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Epic ban systems, Riot

OnlyGragasOnlyGG··2 votes·616 views

Very epic ban system when it doesn't see the difference between...

...someone who runs it down mid giving totally free kills to the enemy.

...and someone who executes himself to tower in the start of the normal games for Tribute gold or simply to damage the tower for 30-500 based on the amount how many allies are helping. Then this player proceeds playing very aggressively on lane, not caring for KDA since he already has enough good KDAs in ranked and doesn't want to be that cautious in the game mode where experimenting is allowed. That's why he practises close combat, avoiding enemy skillshots and making last second escapes. He also picks random, often poor but fun champions for the support role, which only increase the chance to have worse than average KDAs. Riot or their autobot banners, however, were convinced this player is an intentional feeder as he has a habit of calling "opens" and "ff" which clearly confirms intentional match ruining even he never really gives up but keeps playing the game as anyone else.

Thank you for 14 day suspension and free -400 LP decay.

17 Comments

archerno12 votes

What about all those games with multiple item 3070 or multiple item 1018 on fiddle/tf with 20 deaths? Or 0:14 Jayce support with 3xitem 3056

15 deaths darius with 2xitem 3751

OnlyGragasOnlyGG2 votes

Changed builds during death timer when the enemy is hitting our nexus...

In most of the games I have over 1 KDA xddd, meaning for every death I've taken someone with me.

archerno11 votes

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Changed builds during death timer when the enemy is hitting our nexus...

In most of the games I have over 1 KDA xddd, meaning for every death I've taken someone with me.

Can u post link to a game they sent u which resulted in your punishment?

OnlyGragasOnlyGG1 votes

It's a 29 min Ryze game with 2/10/9 KDA. I can admit the game includes one part where I eat a couple of turret hits and then back off but get killed by someone who jumps from bush. That's the closest situation that could be held as "inting", but is just an attempt combining calculating turret tanking, BM and close escaping. Otherwise I perform nice plays rest of the match.

archerno11 votes

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It's a 29 min Ryze game with 2/10/9 KDA. I can admit the game includes one part where I eat a couple of turret hits and then back off but get killed by someone who jumps from bush. That's the closest situation that could be held as "inting", but is just an attempt combining calculating turret tanking, BM and close escaping. Otherwise I perform nice plays rest of the match.

Cant every intentional feeder use excuse "i just ran to turret 15 times to chunk it and narrowly escape, but somehow opponent was in bush and was killing me, i didnt do anything wrong"?

OnlyGragasOnlyGG1 votes

Correct, but it only happened once that game. Every player dies by making stupid choices or some might dc and walk under tower. So dying one time like that shouldn't matter at all. They gave me material in LoL support to believe that they don't even actually watch replays of the games, instead use an automaton bot banner that checks if the player fulfills certain conditions.

In my opinion common League of Legends players don't see a difference in normals and rankeds and therefore take normals too seriously. I have no same interests in normals as I have in ranked where I 100% tryhard. In normals I test my own limits to get better with small things such as those spotted here.

There's a lot to improve in the punishment system. First they should apply warnings so unnecessary bans could be easier avoided. Secondly the ban could have just prevent me from playing normals, since I have not done those horrible crimes in ranked but even so this penalty will take a lot of LP away from me.

archerno11 votes

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Correct, but it only happened once that game. Every player dies by making stupid choices or some might dc and walk under tower. So dying one time like that shouldn't matter at all. They gave me material in LoL support to believe that they don't even actually watch replays of the games, instead use an automaton bot banner that checks if the player fulfills certain conditions.

In my opinion common League of Legends players don't see a difference in normals and rankeds and therefore take normals too seriously. I have no same interests in normals as I have in ranked where I 100% tryhard. In normals I test my own limits to get better with small things such as those spotted here.

There's a lot to improve in the punishment system. First they should apply warnings so unnecessary bans could be easier avoided. Secondly the ban could have just prevent me from playing normals, since I have not done those horrible crimes in ranked but even so this penalty will take a lot of LP away from me.

There is no difference between ranked and normal. Anything u can do in normal, u can do in ranked. And anything u can do in ranked u can do in normal. Same rules apply, its your duty in both to do anything u can to contribute to your teams win.

OnlyGragasOnlyGG1 votes

Intentional feed is a wrong accusion anyway, I thought I would rather get a chat ban for using pings in an offensive way but haha, no I'm a elite normal game inter xd. Practising in normals got me this title. If playing to improve is wrong, then just picking not your best is too. This is the feeling I've got from this whole case.

In the future I very likely won't be seen in normal games as I'm not welcome there in the way I would like to play with others who are weak people afraid of going ranked if you want my honest opinion. I have seen much more raging in normals for small things than I see in ranked.

BlueThingamajig1 votes

Changed builds during death timer when the enemy is hitting our nexus...

This part of the story checks out. Of 3 games I checked, the "troll build" only happened in the last minute of the game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731206822?tab=builds&participant=4 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731291498?tab=builds&participant=6 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731265600?tab=builds&participant=2

I can admit the game includes one part where I eat a couple of turret hits and then back off but get killed by someone who jumps from bush.

I have reservations about this, though. It's an oddly specific excuse for a rather poor idea.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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This part of the story checks out. Of 3 games I checked, the "troll build" only happened in the last minute of the game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731206822?tab=builds&participant=4 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731291498?tab=builds&participant=6 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731265600?tab=builds&participant=2

I have reservations about this, though. It's an oddly specific excuse for a rather poor idea.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1731291498?tab=overview&participant=6&participant=6

I also see that he died on the enemy platform.

BlueThingamajig1 votes

Red team Ryze. That's the allied platform

deathgod51 votes

Actually executes are not counted, they check for build/deaths to enemy team/chat.

Did you happen to build tears only @ the end of the game and have you tried sending in a ticket with a recording of your "int" game while explaining why you find it unjustified. (youmuus did it.)

OnlyGragasOnlyGG1 votes

Client ban announcer showed that "You intentionally fed in these games" listing just one game, where I indeed have built troll items in the end and executed to towers. I have already brought up this case in LoL Support and they said that nothing will change the result as investigation have been fully completed. When I asked if they did watch replays they couldn't reveal that since their Privacy and Policy restrics them of telling "how they progress investigating accounts".

deathgod51 votes

Have to admit, that is pretty dumb, I hope it get's fixed.

Chermorg1 votes

It honestly sounds like you keep getting auto-responses from people. Ask for your account to be manually reviewed again, explain everything you remember doing in the past 2-4 weeks of games that may look like inting and why you believe it's not inting, and ask them to respond to your explanations.

OnlyGragasOnlyGG1 votes

There were some real human made answers too for my questions related outside of the ban but I was never ensured that my account had got a fair review.

General Esdeath 1 votes

That's what you get for not picking Grags xP

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