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Why do suspenses Seem so onesides, yet we don't get a chance to defend ourselves?

Ambient Snow··2 votes·671 views

So in 7 years of playing this game I finally got chat suspended. not really upset about it sorta because I know I was negative. But what upsets me more. is the fact that what you say and is used in this report is so taken out of context its just a one sided here is every thing you said report but doesn't show every thing else.

How is this a fair system if reports are based off one sidedness?

Game 1 PacoTferret: shrug un fortunately you are right in that aspect i've had to many trollers. ragers and feeders so i am tilted. PacoTferret: was bronze 1 monday then its just been a cesspool of teams PacoTferret: i suppose i just wanna get to silver i can care less.. PacoTferret: i duo qued with one guy and they flat out just trolled me 3 games PacoTferret: had a sion literally feed 20 kills.. cause he was mad.. his leona was banned by the Enemy team PacoTferret: wouldn't surprise me ive had that so many times lately its sickening PacoTferret: thats true PacoTferret: and now you see why i lose my matches PacoTferret: so why is it our rumble is top farming while irelia is owning the map PacoTferret: cait you need to learn map awareness.. PacoTferret: rumple you need to larn to actually participate in the game PacoTferret: just report shaco for afking.. PacoTferret: knew he waas a troll moment he said " i'm a diamond smurf" PacoTferret: open mid shaco is afk. PacoTferret: god this rumble sucks PacoTferret: its over just let htem have it.. PacoTferret: gg you guys nicely played and great team work PacoTferret: lux you were awesome sorry about this trolling shaco and rumble and cait PacoTferret: nope its over.. PacoTferret: the troll speaks Game 2 PacoTferret: none of their team countrs me.. just yasou is my only issue.. PacoTferret: umm.. wasn't going to pick any of those i go adc. PacoTferret: so again no idea what the fuck you're talking about PacoTferret: but you canc ontinue being a idiot and trying to be smart if you like PacoTferret: just putting lux on ignore.. save myself the mental anguish PacoTferret: fizz go bottom with lux pls PacoTferret: fizz stop! PacoTferret: i'm done afking PacoTferret: pls report fizz for int feeding PacoTferret: that is why you alwasy ban yasou.. cause garbage fizz's always feed him PacoTferret: shut up fizz bad game and int feeding are 2 diferent things PacoTferret: umm team was there fizz while you were at base typing PacoTferret: hush only reason you're doing great is cause fizz is named dennies.. and living to the name PacoTferret: he's 2 and 8 how much pressure do you think he can have PacoTferret: with ivern just take it PacoTferret: just wanting you all to end it.. waste of a promotion match PacoTferret: nope PacoTferret: umm sej is ap PacoTferret: morg is ap PacoTferret: The fuck you talking about? PacoTferret: we have a 3-15 fizz? Game 3 PacoTferret: surrender at 20 PacoTferret: horrible jungle afking support troll PacoTferret: yup we lost this.. just going to stay bottom you trolls can do what ever you want. PacoTferret: open mid.. PacoTferret: get out of my lane PacoTferret: pls report kass for trolling PacoTferret: when i stopped causing cause i had a trolling afking karma.. and a jungle who doesn't know the position who is afk now PacoTferret: wait so you ask a question PacoTferret: i answer PacoTferret: then you tell me to be quit PacoTferret: why ask the question then? PacoTferret: tell me about it. i had 4 members running around that one triangle of the jungle trying to get the one teemo PacoTferret: cause i get afing suppports and jungles who don't knwo their position? PacoTferret: oh look jax is afk again PacoTferret: yea you can jax refuses to group unless he gets akill out of it PacoTferret: thanks for afking karma and lettign them catch up PacoTferret: be nice if this karma actually supported instead of afking and trying to get kils all the time PacoTferret: omg.. GET THE DRAGON PacoTferret: you guys still easily got this what are you raging about PacoTferret: oh look our jax is bottom lane.. again.. PacoTferret: jax don't ever jungle again PacoTferret: why you weren't mid last time PacoTferret: you blame me and jax was bottom first PacoTferret: i simply followed him

21 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo8 votes

but you are responsible for what you do and say regardless of what others do

elduris7 votes

Exactly, it doesn't matter what anyone else says. Only what you say. Just because someone else did something bad doesn't excuse you doing something bad.

Ambient Snow2 votes

naw I agree with both of you not denying what I did was negative just not fully accepting that These reports come back horribly one sided. its like here is every thing negative that was said..

for me I guess I enjoyed the tribunal more when you got to see the entire Conversation and were judged on that.

not based on a one sided conversation that an horribly be taken out of context.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

its not taken out of context .. when you are reported they see the entire context it just dont show you the entire chat log from every one in game...

Ambient Snow2 votes

Yea but if that's the case I don't see how you judge some one for being guilty for getting ups et when 2 of those reports had people afking and turning the match into a 4v5.

Its like hey i'm going to punch really hard in the face. but you're not allowed to get mad. or leave you have to sit there and take it.. and then watch as I enjoy my self while you get to sit there in pain and do nothing?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

who says riot didnt see what the other player did was wrong ?

you dont know... all you know is that riot punished you and you deserve it..

and arguing here on the boards over it isnt gonna help you if you truly feel you are wrongly banned submit a support ticket and ask for a review if it if a mistake was made ( but 99.9% sure it wasnt ) then your banned would be over turned . and its very very rare that you go from no punishments prior to a perma ban... so you must have been punished before and refuse to change

Ambient Snow1 votes

apparently we don't know how to read..

1.. I even said it was a chat ban.. which means 10 games no chat.

no idea where you get perma banned. obvious again you didn't read the points just got on to say GUILTY which is the reason why the tribunal kinda failed no one reads we just assume guilt and move on

I SAID in the first line " not really upset about it sorta because I know I was negative"

So like.. umm.. yea.

fumiefan1 votes

It does.

If someone tried to rob me in the middle of the night and I knocked him out, the police would not arrest me.

Meanwhile, in Riot Land, if someone came to rob me and I knocked him out, I'd be the one arrested. Even if there was a way to see exactly what happened, the RLPD - Riot Land Police Department - would not actually look at the recording, they'd just go off of what was said.

There's a reason all good judicial systems have trials and try to get both sides of the story. And that's because only hearing one side doesn't accurately show what all went on.

I know for a fact that that everyone in this thread would want to tell the police their side of a story in an incident in real life, but yet everyone is saying they'd rather take their chances off of one side of the story.

Xidphel4 votes

This is about defending yourself from abusive chats. Not about robbery. Not even close to each other.

fumiefan1 votes

Same thing here. I don't see why Riot wouldn't apply the same logic in real life.

I can tell you it's real when I lose an account with money on it. That's very real.

Xidphel3 votes

You weren't robbed, you gave them your money to access perks. That doesn't exempt you from rules.

If you were banned, it's because you broke the rules you agreed to abide to. Your fault.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

You are comparing:

  • physical violence to verbal threats
  • a government institution to a private business

A better example would be if another client began screaming at you in a movie theatre.

  • If you began screaming back at them, you'd both be thrown out.
  • If you ignored them, only they would be thrown out.
fumiefan1 votes

Same thing. Riot would apply this logic to real life as well.

In real life I can leave a bad situation. In League, Riot punishes you if you leave.

And let's take a look further into these examples:

If you began screaming back at them, you'd both be thrown out.

Don't see Riot doing this.

If you ignored them, only they would be thrown out.

I report and ignore all the time and still, no Riot punishment.

Xidphel1 votes

You don't get a notification from every person you report. Only those who were banned after your report.

For example, if you were to report someone, he goes on to play with me, I report him for his toxicity and he gets banned, I get the notification.

Essentially, you don't know if they get punished but with enough reports, they will.

Kei1432 votes

it's fair cos it's not a court system where they review 1 game only and compare who needs to be punished in that game.

The system reviews all your games you were toxic in, and when you pass a certain amount of validly reported games ratio, you'll get punished.

Colgate Gator2 votes

Jesus christ you seem like an asinine person to play with.

As the others have stated, you are responsible of your own actions in the game (hell, that's how our society works, so if you can't grasp that here, you have bigger issues).

Ambient Snow1 votes

  1. pls don't post if you're not going to read the original post, I already said I understand my actions and took responsibility. omg, I even admit I was negative.

  2. just like I tell the others. if you're not going to read the original post, don't comment and just save yourself the embarrassment

Ambient Snow1 votes

So explanations for the reports in each game

Game 1

This was a Super frustrating Game. As you can see IT starts off with the Shaco. -.- yup Shaco was flat out trolling us.. Starts the Game off saying he's a diamond smurf and was actually doing decent till he just flat out AFK no reason at all just flat out afked

The Rumble just never played with the team.. several times others had commented on why irelia Was up and down this map and Rumble just stayed top farming, Several times we pinged and asked for him to join but he never did so we all got frustrated with rumble. and yes It was upsetting and we called him out

cait was my adc. Cait was decent but Cait lacked map awareness she would always to long in lane and feed kills. at one point she had a double kill then she stayed in lane with 1 bar of hp (roughly 20-30 hp) and died then all game she just would constantly over stay and die. even if she made a good play she would stay in lane and just hand over buffs or if in a team fight she would just walk away. between the Shaco afking for no reason on and off in the game and rumble just not helping the team or when he does team fights chases. after one champion we all lost our tempers. except shaco cause he was afk

I understand I was negative but seriously this game was frustrating.

Game 2.

Fiz just fed yasou. that was upsetting cause a lane should not go 7-0 in 8 minutes.. But what pushed me over the edge was When the Fizz chased yasou, morg and Lucian across the bottom lane under 2 towers just to finally get one kill on Lucian and morg. (which reset his gold) then hand over a double buff to yasou.. giving him 8-0 with double buffs (sorry this is enormously frustrating especially when you tell him to stop chasing and he just continues on)

The Lux on my team was my support but just built full AP never even built one support item or even put down a ward maybe 2 that was it. then she just starts raging cause we called her out on the fact she never put down a ward at all she raged back think end game they were caught out of positions

game was pretty much a steam roll after that. and it was just frustrating jax started raging at me cause it got to a point where yasou since he was so horribly over fed by fizz was literally one hitting our team.

Jax starts raging all game calling every one out getting us all upset so every one was just upset at that game.. was really irritating listening to jax call every one trash and what not constantly.

Game 3.

Was a night mare game. First off our jungle was a guy who complained about auto fill in champ select I offered to trade with him but he said no and decided to jungle.

1st off.. he loses Red buff then he goes and loses blue buff Then since he lost both buffs decides to just afk cause he's upset. that he got completely blown out of his own jungle by the 5 min mark He then afks for 5 minutes comes out to die then goes back afked again he did this several times in the match and it was infuriating.. Karma. Just flat out also afked for 5 minutes stating 5 minutes later oh I had to get the door

At this point when she afked it was 3v5 and was just over. then in the last minutes of the game I was pushing to get minions off th tower then I look at the bottom half of the map and I see all 4 of them chasing a teemo through the jungle running around a try bush.. when suddenly they get blown up by the enemy team and then rage at me cause I wasn't there chasing teemo as well?

The you weren't mid last time comment " basically end game when jax wasn't afk" he demanded we all group mid.. as soon as all of us went mid jax just ran to the bottom lane and we got shoved and lost a tower and inhib jax then rageded and we rezed end game Jax asked for us to group again I said my comment Then sure enough Jax runs bottom lane again and I follow him.. when I got there jax teleported back cause it was 5 on our inner towers and I just stayed bottom pushing then I got them all raging at me cause I wasn't there to defend 1v5?

JustA kleo1 votes

"defend ourselves"

oh yea its the internet, i need to "defend" myself from kiddies who i will never ever see again calling me "gay"

... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Last avatarname1 votes

For as far as I heard riot games consider toxicity like something that is never allowed no matter what context. It is kinda like trowing all participants of a bar fight out your bar regardless of who started it.

In the first game, I would have muted you and left it at that because you are talking a lot without really discussing strategy, making you distracting without advantages. But the other games are genuinely bad, they would get banned even if the old tribunal system was still a thing.

If I had one piece of advice just do what I do what I am tilted. Mute them all, stop talking and report them. You just gave them the pleasure of being banned and you get nothing. If you think they are trolling, report them for trolling. If you think they are flaming, report them for flaming. If you think they are trash talking, report them for trash talking.

Ambient Snow1 votes

not really my comment for this was more based off the report form that riot gives you that states " we find your behavior un sportsman like and ruining the game for others"

I find this ironic because my behavior was influenced by people who were already being in sportsman like and ruining the game for me.

now granted like you said I should have put them on ignore and afked.. game 2 I was dealing with lux raging at me cause I asked why she banned Vieger over Yasou. and she raged at me saying I should have posted I wanted vieger before the ban.. which was annoying for 10 minutes cause I was adc and had no idea why she was getting mad at me for asking why she banned veiger over yasou.

as for fizz yea he just fed 0-8 in the first 10 minutes of the match that was a night mare then raged at every one and starts calling every one out saying they are feeding the already super fed yasou. -.- seriously?

but you are right I should have put them on ignore and moved on and not got twisted the way I did

Game 3.

was just a steam roll, Jax lost red, to yi, then does wolves and has yi steal his blue and gets first blood killing jax. Jax got mad and afked. for 10 minutes.. during this time karma afks so now its 3v5. Then Kass came bottom and let the enemy Get 2 free towers.. while he stayed bottom none the less it was just a very upsetting game and was a promotion match so I got upset

my fault I suppose shouldn't have gotten upset the way I did. you are right again I should have stayed quiet and just reported for afkers after the match.

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