMAL game where you only got 183 CS in 30 minutes. That's over 100 cs less than you claim. 300+ CS in a 25 minute game would mean that you were averaging 12 cs/min which is pretty much physically impossible. You'd have to be farming multiple lanes simultaneously to achieve a CS score that high.

And as far as your story of your team "constantly dying" in that game you were tied for most deaths on your team. If you want to prove me wrong post the actual match history so we can see who died when, what your builds were, and how your team lost.

Your challenge is pointless because there are thousands of elo boosters who boost people to diamond in a couple weeks even if the person starts out in bronze 5. Your challenge is also pointless because people who have smurfs can start out in bronze and wind up back at their main accounts level by the end of the season. There are tons of youtubers who make tons of videos on getting a smurf to diamond in a couple months. If all of these people can do it (not to mention the countless other people who have climbed) then why can't you? If you're so good then why can't you climb when everyone else can?

Also, I don't understand why you are being disrespectful to me. I've treated you with nothing but respect and you are acting like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum.

You're saying that a player that's DOUBLED the gold of 2 players on his team and has 6k gold more than the player behind them isn't carrying in the extreme? Sure, i ended 11/7/2 in the game you're looking at (and if you think that's the game I was thinking about maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong) and in that game the people who I was tied for "most deaths" with were 0/7. 4 of those deaths were 1v5 against the enemy team as I tried to hold them back after my team wiped without any chance of helping them. I can post the game but what's the point? You seem hell bent on mocking me or disproving what I've said.

I'm not asking for an ELO boost... I'm asking you win 4 out of 5 games with me at the MMR I play at and see if ANYONE is capable of such a feat. Thus far no one has whether they are an elo booster or not. You can look at any one game and tear it apart. I could easily do the same to you. It doesn't change the fact that no matter how hard I try, my team mates make games that I queue into impossible to win. Please, next time you wanna be respected. 1. Be respectful 2. be respectable.

Challenge stands. Win 4 of 5 games. To this day it hasn't been answered.

RandomoniumFeb 2, 20162 votes

Post the link for the match then if you have nothing to hide. Right now it looks like you're trying to hide something since you exaggerated your cs numbers by over 100.

I'm not looking at one game. I'm looking at all of your games. YOU are picking out one game where you did "good." I am showing you that even when you think you do "good" you really aren't doing that well. There are plenty of games in your match history where you don't do well or you don't carry.

People boost out of your elo all the time. Hell, even I was able to climb out of Bronze 4 without too much difficulty once I stopped blaming others for my mistakes. Hundreds of thousands of people have been in the position you are in now and have been able to climb. There is no conspiracy. There is no elo hell. The only common denominator in all your games is you.

Nothing I have said has been disrespectful. What it has been is the honest truth. If you talk to ANY high elo player they will tell you the secret for climbing is stop blaming your team. The only person you can control is yourself. The other team has bad players just like your team. The problem is that the good players on the other team are better than you. Put very bluntly, you aren't carrying hard enough.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Post the link for the match then if you have nothing to hide. Right now it looks like you're trying to hide something since you exaggerated your cs numbers by over 100.

I'm not looking at one game. I'm looking at all of your games. YOU are picking out one game where you did "good." I am showing you that even when you think you do "good" you really aren't doing that well. There are plenty of games in your match history where you don't do well or you don't carry.

People boost out of your elo all the time. Hell, even I was able to climb out of Bronze 4 without too much difficulty once I stopped blaming others for my mistakes. Hundreds of thousands of people have been in the position you are in now and have been able to climb. There is no conspiracy. There is no elo hell. The only common denominator in all your games is you.

Nothing I have said has been disrespectful. What it has been is the honest truth. If you talk to ANY high elo player they will tell you the secret for climbing is stop blaming your team. The only person you can control is yourself. The other team has bad players just like your team. The problem is that the good players on the other team are better than you. Put very bluntly, you aren't carrying hard enough.

If the shoe fits and all that. From my perspective you're just blaming me without ever playing with me and assuming things you can't possibly know. You make the common assumption that people in bronze "deserve" to be there. You think that you're showing me objective information when it's just not true. There's a difference between being disrespectful and being respectable. Maybe you'll understand that. Whatever you say next is irrelevant as I've lost all respect for you and don't feel like arguing with a wall as it's purely a waste of my time.

RandomoniumFeb 2, 20164 votes

I never made the assumption that bronze people deserve to be there. I came to the conclusion that YOU deserve to be there by analyzing your statistics and listening to you logic and arguments. Bronze is as much a mentality as it is your mechanics and decision making and you have a very bronze/silver mentality.

Why are you so resistant to people telling you that you aren't stuck in bronze? You're like a prisoner in a prison with no guards and no locks. You are free to leave the prison whenever you want as soon as you accept that you aren't a prisoner. This concept of elo hell is honestly all in your head. You should be happy about that. You should take solace in the fact that hundreds of thousands of people like you have climbed out of bronze. That's a huge support network of people who are TRYING TO HELP YOU. But instead realizing that people are trying to help you you instantly dismiss them because their opinion disagrees with yours. You're like an addict who shuns his family because his family refuses to support his use of drugs.

I was right where you were when I first started. Bitter. Always blaming my team. And then I took a hard, honest look at myself and realized my mechanics and my decision making were shit compared to high level players. It wasn't until I came to that conclusion and stopped blaming others for my problems that I started to climb. I hope you climb, I really do. However, until you change your mentality and stop blaming your team you will never improve enough to climb. You are your own worst enemy right now.

I agree that this discussion has reached its end. Take my advice or leave it, its really up to you. You are in charge of your fate: not me, not anyone in this thread, and definitely not your horrible teammates who "feed" all the time. Good luck and keep an open mind.

Horse GrenadesFeb 2, 20163 votes

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I never made the assumption that bronze people deserve to be there. I came to the conclusion that YOU deserve to be there by analyzing your statistics and listening to you logic and arguments. Bronze is as much a mentality as it is your mechanics and decision making and you have a very bronze/silver mentality.

Why are you so resistant to people telling you that you aren't stuck in bronze? You're like a prisoner in a prison with no guards and no locks. You are free to leave the prison whenever you want as soon as you accept that you aren't a prisoner. This concept of elo hell is honestly all in your head. You should be happy about that. You should take solace in the fact that hundreds of thousands of people like you have climbed out of bronze. That's a huge support network of people who are TRYING TO HELP YOU. But instead realizing that people are trying to help you you instantly dismiss them because their opinion disagrees with yours. You're like an addict who shuns his family because his family refuses to support his use of drugs.

I was right where you were when I first started. Bitter. Always blaming my team. And then I took a hard, honest look at myself and realized my mechanics and my decision making were shit compared to high level players. It wasn't until I came to that conclusion and stopped blaming others for my problems that I started to climb. I hope you climb, I really do. However, until you change your mentality and stop blaming your team you will never improve enough to climb. You are your own worst enemy right now.

I agree that this discussion has reached its end. Take my advice or leave it, its really up to you. You are in charge of your fate: not me, not anyone in this thread, and definitely not your horrible teammates who "feed" all the time. Good luck and keep an open mind.

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ToxicOrRito Feb 3, 20162 votes

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I never made the assumption that bronze people deserve to be there. I came to the conclusion that YOU deserve to be there by analyzing your statistics and listening to you logic and arguments. Bronze is as much a mentality as it is your mechanics and decision making and you have a very bronze/silver mentality.

Why are you so resistant to people telling you that you aren't stuck in bronze? You're like a prisoner in a prison with no guards and no locks. You are free to leave the prison whenever you want as soon as you accept that you aren't a prisoner. This concept of elo hell is honestly all in your head. You should be happy about that. You should take solace in the fact that hundreds of thousands of people like you have climbed out of bronze. That's a huge support network of people who are TRYING TO HELP YOU. But instead realizing that people are trying to help you you instantly dismiss them because their opinion disagrees with yours. You're like an addict who shuns his family because his family refuses to support his use of drugs.

I was right where you were when I first started. Bitter. Always blaming my team. And then I took a hard, honest look at myself and realized my mechanics and my decision making were shit compared to high level players. It wasn't until I came to that conclusion and stopped blaming others for my problems that I started to climb. I hope you climb, I really do. However, until you change your mentality and stop blaming your team you will never improve enough to climb. You are your own worst enemy right now.

I agree that this discussion has reached its end. Take my advice or leave it, its really up to you. You are in charge of your fate: not me, not anyone in this thread, and definitely not your horrible teammates who "feed" all the time. Good luck and keep an open mind.

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ToxicOrRito Feb 2, 20162 votes

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http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=xReadyPlayerOnex

That game did not happen recently because its not in your match history so I don't know if you are delusional or lying. You had a game recently on Draven where you went 11/7/2 that was a NORMAL game where you only got 183 CS in 30 minutes. That's over 100 cs less than you claim. 300+ CS in a 25 minute game would mean that you were averaging 12 cs/min which is pretty much physically impossible. You'd have to be farming multiple lanes simultaneously to achieve a CS score that high.

And as far as your story of your team "constantly dying" in that game you were tied for most deaths on your team. If you want to prove me wrong post the actual match history so we can see who died when, what your builds were, and how your team lost.

REKT E K T

alasarcherJan 24, 20166 votes

What is happening to those people? They get placed in low divisions like Bronze and Silver.

Why is banning from ranked not a thing? Because everyone has right to play ranked , thats why we have divisions. Just because someone yells "i can only jungle", doesnt mean he is challenger level jungler, or that he will automatically do good in jungle, it just means he has most experience with playing jungle. You are complaining that you are in "mmr thats impossible to win", but u are forgetting one thing. Whatever MMR your teammates are, your opponents are aswell. So by default, you have 4 bad players and you play against 5 bad players. 4 bad players + you vs 5 bad players= Unless you are bad player aswell, you would be winning. See my point?

XinZhao2WinNhaoFeb 1, 20161 votes

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What is happening to those people? They get placed in low divisions like Bronze and Silver.

Why is banning from ranked not a thing? Because everyone has right to play ranked , thats why we have divisions. Just because someone yells "i can only jungle", doesnt mean he is challenger level jungler, or that he will automatically do good in jungle, it just means he has most experience with playing jungle. You are complaining that you are in "mmr thats impossible to win", but u are forgetting one thing. Whatever MMR your teammates are, your opponents are aswell. So by default, you have 4 bad players and you play against 5 bad players. 4 bad players + you vs 5 bad players= Unless you are bad player aswell, you would be winning. See my point?

I agree with your message.

But I disagree with your math.

Because they try to make the average MMR the same in both teams, so your teammates will be worse than your enemy teams if you are a good player.

For example, let's say you're in b1 with 3000 mmr (yes I know thats an exaggeration)

But your enemy teams are all 500 mmr.

So they will have a total of 2500 mmr or an average of 500 mmr.

In order for your team to have an average of 500 mmr.... Your teammates will each have to be -125 mmr.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 1, 20161 votes

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I agree with your message.

But I disagree with your math.

Because they try to make the average MMR the same in both teams, so your teammates will be worse than your enemy teams if you are a good player.

For example, let's say you're in b1 with 3000 mmr (yes I know thats an exaggeration)

But your enemy teams are all 500 mmr.

So they will have a total of 2500 mmr or an average of 500 mmr.

In order for your team to have an average of 500 mmr.... Your teammates will each have to be -125 mmr.

Where did you get these numbers.... why do they mean ANYTHING...

XinZhao2WinNhaoFeb 1, 20162 votes

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Where did you get these numbers.... why do they mean ANYTHING...

Riots system makes sure both teams have rather equal average MMRs.

So if you're a bronze player with diamond MMR at 2000 (I know a player in bronze with diamond mmr), your teammates MMRs will make up for that difference. So if it's you and 4 teammates against a team with 500 average MMR, then your team will also have 500 mmr average or close to that.

(2000 + 4x)/5 = 500 mmr.

That means that each of your teammates will average about 125 mmr. So your teammates will be worse than the enemies.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 1, 20161 votes

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Riots system makes sure both teams have rather equal average MMRs.

So if you're a bronze player with diamond MMR at 2000 (I know a player in bronze with diamond mmr), your teammates MMRs will make up for that difference. So if it's you and 4 teammates against a team with 500 average MMR, then your team will also have 500 mmr average or close to that.

(2000 + 4x)/5 = 500 mmr.

That means that each of your teammates will average about 125 mmr. So your teammates will be worse than the enemies.

Ok, and that being said... that sucks. My team mates will ALWAYS be worse than my opponents... and at bronze and silver mmr's that means a LOT whereas at gold+ where people have at least an even understanding of the game it doesn't as much. RIOT specifically says the tune the game to plat and above and that combined with how MMR works creates a hole that IS ELO hell. And nothings ever done. I don't see why it's fair to ignore the needs of 50% of their customer base.

I dk man, I kind of agree with you but I don't know if MMR actually works that way or not.

DedriusFeb 2, 20163 votes

Your friend with the diamond MMR is either Intent Feeding and losing on purpose or Dodging Every Promo. It is impossible to have a diamond MMR and be stuck in bronze, and if this was the case, he would be matched with Diamond Players because the matchmaking process is based on MMR not Elo.

Players are matched based on MMR not Elo, if you have a plat MMR but are in Silver, you will be matched with players that have a similar MMR to you (plat players).

XinZhao2WinNhaoFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Your friend with the diamond MMR is either Intent Feeding and losing on purpose or Dodging Every Promo. It is impossible to have a diamond MMR and be stuck in bronze, and if this was the case, he would be matched with Diamond Players because the matchmaking process is based on MMR not Elo.

Players are matched based on MMR not Elo, if you have a plat MMR but are in Silver, you will be matched with players that have a similar MMR to you (plat players).

Yeah but either way if your MMR is the highest in your game you could expect your teammates MMR to be lower than your enemies average by the law of averages.

DedriusFeb 2, 20162 votes

Not necessarily, if the average MMR in a game is 2000 (both teams), you could have a 2101 MMR, have 3 teammates with a 2100 MMR, and 1 teammate with a 1599 MMR so 4 of the players on your team are better than the enemies average.

Normally however if someone has a 2100 MMR and someone else is 2070, there is little to no difference in skill.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Not necessarily, if the average MMR in a game is 2000 (both teams), you could have a 2101 MMR, have 3 teammates with a 2100 MMR, and 1 teammate with a 1599 MMR so 4 of the players on your team are better than the enemies average.

Normally however if someone has a 2100 MMR and someone else is 2070, there is little to no difference in skill.

Ok for example though, that 1599 guy gets queue'd with the 2100's... do the annihilate that guy and he ends up feeding so hard there's nothing his team can do about it?

GamblerOfLivesFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Ok for example though, that 1599 guy gets queue'd with the 2100's... do the annihilate that guy and he ends up feeding so hard there's nothing his team can do about it?

this is an estimate of how the system works

bronze 5-100 mmr points bronze1-500 mmr points silver1- 1000 mmr points gold1-1500 mmr points plat1-2000 mmr points diamond1-2500 mmr points

roughly like this

in your example will mean a plat 5 vs a diamond 5:)..huge difference..but, the plat 5 guy must be duo with a diamond 3-4.so,it balances out.

Now, you have 100 mmr points..you do understand how bad you are? i am bad too, but atleast i know how bad i am.

Only jungle,i am challenger level jungle, star jungler, lcs material;)))

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 2, 20161 votes

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this is an estimate of how the system works

bronze 5-100 mmr points bronze1-500 mmr points silver1- 1000 mmr points gold1-1500 mmr points plat1-2000 mmr points diamond1-2500 mmr points

roughly like this

in your example will mean a plat 5 vs a diamond 5:)..huge difference..but, the plat 5 guy must be duo with a diamond 3-4.so,it balances out.

Now, you have 100 mmr points..you do understand how bad you are? i am bad too, but atleast i know how bad i am.

Only jungle,i am challenger level jungle, star jungler, lcs material;)))

I completely understand I'm not Diamond. That doesn't mean I "belong in bronze" as people put it. I consistently beat my laning opponents and carry games as hard as possible. Believe me or not. Only way to know is to play with me IMO. There's a difference between losing games because you're bad and your team being bad. I'm gathering statistics on how often I lose based on a real loss and a "team" loss and see if that correlates to how many I win based on those kinds of scenarios. At current, I think it's my team. I just went 14/6/23 and (5/0/3 out of laning) and almost lost because no matter how hard our jg tried our talon fed and we had to fight down a 7/0 Yasou. The main reason we were able to carry this absurdity was because our jg, sup and I were very good. We locked down the right people in team fights, popped ults when they were most effective and dodged their skill shots. But even still, this team came within half a nexus tower of beating us because this guy fed so bad.

It's just rude to say you're not lcs or challenger and you're stuck in bronze cause you're bad. Because it's just not true in many cases.

GamblerOfLivesFeb 3, 20161 votes

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I completely understand I'm not Diamond. That doesn't mean I "belong in bronze" as people put it. I consistently beat my laning opponents and carry games as hard as possible. Believe me or not. Only way to know is to play with me IMO. There's a difference between losing games because you're bad and your team being bad. I'm gathering statistics on how often I lose based on a real loss and a "team" loss and see if that correlates to how many I win based on those kinds of scenarios. At current, I think it's my team. I just went 14/6/23 and (5/0/3 out of laning) and almost lost because no matter how hard our jg tried our talon fed and we had to fight down a 7/0 Yasou. The main reason we were able to carry this absurdity was because our jg, sup and I were very good. We locked down the right people in team fights, popped ults when they were most effective and dodged their skill shots. But even still, this team came within half a nexus tower of beating us because this guy fed so bad.

It's just rude to say you're not lcs or challenger and you're stuck in bronze cause you're bad. Because it's just not true in many cases.

Let me tell you a secret..you can get diamond based on game knowledge;)..that simple..you being bronze 5 (the lowest division) means that your game knowledge is next to 0. 5 vs 5 fights, avoid this fights at all costs. you should look to take advantage of yourself being fed

When i was bronze i was so good that i was playing vs gold:)..surprising:)..you know how i did it? i was 1 trick pony(fiora main before rework). I would stomp my top laner, and after that, ask my botlane to go top and i go bot..as fiora you can easy 1 vs 2.easy games..i think i had 17 win streak in a row;)..bronze was easy, silver was easy, gold was easy, platinum easy if you don;t make huge mistakes.

The ideea is this. the higher you go, less mistakes you make.

Idk what you are talking about, but in bronze people don;t even know how to farm, let alone carry. You think you are better than your elo? what's stopping you to get higher? they are bronze, even if they are fed, they have no ideea how to carry games;)

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 3, 20161 votes

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Let me tell you a secret..you can get diamond based on game knowledge;)..that simple..you being bronze 5 (the lowest division) means that your game knowledge is next to 0. 5 vs 5 fights, avoid this fights at all costs. you should look to take advantage of yourself being fed

When i was bronze i was so good that i was playing vs gold:)..surprising:)..you know how i did it? i was 1 trick pony(fiora main before rework). I would stomp my top laner, and after that, ask my botlane to go top and i go bot..as fiora you can easy 1 vs 2.easy games..i think i had 17 win streak in a row;)..bronze was easy, silver was easy, gold was easy, platinum easy if you don;t make huge mistakes.

The ideea is this. the higher you go, less mistakes you make.

Idk what you are talking about, but in bronze people don;t even know how to farm, let alone carry. You think you are better than your elo? what's stopping you to get higher? they are bronze, even if they are fed, they have no ideea how to carry games;)

You are purely assuming my game knowledge is next to 0. You have no idea what you are talking about. And you admit as much.

PLAY A GAME WITH ME OR STFU. CHALLENGE IS 4/5 GAMES.

DedriusFeb 2, 20161 votes

If that guy is playing support or just plays passively or a combination of the two in lane then it really wouldn't allow him to get annihilated. If that person plays very poorly obviously he will get destroyed as will anyone that plays poorly regardless of the Elo, a situation like this is not realistic I was just giving an example where the MMR of all of the teammates were not lower than the enemy average.

if you averaged out the Elo's then the game MMR would probably be around 1800 with one person at 1600~ and his duo at 2000 in which case the person would not be annihilated unless he plays poorly.

XinZhao2WinNhaoFeb 2, 20162 votes

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Not necessarily, if the average MMR in a game is 2000 (both teams), you could have a 2101 MMR, have 3 teammates with a 2100 MMR, and 1 teammate with a 1599 MMR so 4 of the players on your team are better than the enemies average.

Normally however if someone has a 2100 MMR and someone else is 2070, there is little to no difference in skill.

Okay then the 1597 (not 1599) MMR guy feeds and reports the whole team and then AFKs at base and you're stuck in a 4v5.

But that's not the way it is in my games.

In my games I literally have 75 times some of my teammates MMR. I was 150 MMR and he literally had 2 mmr according to op.gg

DedriusFeb 2, 20161 votes

It is actually 1599 (2100+2100+2100+2101+1599=10000/5=2000)

Any usually if it is this skewed it is because the person with the low MMR (1599 in this case) is duo'd with one of the other members so the AFK issue is not very apparent in my opinion.

XinZhao2WinNhaoFeb 2, 20161 votes

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It is actually 1599 (2100+2100+2100+2101+1599=10000/5=2000)

Any usually if it is this skewed it is because the person with the low MMR (1599 in this case) is duo'd with one of the other members so the AFK issue is not very apparent in my opinion.

I know some duoQs that both go AFK if either one (or both) of them does bad.

But I hate playing with duos because of this. Now you have to let 1 player do all the work (the 3000 mmr guy) and while he's there doing all the fun things like fighting 1v5, you 3 have to babysit his duo partner to make sure he's not a free kill for the enemy team. Not fun.

So now you're playing a 3v5 rather than a 4v5.

DREADN0UGHTFeb 1, 20161 votes

3000 is like... Challenger mmr..

clleshJan 24, 20166 votes

Why is "banned from ranked" not a thing?

because based off of your post you would be banned from ranked, now does that sound fair?

PIMPSMOOTHJan 24, 20164 votes

Wait for the new champ select to return, and play with 4 friends who aren't trolls or ragers.

shyvJan 24, 20163 votes

challenge accepted. i can carry all kinds of garbage as long as i get mid or jungle.

ReadyxPlayerxOneJan 24, 20162 votes

Challenge Failed.

shyvFeb 1, 20163 votes

what are u talking about, we played 1 game together and i was trying to carry YOU..

we lost bc i had like 400 ping. otherwise i could have. but don't act like it's your team weighing you down i saw how shitty u did that game lol

alasarcherFeb 1, 20163 votes

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we lost bc i had like 400 ping

Never heard that one before.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 1, 20162 votes

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what are u talking about, we played 1 game together and i was trying to carry YOU..

we lost bc i had like 400 ping. otherwise i could have. but don't act like it's your team weighing you down i saw how shitty u did that game lol

You specifically wouldn't play ranked and said specifically I can't carry you. I don't know what more you want from me. You didn't succeed in the challenge.

shyvFeb 1, 20162 votes

i "wouldn't play ranked" because the fact that im gold means i literally cannot duo with people in bronze. also, even if i could, i wouldn't because i'm not going to carry you out of bronze. that's where you belong and you will stay there until you learn how to play the game.

and you said that it was out of 5 games, like, i said i can't carry you WITH 400 PING, and you said that it wasn't based off of 1 game. like. you said that. lol

if it helps you sleep at night blaming everything on your team instead of accepting that you're bad and need to learn how to play the game then go ahead. but good people don't get put in bronze 5 unable to climb out.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 1, 20162 votes

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i "wouldn't play ranked" because the fact that im gold means i literally cannot duo with people in bronze. also, even if i could, i wouldn't because i'm not going to carry you out of bronze. that's where you belong and you will stay there until you learn how to play the game.

and you said that it was out of 5 games, like, i said i can't carry you WITH 400 PING, and you said that it wasn't based off of 1 game. like. you said that. lol

if it helps you sleep at night blaming everything on your team instead of accepting that you're bad and need to learn how to play the game then go ahead. but good people don't get put in bronze 5 unable to climb out.

Failed is failed dude.

NommyPancakeJan 24, 20163 votes

Challenge: post your game RIGHT HERE and let me review it.

If you are really as good as you said, all of us won't find fault in your game

ReadyxPlayerxOneJan 24, 20161 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2077529623/217790387?tab=overview

Karma's kill was a snipe of mine. Only kills on our team were me. The 2 deaths in the middle were 1v5 cause my team was dead and I was trying to help save the game. The other two were 1v2 and 1v3. Once trying to help top not die under tower, once grabbing my red buff because bot was dead again.

Now please tear it apart and pretend I did bad lol.

For reference, this is how I normally trundle, and in this game graves was afk for the first 3 levels. My two deaths were after I smashed in inhibs and dicking around under double nexus towers getting 2 assists each time. So they don't count :)

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2077706932/217790387?tab=overview

EL HAMSTEROFeb 3, 20161 votes

everyone loses about 50% of their games. that is how matchmaking works.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 3, 20161 votes

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everyone loses about 50% of their games. that is how matchmaking works.

That's not entirely accurate. It's how RIOT balances MMR. It's not how it works or should work and I'm not forced to win/lose 50/50. Just look at teams in the top brackets that go 45/0. That's not "how it works". Skill plays a factor and I'm trying to determine how much of a factor with a very simple challenge.

EL HAMSTEROFeb 3, 20163 votes

the top 1% and the bottom 1% are the exceptions. there arent enough players above/below them to match them with so they will be the only groups that do not lose close to 50%.

do you know the difference between bronze 1 and gold 5? its about 18 wins.

your mmr jumps so much for each win it is very difficult to put together a winstreak. and if you do, you will be playing against players so high above your real skill level they will crush you and it will result in an answering losing streak.

best advice - if you intend to play this game find a way to be okay with only winning 50%. because you arent going to win much more than that.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=dyrus

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 3, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O2aMc79L,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2016-02-03T06:56:26.593+0000)

the top 1% and the bottom 1% are the exceptions. there arent enough players above/below them to match them with so they will be the only groups that do not lose close to 50%.

do you know the difference between bronze 1 and gold 5? its about 18 wins.

your mmr jumps so much for each win it is very difficult to put together a winstreak. and if you do, you will be playing against players so high above your real skill level they will crush you and it will result in an answering losing streak.

best advice - if you intend to play this game find a way to be okay with only winning 50%. because you arent going to win much more than that.

This actually helps. I've currently been in a hole where I won 11 games in a row, got into promos and had afks in them and then lost 5 games in a row. I don't think they were really outside my play level but they were certainly well above my teams play level. So oddly enough, it makes sense to win 2-3, lose one, then keep going... If I stack up wins it just makes that promo harder and could be the reason my win rate in promos is so low.

I'm fine with losing when I have a fair game. I'm fine with that. When there's no afks, no trolls, no one that goes 0/18... I'm fine with being defeated. But I can't say it's not very frustrating to lose ONLY because of those afks and trolls and feeders...

EL HAMSTEROFeb 4, 20161 votes

yeah knowing how it all works has helped me a lot to be okay with losing. knowing every time i lose i will get easier competition gives each loss a silver lining.

ReadyxPlayerxOneFeb 5, 20161 votes

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yeah knowing how it all works has helped me a lot to be okay with losing. knowing every time i lose i will get easier competition gives each loss a silver lining.

Still makes me think MMR is a bunch of made up bullshit designed to force people to play with complete shit team mates.

EL HAMSTEROFeb 5, 20161 votes

yeah there is some of that. if your mmr is high for your league they expect you to be able to carry bad teammates