Flamed all match because I went to try a platinum rank singed's guide

Ranmaru·Feb 19, 2018·1 votes·534 views

So I was looking at singed guides and i found one that looked like a good idea, So what you were supposed to do was build ryliali so that you could escape and you were supposed to die multible times so that your worth of gold goes down essentially making you not worth gold (SIMILAR TO YOSMUUS DARK SEAL TRYNDAMERE) And I was doing well I was doing what the guide told me to do get the attention of them and just have them go into your poison trail how is this fair to get flamed for trying a guide whilst they were doing just as bad as me maybe even worse

22 Comments

Jo0oFeb 19, 20187 votes

Different strategies are realistic in different ELOs. That guide might be appropriate in platinum, but in Bronze, it's basically just intentional feeding. Manipulating gold values in order to effectively split push might work if your team is conscious of your strategy and is playing effectively around it, but if they're attempting to 4v5 team fight and have to deal with a fed top laner due to your voluntary deaths, you're going to lose and likely get flamed for it.

You died eighteen times in a 31 minute game, and your strategy resulted in zero towers taken, low CS, and an extremely fed enemy Yasuo who clearly made the rest of your team's lives a living hell for that half hour. I wouldn't be surprised if you get action taken against your account for intentional feeding that game.

RanmaruFeb 19, 20181 votes

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Different strategies are realistic in different ELOs. That guide might be appropriate in platinum, but in Bronze, it's basically just intentional feeding. Manipulating gold values in order to effectively split push might work if your team is conscious of your strategy and is playing effectively around it, but if they're attempting to 4v5 team fight and have to deal with a fed top laner due to your voluntary deaths, you're going to lose and likely get flamed for it.

You died eighteen times in a 31 minute game, and your strategy resulted in zero towers taken, low CS, and an extremely fed enemy Yasuo who clearly made the rest of your team's lives a living hell for that half hour. I wouldn't be surprised if you get action taken against your account for intentional feeding that game.

im noit making it a 4v5 i was making it 4v2

Jo0oFeb 19, 20183 votes

Dude, when you're dead for 80% of a match, you're not making anything. And there's never a good reason to feed the hell out of a carry champ like Yasuo.

There's no justification for flaming anybody, so I'm certainly not trying to say that you deserved getting flamed over this, but what you did was dangerously close to intentional feeding, and likely indistinguishable from the perspective of your teammates. I can see from your match history that you died several times under the enemy turret, not just behind the turret like you were proxying. This set up the enemy Yasuo to continually kill you under your own turret, and likely just ruin your team's day throughout the entire game.

sleepysithlordFeb 19, 20184 votes

It was a normals game with all bronzies lol. The kid is trying out first time proxy singed give him a break. Its not like he did this in ranked

Jo0oFeb 19, 20182 votes

I'm not hating. Dude's match looks like intentional feeding, which is why his team was flaming him. Doesn't make the flaming justified, but he's gotta know not to expect different results without a drastic shift in strategy and execution.

sleepysithlordFeb 20, 20181 votes

Didn't think you were hating! Just was saying I think its harsh to say he was inting is all. If this were his 100th game of singed or a ranked game it'd be a different story imo.

KaiokoFeb 19, 20183 votes

If you're dying multiple times purposefully that will be construed as intentionally feeding. It doesn't matter if it's your strategy or not, purposefully dying is much different than trying to proxy farm and dying a couple times from that.

zPOOPzFeb 19, 20183 votes

Did the guide not tell you that x number of minions reset your gold bounty after the patch more than a year ago? Also you're not suppose to die on purpose. The point is to draw attention, not to die multiple times. Dying is just an unfortunate consequence of proxy-ing, not the goal.

Jo0oFeb 19, 20181 votes

Hey, I see that bit of information posted every so often, but I can never find any official/documented source for cs resetting gold bounty. I don't suppose you know where I could read up on it?

I've been googling around just now, but the best source I can find seems to be people echoing it on forums.

zPOOPzFeb 19, 20181 votes

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Jo0oFeb 19, 20181 votes

My google-fu continues to be too weak to find the truth, but I'll try =\

zPOOPzFeb 19, 20181 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kill

Champions with negative tiers have their tier increased by 1 for each Gold 1000 earned by killing minions / monsters or by earning an assist.

It's part of a patch long ago to (I believe) specifically targeted the proxy singed strategy

Jo0oFeb 19, 20181 votes

Jeez, I read up and down that specific page multiple times and kept missing it.

Thanks! Sorry for making you search around for me.

zPOOPzFeb 19, 20181 votes

I had a little advantage because I have an idea of what I'm looking for

[sg-syndra]

usul1202Feb 19, 20182 votes

FWIW, gold resets on kills, assists, or sufficient farm, so suiciding to better proxy is no longer a viable strategy.

Also, the original strat is to proxy and kit care if they kill you, not to suicide.

Kei143Feb 19, 20182 votes

Proxy Singed is a fine strat if you know what you are doing.

You need to kill the minions behind the enemy tower, and let your minions kill the enemy tower. Yes it's OK to get pressure and die for it but you need to keep them busy as long as possible. It's a useless strategy if your enemy top can just tank the minions and wave clear them without your minions crashing into their tower. Even more useless if you can't CS properly.

People will flame you, cos it is an off-meta strategy that they aren't used to and don't know how to play around it.

If you are going to play this strategy, I suggestion you look up some YouTube videos on how to move around the map and dodge things as proxy Singed. After that, be prepared to be flamed for it.

SadKillFeb 19, 20181 votes

/mute all

Magically no more verbal flaming.

rework trundleFeb 19, 20181 votes

Do not try or question anything a Singed one trick does. He knows what he's doing and why he's doing it.

y0r1ckFeb 19, 20181 votes

Tough to argue with this

Coopa123Feb 19, 20181 votes

Int feeding a few kills and pointing at a random guide as some kind of excuse lol

Telephone BoothFeb 20, 20181 votes

Dude you're gonna get flamed at times when you're not even trying an unordinary strategy. It just happens. And that's not even feeding to the level that you fed. Of course you got flamed!

The point of dying a lot isn't just to give them kills and lower your value. It's to get shit done as you're dying. You can't just die. You gotta do something that builds towards a victory with your deaths. Make them chase you all over for a minute so their jungler and laner(s) waste time, while your jungler gets ahead. There's a whole big strategy around that build, and it isn't gonna work with random low ELO strangers.

EschetonFeb 20, 20181 votes

You seem to have gotten a proxy Singed guide from 5 seasons ago. Dying to turrets to lower your gold value doesn't work any more. Gold value doesn't go down so much, and resets off assists and farm now also.