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Reported for playing Amumu support

Kotex··80 votes·7,146 views

Even though i carried my ADC, kept him with vision and death foddered for him so he could live get kills and farm and didn't KS him and helped secure the game. My reward was being argued with for half the game of why im an idiot, a noob, and why i don't know what im doing--and of course reported even though i supported more or less just as optimally as i would with a popular support. I wasn't trolling, or derping around just because it was in a normal, i was playing a serious support game, just with a different support, but that didn't matter because it was "off meta?"

What is with people that can't see the forest for the trees, and think there's never any wiggle room for the meta if its not already been defined as the meta? Someone had to play Trundle support, and Naut support, and Shen support for the first time. Theres a difference in someone picking something off meta to troll and be a derp fun haver, and someone playing because they're confident they can bring their talents out in a different way than the default. I remember a long while ago around the time i started playing, a diamond support main i befriended told me something: Supporting is a role, not a champion.

To all supports that have to support ungrateful people that don't deserve your thoughtfulness, or work, I thank you for biting the bullet and doing what needs to be done, even if some people make it taste so bitter <3

EDIT: Didn't think this was going to get this much attention... o.o

141 Comments

Trylobyte32 votes

The problem is people treating 'The Meta' as if it were the Holy Bible of League. Never mind that the meta is by its nature fluid and differs from region to region even on the same patch. What's pick/ban OP here might not be so in Korea or EU or China (and often isn't) because their meta is different. But failure to follow the meta is still punishable by death because people hate having to think.

Awkward Couch16 votes

But but but, they didn't play it in the LCS so it's bad! /s

blueberrypancake7 votes

Amumu support was in the LCS tho

Edward I think played it at least once in season 4

(possibly in other occasions too)

Just watched the match and they won

Awkward Couch7 votes

But it wasn't played by Aphromoo or Adrian, so it's not good! /s

Velzard of Koz4 votes

With this philosophy LoL will be full of trollpicks like Morgana in SUPP instead of MID... Oh wait...

Revlak Javik7 votes

"There is no Meta, there is only synergy. There is no Tiers, there are only counterpicks."

~Excerpt from the Legends' Code

Duke Anax1 votes

And Champion Mastery counters everything.

Everyones9 votes

Yeah man. You go girl.

crippler388 votes

few years ago (only recently got back into league) I was draven with a galio support, I was skeptical but the glorious bastard netted us a double kill as soon as he got his ultimate (because you don't screw with draven's damage early on) and since then I have never doubted a support pick ever again.

Randomonium14 votes

I had a support LeBlanc a few games back. I thought it was unusual but I had that mentality of "he must know what he's doing." In the loading screen I pulled up lolskill.net and saw the guy has a 27% win rate with LeBlanc. That was my first sign that something was off.

Game starts off and the LeBlanc gets caught in multiple Morgana bindings at level 1 and loses over half his HP. Instead of using his pots to heal up he decides to all in them when he hits level 2 and gives up first blood. I typically follow my support when they engage like a good ADC but since she died near instantaneously it wound up with me in a 2v1 which I lost.

LeBlanc gets back to lane before I do and immediately all ins them again in a 1v2 situation and gives up a 3rd kill. I do my best to farm under tower but get 4 man dove with the jungler and mid laner roaming down (though I did get a kill.) So now the enemy ADC is 4/0 about 5 minutes into the game.

LeBlanc begins raging and purposely tries to steal my CS or at the very least mess me up so I miss them. She also multiple time engages on the Fed bot lane and when I move to assist she distorts away leaving me in a 1v2, spamming laugh as they kill me. This behavior continues the whole game with LeBlanc purposely leaving our team as soon as team fights start, spamming laugh, and then trying to assassinate the low health enemies once they have killed the rest of us.

Moral of the story, doubt can be a good thing at times.

DarkRitual7 votes

Somebody went mid/fll and got salty for having to support.

Kotex1 votes

{quoted}

Somebody went mid/fll and got salty for having to support.

What? No. I chose to support. I feel like im one of the few people in the whole game that actually want to support more often than not. Now and then i want to play something not of the "defined" current meta, but im never doing so to troll and i pick something that CAN work as it it were meta. Amumu works well as a support and its enjoyable to use as such.

I was genuinely playing Rammus top for example before it became a meta pick these last week or so and i used to get sh__t for that too, but not anymore cuz "LCS played it! Thats means its ok now!" or maybe it was always ok.

SH Azykan5 votes

Dark was replying to someone else, not to the OP

Anrui2 votes

Support LeBlanc can actually work well though. She was just a bad player sadly. I've seen many support LeBlanc work with success.

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Then you have never had a support Shaco or Malz.

crippler382 votes

support shaco is my favorite support to be, so GET OWNED NERD

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Oh don't worry, I did get owned the last time I had a support Shaco.

crippler382 votes

depends on the team comp really, if you have a frontline shaco's really good at keeping enemies from aggressing just by being there, his boxes basically are a free kill if anyone walks in them in a team fight and he can easily bring down mages to half hp whenever he wants for basically free if he's going AP, that and early game he has decent poke and it's hard to aggress on him because boxes. You kinda have to play around it though.

plus since he's still shaco he can take dragon with the jungler easily and a lot of the time people won't notice, especially if you're randomly teleporting in lane and just not doing anything or randomly teleport and shiv people. He also can pack ignite and exhaust to basically say 'you die' to an adc early on, pretty good kill lane. He works especially well with jinx in my experience because of jinx's flame chompers and zap having good synergy with shaco same with the death rocket. This synergy being she has no escape, shaco makes escapes for her, they both have traps that naturally are good to combo together, he has a perma slow to help peel for her if she gets aggressed on early (not going to do much later on early game it's amazingly helpful) and help him keep them in range, her zap and his shiv both can chunk people (slow helps land zap's damage) and to top it all off, shaco's clone is really easy to help set up a super mega death rocket because it also proc's shaco's perma slow and doesn't care about going under tower.

Anraton6 votes

I remember the trouble i had with Shen and Nunu support .. before it got meta ...

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Same. I remember when I went Shen support because I thought the taunt and heal were really good, I always tried to use the tactic to take Kruggs/Gromp and get an early lead and then I'd just heal up with my Q and FotM. Unfortunately, my ADC's rarely complied because they thought I was a troll, and even if we did good in lane for the first part, my ADC would self-tilt because I wasn't in-meta and we'd lose and he'd say something like "Idc we lost anyway Shen support like wtf?"

Suddenly its played in the LCS, and I can play Shen support whenever I friggin' want and people always comply. The LCS is honestly the problem. If it weren't for it, meta wouldn't be as big of a thing. There would be the best tips and we might still have the top-jungle-mid-adc-support thing, but you'd be able to go Ahri ADC or Shaco support without insta-losing the game because your teammates think you're trolling.

Anraton3 votes

It is lot about lCS ... LCS just prooves, you were right and shen WAS able to be played support.

The problem is the narrow minded playerbase which doesn't think out of the box

(sorry if i hit the wrong translation, I'm not native english)

Kei1435 votes

oh you can get reported for anything, whether it counts as a true report is a different matter.

In these circumstances, if you were even a bit negative, their reports against you become valid.

Photos of Ghosts5 votes

Why do you care? You're doing the right thing.

  1. training people's brains to intellect and elasticity
  2. getting potential flamers to flame and as such be punished
  3. making offmeta picks more known and as a result expanding the depth of this game.
XerShade3 votes

You can't be reported for playing an off-meta pick, nor can you be for having a bad game. As long as you were not toxic in anyway if these "reports" your given lead to a punishment you can most likely appeal them to player support.

Also, just mute the pricks next time, helps A LOT.

Kotex1 votes

{quoted}

You can't be reported for playing an off-meta pick, nor can you be for having a bad game. As long as you were not toxic in anyway if these "reports" your given lead to a punishment you can most likely appeal them to player support.

Also, just mute the pricks next time, helps A LOT.

I'm not bothered by being reported, or having some angry guy saying mean things about me. It's just his only reason for doing so was because "Amumu support isn't what everyone is playing, stupid! I know more than you because i stick to the meta!" as to why he was being a dick to me. All the teamwork i put in for him as his support--that was working for him mind you--didn't matter to him at all just because it was amumu support doing it.

XerShade2 votes

Sadly people are entitled to opinions, even bad ones. If the weren't Donald Trump would be in prison a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG time ago.

Jonxx3 votes

I see lots of them crying cuz of permbans lately tho [slayer-jinx-catface]

SociopathFriend3 votes

I ran Malzahar support alongside a Miss Fortune ADC (I'm trying to get lvl 5 mastery- I take him literally anywhere at the moment) and that was actually super good once we hit 6. "Alright you have ult?" 'Yeah' "Sweet" Proceed to suppress the enemy and let MF hit them with her entire ult.

Cosnirak3 votes

You got reported. You didn't get punished because you didn't do anything wrong. Welcome to League?

agbudar3 votes

its the thought that matters and in this case, he helped secure the game with his unorthodox play.

yet they bit the hand that fed them.

lolptwo3 votes

I have no problem with people playing Amumu support. I just hope you guys who upvoted this don't mind when you lock in Amumu Support, I lock in Nunu ADC.

Same terms, i'll legit try to make something that is proven to be sub optimal work.

You wouldn't be able to argue on terms of being hypocritical and we'll enjoy a solid Nunu Amumu bot lane.

Because if someone is having fun experimenting with Off Meta in ranked, I have no problem experimenting stuff that I want to try too, also I'm not wasting my Vayne KDA or win rate on the off chance someone makes something that's proven to be worse, better.

However of course, 90% of the people who upvoted this, would throw a raging fit if someone picked Nunu ADC. It's the same logic though.

That being said, if it's in Normals then you should be able to play whatever you want. That is the point of normals isn't it.

Kotex3 votes

{quoted}

I have no problem with people playing Amumu support. I just hope you guys who upvoted this don't mind when you lock in Amumu Support, I lock in Nunu ADC.

Same terms, i'll legit try to make something that is proven to be sub optimal work.

You wouldn't be able to argue on terms of being hypocritical and we'll enjoy a solid Nunu Amumu bot lane.

Because if someone is having fun experimenting with Off Meta in ranked, I have no problem experimenting stuff that I want to try too, also I'm not wasting my Vayne KDA or win rate on the off chance someone makes something that's proven to be worse, better.

However of course, 90% of the people who upvoted this, would throw a raging fit if someone picked Nunu ADC. It's the same logic though.

That being said, if it's in Normals then you should be able to play whatever you want. That is the point of normals isn't it.

Well like i mentioned theres a difference in picking something more out of place than another. There would be a difference in an off meta Nunu ADC, and an off meta say.... Jayce ADC, or Kennen ADC... Naut and Amumu are both great junglers, and like Naut, Amumu can also fit into a support tank role, or a solo top tank role because that is the type of champion he is and the role he can fill as such. That might be "off meta" but it fits within the standards of the role--he has a fitting correlation with being a supportive tank that can work effectively well as any other. Kinda like how Blitzcrank and Vi are originally top lane bruisers, but the meta developed to favor them AS support and jungle BUT that doesn't stop them from still fitting into their originally designed role because that is the type of champion they are.

Nunu on the other hand has no remote correlation that fits into an ADC role whatsoever, so thats a rather erroneous example to use. I mean you can say it can work, but not to the point youre trying to make...

Normals arent just for derping around. Some people really use it as an environment to learn and flex their knowledge and mechanics of the game in a serious way because as i mentioned SOMEONE had to first try Shen and trundle, and brand as supports in a serious way first for them to become accepted into the meta as serious components of that role, ya know? :o

lolptwo1 votes

I agree with what you're saying however. The premise of taking something off meta is just that.

ADC's are seen as ranged attack carries, however it could easily be a Melee champ.

Everything is open to interpretation

It Hertz When IP10 votes

Ya, but the melee champs that might be considered for the role bring something to the table that evens the playing field against the marksmen. Morde has that XP gimmick and a self-charging shield to counter poke, Yasuo has Windwall and his Q for range.... can't think of other candidates. Nunu brings nothing to the table for bot lane damage though. His minion execute is nice but not a reliable CS source, his AS buff doesn't last long enough for duels, and all of his scalings are for AP. Almost any other melee champ would do better.

Amumu, on the other hand, has always been a possible support choice, with a skillset somewhat similar to Thresh (skillshot stun+pull, AoE CC, sadly no lantern analogue). Hell, he brings more traditional support qualities of peel and CC to the table than Brand.

It's like a baseball player going up to bat says "hey, I'm using a bat made from an unconventional type of wood, because I like the swing better", and your reaction is "WELL I'M USING A LIVE TROUT MOTHERFUCKER".

kaltenashes3 votes

It's like a baseball player going up to bat says "hey, I'm using a bat made from an unconventional type of wood, because I like the swing better", and your reaction is "WELL I'M USING A LIVE TROUT MOTHERFUCKER".

LOL

Dairdrek2 votes

I played a duo lane with my friend once. He was blitz and I was kassadin. We all inned at levels 2,3, and 6 for three double kills. Was a good day

lolptwo2 votes

I had a duo play yi, lee sin bot lane once in a ranked game with me.

They went 0-14 in 16 mins.

It was not a good day.

EpikFeeder3 votes

Basically, if these kids didnt see it in the LCS, or on some stream, it is "trolling". I know, that seems retarded, but this is how it works in the lower ELO's.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

Wait reported for playing something weaker in normals? I thought the entire point of normals was to play stuff that wasn't meta bc you don't want to be at a disadvantage in ranked, but want to play something fun that isn't in the strongest spot right now? OMG WHAT ARE NORMALS ACTUALLY FOR?!?!?!?!

kaltenashes1 votes

i dont mind off meta unconventional picks, normals are the only mode i play...

i do some off meta like Orianna Ziggs Sion support (i tried Xerath but it didnt go that good, i ended with a pretty score but enemy vayne got fed so...) but my Veigar support was really great, i landed some good stuns, enemy team had to surrender

what i dont like is people playing really bad in normals and saying "it just normals i can be a dumbass if i want to"

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

Yeah, trolling is trolling regardless of the mode, but especially with the different MMR you can do well with some really really stupid stuff if your normals MMR is lower than your ranked MMR.

Where do you fall on someone doing poorly and taking accountability for it? I will generally own up and say sorry for playing poorly if I get wrecked bc I'm not used to something (trying to learn in normals before taking it to ranked), and I find most people are chill but some freak out about don't play it if you're not good at it then rargh blah blah blah. Like how do you balance learning, playing anything other than the best choice, and generally having fun, vs making your teammates work harder to carry and possibly messing up their game/enjoyment by being a weak link.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

Xerath support is amazing. But only if your ADC knows how to right click. You stay far back, poke with Q and AA a minion (don't last-hit it though) and go back to where you were. Then you get your E and keep doing this until you can all in with a stun. The tricky part is having your ADC right click them because several times they'll have "ADC vision" and only see the minions.

RitoInvoker1 votes

Karthus' lay waste cooldown is actually 2 to 2.3 seconds... when it should be 1 second or less [with cdr]

Karthus lay waste AoE range is too large and definitely larger than it was previously

Karthus' lay waste range is not as high as it should be/used to be

Karthus' lay waste activation delay is longer then it used to be.. feels like .7 to .8 seconds instead of .5 or .4 seconds

Wall of pains % reduction is weak as fk until they have an insane amount of magic resistance .. Old Flat amount was way better... they said this was a buff when it was a stealth nerf

Defiles cooldown is way longer then it should be which effects his last hitting power and mana efficiency

Requiems cooldown sucks and it's easy to counter and it's channel time is too f**king long

~Main of Karthus and have been challenger b4 on other accounts

Edit: Defiles AP ratio is garbage.. make it 30% at least ffs

Early on defile consumes a huge chunk of mana which can make getting an early game kill hard sometimes.. It's Range, Damage isn't even that fking powerful for how much mana it chunks early game and late game

Conclusion: fix the bugs, buff karthus

Also STOP Stealth nerfing things.. FFS

Axis the Dragon4 votes

... wrong thread? xD

kaltenashes1 votes

i love when morgan freeman shows up and explain everything

Axis the Dragon2 votes

People without FEK might not get it bruv

Only Play Darius1 votes

Well would you report someone for playing Yasuo ADC (if you have an ADC in another lane) ? Probably, and the boards would be on your side

He could say it makes sense because he builds ADC items, can wall the enemy ADC, and has someone to cover him during his weak early game. Does that make you any more willing to put up with such a pick that you have been forced to lane with?

It works both ways.

50000000000000003 votes

tbh I think Yasuo ADC could work well enough, and wouldn't report. It'd be a little annoying to play with him since he plays very differently from conventional ADC, but as long as I have some experience playing with Yasuo (and who doesn't), I'll catch on soon. Besides, Yasuo bot would be something like a Teemo top in that they are counterpicks. Assassins are good against carries, and Yasuo does that well at the cost of not doing what other ADCs do (take tower safely).

And since in your scenario there is already an ADC in another lane, taking towers wouldn't be a problem.

A little bit of theorycrafting says supports like Alistar (good all-in, knockup, and some sustain) and Janna (AD steroid for Yasuo's Statikk/Triforce rush, knockup, good peel) would work exceptionally, and plenty of other supports who have good all-in potential or someone who can protect him until his first back. It can work, and if it works in theory, I'm down to seeing it in practice before judging them for picking off meta.

Br4ndon1 votes

If you're referencing your most recent Amumu game i wouldn't say 0/14/16 with a 40% kill participation is exactly a carry...

I would say you were probably reported for dying so much and not for support Amumu.

Kotex2 votes

{quoted}

If you're referencing your most recent Amumu game i wouldn't say 0/14/16 with a 40% kill participation is exactly a carry...

I would say you were probably reported for dying so much and not for support Amumu.

I admitted in a previous post that my performance took a turn for the worse when i started to indulge his bad attitude. Until that point we WERE doing fine. I know i could have just muted him and maintained my calm and focus but... it was just... ugh.... >.<

I know it ended up looking bad, which is fine it happens, and im not trying to say im a professional, but it didn't start out that way, and probably wouldn't have if my own ADC wasn't fighting me solely because i was playing a non current meta support that is still viable, got him double kills, saved his life, created space for him to farm, and everything i would have done on leona, or naut, or annie, etc.

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