RIOT PLS ADD AN EARLY SURRENDER

MadV1kNg·Apr 26, 2016·5 votes·666 views

I just played a match where 3 of my team mates disconnected before the game even started. Me and the remaining player where then forced to sit there for 15 minutes and wait for the enemy team to let the minions push.

The enemy team did not want to just push and let us out of the game because they were having fun "bullying us". That is exactly what they said when we asked them to just push mid. Your current surrender system is promoting toxic behavior similar to the match I was just in.

Your competing mobas (Smite, DOTA 2) both have systems where you can leave the game after 5 minutes of an ally being DCed. Why do you let your players go through matches like this where we know we are going to lose and yet we have to continue to pretend we are playing for up to 20 minutes because if we do not we will get punishments for being afk.

Please riot just give us a system that allows us to surrender sooner in the case of an afk or other game ruining occurences.

10 Comments

daemanicApr 26, 20161 votes

welcome to riot they dont care they got what they wanted over the past years now its time to f the people who have been here since season 1 its a joke

AtanchanApr 26, 20164 votes

Boy, the PBE sure makes your face red.

Void NargacugaApr 26, 20161 votes

Yeah, though it sucks when you don't even know about it and try to ask a legitimate question:

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What are you talking about? As far as I know there is no such thing as a "Remake" vote.

Seriously I had no clue about and made that above comment, then a little bit later I recently found out what was being talked about.

Awkward CouchApr 26, 20161 votes

Strings referencing an upcoming Early Surrender / Remake vote option have been added in today's PBE update. Riot Socrates tweeted out to confirm this featured is in development but will not be released in 6.9: "Just to confirm, we are working on an early surrender to better deal with games that start with an AFK, but it won't be in patch 6.9." RiotNeuroCat added: "Hi guys - I'm on the team developing '/Remake' (this feature). Just want to clarify that this will not be shipped with 6.9, but we want to get it into your hands ASAP :D"

Typing the comment "/remake" in chat will trigger the vote but things don't appear to be fully hooked up yet. From the strings, seems like teams will be able to vote to remake the game if a player never connects to the game after champion select and no players are killed in-game.

Here are the two larger text strings: game_announcement_OnSurrenderEarlyAllowed "Your team has X seconds to remake the game because a player dc'd and no kills occurred. Vote to end the game by typing /remake in chat.
Only the dc'd player will take a loss. This vote can only occur once."

game_announcement_OnSurrenderEarlyAccomplice "To protect high-tier competitive integrity, your remake would count as a loss because the dc'd player is in your premade"

There are also a few others in there just saying vote failed.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/04/425-pbe-update.html##surrender

Void NargacugaApr 26, 20161 votes

I think its a neat idea honestly. And it even has a thing for if your in a premade with them. BUT its only at the start of the game. Though I must admit it sounds really good! I just hope nothing bad happens with it.

Awkward CouchApr 26, 20161 votes

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I think its a neat idea honestly. And it even has a thing for if your in a premade with them. BUT its only at the start of the game. Though I must admit it sounds really good! I just hope nothing bad happens with it.

Yeah, the whole, "before any kills" thing is what worries me. I can easily see someone running down mid lane and dying once to draw out the full game. It also doesn't fix the "pizza just got here sorry team" 14 minutes into the game problem that happens every once in a while. But at least it's a start.

There's an appreciation thread about this on the front page, but half the comments are just talking about how Dota has had this for years now. People are never happy.

Void NargacugaApr 26, 20161 votes

Yeah that kinda worries me as well with the whole before any kills. Would suck being the lone bot laner who doesn't have a support or vice versa. Though honestly here: If I was the enemy laner I'd TRY to give them a chance I guess? What I mean is I wouldn't try to out right kill them. Then again... Teammates might get pissed. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

You can't please everyone right? And if you do try to do that: No one is happy. Weird right?

Kinda like all the threads that tell RIOT to stop changing the game (balancing it or at least trying to do their best). If they do they still wouldn't be happy since now its stagnant and unchanging.

AthinaApr 26, 20161 votes

It sounds like testing is going to start soon for a remake feature on the PBE, which allows you to early surrender if a player never connected and no kills have occurred yet in game (only the DC and his premade will take the loss). Remember, the PBE is a place to test new things, and not everything makes it to live servers, though if it go through we can probably expect it in 6.10 or 6.11.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/04/425-pbe-update.html##surrender

SarutobiApr 26, 20161 votes

Im pretty sure the early surrender is suppose to combat games where someone doesnt connect right off the bat. Not trolls who are out to ruin the game from the start. I would assume as well that another player has to kill another player in order for it to register. It would be stupid to just have one kill because if the enemy sees this, one of them could just run up to the turret and have that count.