For a company full of adults you hide problem like children. I get punished for defending myself meanwhile people who are hyper toxic or know they are ruining matches by doing stuff that is report-able are continuously playing still. That isn't and should never be considered fair.
hyperion31829 votesAutomated answer doesnt mean erroneous answer. So show what you wrote and what you received. Full unedited screenshots of your message. https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034195474-Understanding-Temporary-Bans https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038430973-Understanding-Permanent-Bans
Here on the Boards, you may provide your full unedited last reform card AND the full history of punishment of your account. But I suggest you read the rules of LoL before complaining more or pasting anything.
"Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match."
"Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on."
Samus Aran butt1 votesI told them that I get flamed and have people be toxic to me and they go on free as can be. But I defend myself and Riot bans me on a second offense. I don't get chat restriction I don't get a warning or time out. The only thing I know of that is permanent ban is to tell someone to off them-self. And from the chat logs I was given I never once told anyone to do that.
Julevi4 votes[{quoted}](name=Samus Aran butt,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KIH8GrE8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T08:16:33.543+0000)
The only thing I know of that is permanent ban is to tell someone to off them-self.
Usually a player has to face these punishments ....
10 Games CR 25 Games CR 14 day ban permanent ban
It is possible to skip certain punishments due to extreme behaviour. So you could get a timed ban for your first offence.
- 10 Games CR: normal punishment for breaking the rules, a slap on the wrist
- 25 Games CR: second punishment, needs a 10 Games CR first!
- 14 day ban: third punishment or_ first_ punishment for: inting, trolling, griefing, hate-speech, encouraging others to commit suicide
- permanent ban: last punishment or_ first_ punishment for: account-sharing, cheating
So, there are several ways to earn a permanent ban.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesJust a couple quick things I want to add to your comment (which is in no way wrong, as far as I know!) that you missed or I wanted to add to:
The AFK system runs entirely differently, with increasing levels of Low Priority Queue (LPQ - A mandatory delay between queuing and the queue actually starting, which is reset upon interrupt) as follows:
I have no actual idea what's past 20 minute LPQ, because I've just never heard of anyone going past it. I assume it either continues escalating indefinitely until you're effectively permabanned (Any time after an hour or so would just be so absurdly long you could very well never manage to get through LPQ) or until you're actually permabanned.
I also believe Riot will issue indefinite bans for chargebacks, which can certainly be permanent.
Also, you can technically get a 25 game chat restrict without actually ever seeing a 10 game chat restrict. You'd need to get a 14 day ban first, then decay two punishment tiers. But, generally speaking, nobody's going to see a 25 game restrict without first having a 10 game restrict.
NF Remilia1 votesBack in season 1 and 2 leaving games repeatly , it gave you up to 3 days ban. I know that cuz of my internet at the time. xD i have no idea how is it now tho.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesYeah, the IFS and Leavebuster systems are vastly different from whatever the hell it was that existed back then.
hyperion31821 votes[{quoted}](name=NF Remilia,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KIH8GrE8,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T14:44:49.962+0000)
Back in season 1 and 2 leaving games repeatly , it gave you up to 3 days ban. I know that cuz of my internet at the time. xD i have no idea how is it now tho.
Until Season 4, it was 1, 3, even 7 days ban. They switched to 5 10 20min LPQ because if you had a 1/3/7 days ban, you would go on a smurf. With 20 min, you have some pain but not the necessary desire to log out and go on a smurf for a few minutes.
AJStarhiker1 votesJust a couple quick things I want to add to your comment (which is in no way wrong, as far as I know!) that you missed or I wanted to add to:
The AFK system runs entirely differently, with increasing levels of Low Priority Queue (LPQ - A mandatory delay between queuing and the queue actually starting, which is reset upon interrupt) as follows:
- Warning
- 5min LPQ
- 10min LPQ
- 20min LPQ
I have no actual idea what's past 20 minute LPQ, because I've just never heard of anyone going past it. I assume it either continues escalating indefinitely until you're effectively permabanned (Any time after an hour or so would just be so absurdly long you could very well never manage to get through LPQ) or until you're actually permabanned.
I also believe Riot will issue indefinite bans for chargebacks, which can certainly be permanent.
Also, you can technically get a 25 game chat restrict without actually ever seeing a 10 game chat restrict. You'd need to get a 14 day ban first, then decay two punishment tiers. But, generally speaking, nobody's going to see a 25 game restrict without first having a 10 game restrict.
20 min is the highest wait time. I believe a leaver-related perma would only be issued if a manual review determined it so excessive as to to be necessary.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesWell that makes sense.
zPOOPz5 votesThe only thing I know of that is permanent ban is to tell someone to off them-self
Well no, telling people to off themselves only earns you 14-day ban on the first offense. 2nd offense is permanent ban. That is not the only thing that gets you escalated to 14-day on the first offense though. There are also hate speech, homophobic slurs, racism, sexism, etc.
And from the chat logs I was given I never once told anyone to do that.
Will you provide screenshots of these chat logs?
GatekeeperTDS3 votesYou didn't get the answer you want. That doesn't mean the answer you got was wrong. Move on and behave better.
Silent Gravity2 votesSpecifically because you mentioned "tickets" as in, plural, there are two fairly likely possibilities:
You are making multiple tickets on the same issue without waiting long enough to receive a response. Creating additional tickets puts you at the back of the queue. Riot support will close the duplicate tickets while leaving the original one Open. This is normal.
You are making multiple tickets on the same issue after Riot already gave you a response. Theoretically, you didn't like the response, or you wouldn't be making additional tickets. Support has the duty of giving an explanation for your punishment. They don't have the duty of convincing you that their policies are correct.
GatekeeperTDS3 votes3.) If he continues to submit multiple tickets regarding the same issue, and acting outraged at support for closing them, they'll ban him from being able to submit support tickets.
Silent Gravity1 votesAnother thread just reminded me of the possibility.
Yin Yang Taoist1 votesRiot doesn't allow you to defend yourself by retaliating back. Its their policy. I know what you mean though! But according to them, you can defend yourself like this in RL. But in Riot's games, you follow Riot's policies. Take it or leave it!
There's a way to get around this though. If you /mute all, you can't see anyone type or ping whatsoever. So that may help!
Kei1431 votesI hope you don't mean you counter flamed back as a means of defending yourself, you still are flaming others.
It is possible for playerA to get punished and playerB not to, even though playerB was waaayyyyy more toxic . Let's say playerA started the game with the toxicity meter at 95% and playerB's at 35%. Ingame, playerB said some pretty nasty shit and playerA responds with some minor shit. After the game, playerA gains 10% toxicity and playerB gains 50%. Now playerA is at 105% toxicity and gets punished, whereas playerB is at 85%, and not punished in that specific game, even though playerB was found to be 5x more toxic than playerA in that game.
But if you did skip chat restrictions, then you probably used some pretty bad words.
hyperion31821 votesWe are still waiting for the screenshots and history of your account and you have been warned way before the reform card(s). Yes, you have been warned when you created the account because you read and agreed with Terms of Use. You may say "I didnt read them, nobody does", but thats not an excuse. If you got a 14d ban without chat restrictions, its totally possible as explained above.
"The only thing I know of that is permanent ban is to tell someone to off them-self. ": absolutely not. Some people reach permabans without being horribly vulgar or wishing horrible things to sisters. They are simply repeatedly negative and follow the protocol 10cr, 25cr, 14d, perma. If you just got a 14d ban today, you are on thin ice now. A simple reported "stfu" for example in 15 days could trigger a permaban. But dont come back saying you were not warned or didnt know. You have 14 days to finally read the rules of a game nobody forces you to play.