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I received a death threat from a post I made here in Player Behavior

LeafieGreens2··81 votes·21,760 views

So a couple days ago I posted about an encounter I had during ranked where my team had a Nunu ADC who was purposely inting and said he wanted to get demoted to Iron IV. (https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ZjZAMeBV-inting-player-nunu-adc-said-he-wants-to-get-demoted-to-iron-iv)

Today when I logged into League of Legends I had a friend request from someone. I didn't recognize the summoner name, so I looked him up on op.gg. I saw he was Gold IV (I am Silver IV right now). So then I thought oh cool maybe he's from the forums and added me and wants to group or help me out in my climbing through ranked. So I added him.

About 30 minutes later I am playing a ranked game and he starts to send me direct messages while I'm in a game. First he starts sending me my own sentences from that forum post here. So I was like "uh, yeah, that's my post." And then he starts asking me me why do I play league if I am stuck in silver. I was like "hey man I just play for fun. I like to play and I am trying to get better..."

Then he starts spamming that I am wasting my time if I am in Silver IV and I shouldn't be playing at all. I was like "haha you're funny", trying to play it cool, but I was getting a weird vibe.

And then it got dark.

He started saying that he can track my ip and that I am going to meet him very soon. He said that I don't deserve to live and insinuated that he is going to kill me.

All because of my forum post here about someone inting.

Meanwhile I am trying to play ADC Jinx in a ranked game and not be rattled by this guy, who I can't block now because I'm in a game. Ahh!

And then he ended the conversation by telling me that he has 22 accounts and if I try to report him for threatening to kill me then he will create 6 more accounts to harass me. He said something like "cut one head off and 6 more will grow back". I was like "haha you're fun".

Ugh.

I made sure to grab some screen shots of the crazy stuff he was saying and after the match (I still managed to win!) submitted it in a ticket. Riot still hasn't responded.

I know the forum rules and will not say the screen name of the person. And I also know that he might see this post.

Basically, long story short -- now I know not to add random people who send me friend requests. [slayer-jinx-wink]

To be honest I am still freaked out and hope Riot takes action soon.

172 Comments

Upgrades36 votes

You're fine, unless he has access to Riot's direct servers, he cant track your ip. You have nothing to worry about, just some troll trying to fuck with ya. Thats some xbox shit right there lol

Thingamajig19 votes

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You're fine, unless he has access to Riot's direct servers, he cant track your ip. You have nothing to worry about, just some troll trying to fuck with ya. Thats some xbox shit right there lol

even if he is able to track his ip so what? it's not like the IP address contains any information about the person empty threats by a kid that thinks just because he is gold he is somehow better than someone who is silver

Upgrades2 votes

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even if he is able to track his ip so what? it's not like the IP address contains any information about the person empty threats by a kid that thinks just because he is gold he is somehow better than someone who is silver

Yea you're probably right. It wont even matter really, although I heard some law enforcement tools can track a location where an ip address is. My sister's highschool had a bomb threat and they tracked the ip of the account who made the post and were able to locate it. Not quite sure, but I agree.

Serika Zero8 votes

Let's make it simple for you to understand. There are no more static ip addresses available for the public. to make it more simple. The normal ip addresses look like: Xxx. Yyy. Zzz. Hhh Out of which only yy. Zzz. Hhh can vary.

So at most you could have 99.999.999 devices using the internet on this planet. and that's why static ips are no longer a thing. Instead the isp is given an ip address and the isp will dinamically allocate space in their network in a sinilar way with how you give ip addresses and internet access when you create a Hotspot on your mobile phone.

So, having the ip address will only shows you the ISP of the user. And at most, the city where the use lives (depends how the isp has their ips alocated).

Now the isps have logs of who had the xxxxxxx ip and at what time frame. Meaning that, for the police to identify someone by the ip adress they need to talk with the isp company and obtain data about who had access to that address at that time.

And even then you only get the contractor name.

Soo, the best way to make threats is to go at like a Mc donnals or random pub and use their wifi for it. isps have logs on who used the internet. and I expect uni dorms, airports and big hotels to have that too. While not so much for a random bar or motel. But they can still narrow it down to who used it and was in the motel at that time.

Still as you can see. tracking some based solely on their ip requires you to either have a collaboration with one or more institutions or hack the isp database itself (at very least).

The Anivia OTP2 votes

not exact.

Xxx. Yyy. Zzz. Hhh Out of which only yy. Zzz. Hhh can vary.

no, it's 32 bits so basically (0-255).(0-255).(0-255).(0-255) The addressing range varies a lot more than that And the use of subnet will change a lot of the configuration (there are less than 3 billion possibles adresses without subnetworks which is not enough, and actually the reason why ipv6 was created)

Also, you are always connected indirectly to league of legends so , it's not even useful tot do that

and apart from that, the this he should be scared about is doxxing, more than anything else.

TrulyBland3 votes

I mean, it contains some information about your location. Precise enough information to find you? No. Enough information to know which city you live in? Probably. Which city you vaguely live close to? Very likely. Country? Almost definitely.

Just think of localized ads á la "hot singles near you". That's basically the level of precision and accuracy you can expect.

Jacadi21 votes

I guess if he is that pissed off to send you a death threat , it means that ur report worked and he certainly got a ban :o

Midg3t2 votes

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I guess if he is that pissed off to send you a death threat , it means that ur report worked and he certainly got a ban :o

He's talking about a guy from this forum, not about a guy he complained about.

Eternal Torment9 votes

they are probably the same guy. Not even the most biased friend will be dumb enough to actually send someone death threats for another's stupidity. I sincerely believe that humanity hasn't reached that kinda stupid yet.

IainG103 votes

To quote Einstein: 'Only 2 things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe...'

ModDaenrysTargaryen17 votes

Send in a support ticket, they will be able to help you as best as possible

Edit. did not see that you already have done that. they will get back to you within 1-2 days most likely

Pepega Xerath1 votes

Hello, I need you help please. I am trying to submit a formal apology but my comment is taken down. I am sorry for causing harm I was being dumb and stupid. I want to apologize to the community and to the person I hurt. I am sorry.

ModDaenrysTargaryen3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pepega Xerath,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FIqJTvdp,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-06T18:22:24.461+0000)

Hello, I need you help please. I am trying to submit a formal apology but my comment is taken down. I am sorry for causing harm I was being dumb and stupid. I want to apologize to the community and to the person I hurt. I am sorry.

I do not know what you are asking of me?

Du Ma Mi5 votes

Write the apology for him damn it. The man wants to apologize!

jng dif victim17 votes

since a grown up never does this stuff i guess hes just a kid. so if even he could find u and knock ur door. just open the door and beat his ass. lol

Tuition Fee7 votes

A group of grown ass men were screaming at me for being a "plat smurf" and how my team deserved punishment for our dishonesty, and eventually started swearing and talking shit about us.

This is after they lost to a low elo high school team in a video game in a casual tournament.

ZaFishbone4 votes

[{quoted}](name=jng dif victim,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FIqJTvdp,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-06T08:38:54.162+0000)

since a grown up never does this stuff

PHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, oh my god, how naive can you be?

ChaosReyn2 votes

I wouldn't say its impossible for it to not be true...just highly improbable.

But if he could track your IP and do all that...wouldn't he have just...idk, showed up?

LeafieGreens210 votes

So when I logged into the game today I had 5 friend requests. Including from some of the people here supposedly trying to "apologize".

I deleted them all. I'm not going to open myself up to that kind of harassment in a goddamn video game I play for fun.

I appreciate all the comments and am glad for the opinions that the messages were just empty threats from an angry kid.

Scríptíng Xerath3 votes

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Ph03n1xb1rd2 votes

Why don't you just write it on the forum tho? :D

Pepega Xerath2 votes

I have several times but its being ignored. :(

PositiveMental413 votes

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The Anivia OTP85 votes

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Poor baby are you going to be ok? Oh the trauma you went through omg I feel so sorry for you.

Like it or not , what you just said , is horrible He is a human being and have the right to not be threatened, be understood, and not mocked

mocking him is the proof that you possess an abysmally low social intelligence, please consider social context next time

Power Mac28 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FIqJTvdp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T08:21:07.574+0000)

Like it or not , what you just said , is horrible He is a human being and have the right to not be threatened, be understood, and not mocked

mocking him is the proof that you possess an abysmally low social intelligence, please consider social context next time

Besides, some people seem to have a hard time understanding that threatening someone is a crime: the net isn't a no man's land.

BobaFlautist26 votes

Not just a crime, a federal crime. Always funny to imagine the type of cowards that make these threats trying to explain why they thought it was funny to an FBI agent without a sense of humor.

captaincomando12 votes

Yeah right.They should be in prison till they die coz they made death treat on the internet...I love this community hahah so fucking funny

Julevi6 votes

Nobody took it so far as saying they should be in prison till they die, stop exaggerating the comments here.

Besides that I would advise you not belittling such topics just because they happened on the internet. After all it's true that legal consequences could happen with cases like that.

Luther King Jr V2 votes

to be fair i never heard that someone went to prison out of being doxxed for a death threat if there were cases like that i'd like to hear about them

you have to consider that what someone sent you might be from the other side of the planet so your legal complaints might not even be realistic

captaincomando13 votes

Not with cases like this.It is obviously some angry kid yelling at other kid...U need to recognize what stays behind peoples behavior or how realistic threat is... Who would track anyone to kill because he lost 1 game on internet...people loose all the time and insult each other,and sometimes death wishes or death treats are involved ,but no one is going to go through so much trouble to find internet stranger and to do something to him because of 1 game...

Second ,there are legal consequences when the treat is real.This is just ridiculous on so many levels.

WAZZZUP5004 votes

Dude, death threats are a federal offense. It doesn't matter how angry the other person is, if hey make threats and the person being threatened feels threatened enough to report it, the aggressor should, in all cases, have legal action taken against them. It seems like you're trying to say that OP is lying; first off, idk what reason the would have to lie about this, and secondly, you should probably ask for evidence instead of jumping straight to conclusions

Realize that the threat itself is a crime, not just the action.

captaincomando12 votes

oh god help you...If that is the case half of internet users would be in prison. you have no idea what you talking about.'

There is a difference between SERIOUS treat and a fucking treat in internet game to total stranger.So many uneducated people around here

The Anivia OTP2 votes

NO there is no difference, As much as you can't 'kill someone for fun' A threat IS a crime, because the other person is not supposed to know if you're joking

the whether it is perceived as a joke will only change the fact that the threatened person will take legal action or not.

captaincomando13 votes

if you say so.If people get internet treat serious and start legal action every time they get death treat over a game on the internet,and cops take action based on that,prisons would be full . Is it ok to treat someone life even as a joke on the internet,no it is not. But does that mean that someone will take action every time that happen,nope.

People in real life sometimes use "I will kill you" in anger,or as a joke.Do you really think it is necessary to take action every time someone say those words.Are you sure that is how world function??? Treat need to be real in order for anyone to take action...

The Anivia OTP2 votes

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if you say so.If people get internet treat serious and start legal action every time they get death treat over a game on the internet,and cops take action based on that,prisons would be full .

Prisons are full in most countries tbh, and most of the time, you're just gonna get paid a few bucks plus a little extra

Is it ok to treat someone life even as a joke on the internet,no it is not. But does that mean that someone will take action every time that happen,nope.

Yes, but just like when you're stealing something , legally you are wrong , but as long as the victim don't take any legal action , you're safe

People in real life sometimes use "I will kill you" in anger,or as a joke.Do you really think it is necessary to take action every time someone say those words.Are you sure that is how world function??? Treat need to be real in order for anyone to take action...

yes, that's called natural selection. such people should not be in society as they are a threat. to society

this way, people are either going to contribute to society to repair their stupidity or contribute to society by not threatening other people

captaincomando13 votes

" Prisons are full in most countries tbh, and most of the time, you're just gonna get paid a few bucks plus"

That is not the subject here.Are you intentionally confusing subjects because you have no arguments or ???

"yes, that's called natural selection. such people should not be in society as they are a threat. to society

this way, people are either going to contribute to society to repair their stupidity or contribute to society by not threatening other people"

what are you talking about...Everyone sometimes do something stupid under emotions.Even you...So there is no need to act like you are above any other human being... You act superior like you newer made anything stupid ever...That is just to arrogant .You need to improve your attitude in order to contribute society...

The Anivia OTP2 votes

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" Prisons are full in most countries tbh, and most of the time, you're just gonna get paid a few bucks plus"

That is not the subject here.Are you intentionally confusing subjects because you have no arguments or ???

You brought in the fact that prison would be full, i corrected you by explaining that they are ALREADY full AND most of the time if you are threatening someone , you get fined, not sent in jail. so bringing the jail argument is invalid You just didn't catch the argument , but i agree it was unclear

what are you talking about...Everyone sometimes do something stupid under emotions.Even you...So there is no need to act like you are above any other human being... You act superior like you newer made anything stupid ever...That is just to arrogant .You need to improve your attitude in order to contribute society...

I agree that we do things stupid under emotion , that's why there is something called SELF CONTROL if you don't plan on having any, you're not suited for society Anger is no excuse for making other potentially have ptsd

Arrogance is perfectly suited for society, because even if it makes you feel bad That's your personal reaction to my behavior that comes from YOU if you're annoyed by someone arrogant the problem is from YOU As i'm not doing any harm to you , nor am i affecting you at all and threatening anyone, the only thing that makes you feel bad is the fact that you don't like feeling like you're inferior But what if YOU WERE inferior ? what does justify that feeling ? Nothing ! Of course, if you follow no standard in your life , you're going to be annoyed once you realise how much you left yourself live without thinking about your surroundings yet still think i could in no point be superior.

I do think that i am smarter than most people, not because it's just like that , but because i spent my damn life learning instead of being interested in what do other think about me, because learning why people judge others is 100x better than trying to not be judged at all.

you're playing a game you're not even understanding , yet you expect things from this game it's like trying to kill the nexus min 1.... you will test many things , loose your time, make stupide decision , all because you are too lazy to learn.

Same for social intelligence, you don't even understand the purpose of language, it's advantage, what you can expect from other humans, how they will react, and you use it in a way that may harm others.

YES we make stupid decisions, however, the range of the stupid decisions you can make can be greatly altered by simply THINKING BEFORE ACTING if you can't think when you're angry, then learn to go to sleep when you're angry

DOGS KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE, If you Can't control yourself better than a dog can

I also know that due to identity protective cognition you will simply ignore all i said , stand your ground because YOU CAN'T be a bad person right ? you can't have been wrong all this time ? i must be the one being wrong learning and trying to make the world a better place for everyone equally and safely, by making others realise that they are not alone, think deeply about their arguments before thinking, being able to change their opinions.

and even if i know that alone i won't be able to do it, i hope that identity protective cognition will push them OUT of the forum , so only people using their brain properly , avoiding fallacies, backing up their argument with example if needed AND agree to be wrong sometimes will stay (so we can actually have a good and constructive discussion).

be one smart human or https://media2.giphy.com/media/A6PcmRqkyMOBy/giphy.gif

and i'm sorry , but most of us haven't threatened anyone, if you are able to do it , well learn to contain your anger if you can't, we have medication for that And if you don't want anything in the end, just go away from society if you're planning on doing harm. if you threaten players in the game , you shall be expelled from that game. As much as if you don't want to kil yourself, don't jump off a plane without any parachute.

The Anivia OTP6 votes

but i think it's even worse that they forget that , behind these word, are real human , having emotion , that just want to have a little fun , have a little more dopamine and share some love and fun with others. We tend to forget that, to my sad regret

laws are nothing compared to a human, and i don't think we need laws to understand that a human life is inestimable.

Pepega Xerath3 votes

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Noodle Wacker5 votes

You seriously threatened a player over a post?

ShadowParker3 votes

Saying sorry doesn’t make it alright.

Better say goodbye to that account kid.

captaincomando12 votes

You sure it is ok to be jerk towards someone who say" I am sorry?" Did he made mistake,yes he did.Does that mean you need to be jerk now when he apologize ,nope it does not.He will be punished for what he did ,but still show some understanding.Everyone makes mistake,even you

ShadowParker2 votes

Dude threatened OP and his family over a fucking board’s post.

How could you even take OP’s side in this?!??

captaincomando12 votes

How could you even take OP’s side in this?!??

Lol .Easy. Maybe because he apologize like 10 times.Maybe because people love to judge others,and to find excuses for them self. maybe because people can be fake

ShadowParker2 votes

If the guy had just harassed OP by calling him names or whatever, sure, people make mistakes and he’s sorry.

But this guy, after seeing OP’s post on the boards, WENT OUT OF HIS WAY to add this random guy and then THREATENED TO KILL HIS WHOLE FAMILY. He even tried to scare OP by saying he can trace his IP and what not. This guy doesn’t know OP in ANY way.

A sane person would not do that, this guy clearly has issues and just by saying “sorry” over and over doesn’t excuse or make his actions even REMOTELY okay.

This guy needs help, and banning him from League is a good way to tell him that he has issues and needs to find help.

Tell me, would you go up to someone and threaten to kill their whole family? Can you honestly tell me that’s a perfectly normal “mistake” to make??

If you’re honestly trying to defend this guy, then you really need to re-evaluate your morals because you may have something mentally wrong with you as well.

captaincomando11 votes

He needs help .I agree with that.But also more then 80 percent league players need help as well...Wishing people cancer and death is not unusual .Did this guy went one step more,yes he did.Does he deserve to get ban on LoL .yes he does.But to talk about caps and breaking some low after he give public apology is just unnecessarily and meaningless. I newer treat people with death wishes,because I newer wish in my life someone to die,regardless how angry I were.I did wish people to get beating ,but newer treat anyone ever...And I got couple of death treats ,but newer get them seriously ,because they newer were serious .Do you know why,because there is 0.0001 Percent someone is serious when he treat death after 1 internet game...Did you ever hear someone get beaten or killed by stranger after 1 internet game together? I am trying to defend logic and people can be very cruel when they judge others.But everyone would love understanding and mercy when they are on condemned chair.Do not rush to judge others with no mercy...

ShadowParker2 votes

When someone acts the way this guy did he shouldn’t be treated with kindness and respect.

He deserved to be treated harshly because what he did wasn’t okay. Even if he’s sorry, it doesn’t take back what he said. What he needs to do is move forward by growing and getting help so he doesn’t ever act this way again.

By treating him with kindness you are telling him that it’s okay to act the way he did.

If he doesn’t want to be treated harshly in the future then he needs to not act the way he did ever again. For now though, based off what he did when OP made the post, he shall not receive any remorse for an action this extreme.

captaincomando11 votes

By treating him with kindness you are telling him that it’s okay to act the way he did.

If he doesn’t want to be treated harshly in the future then he needs to not act the way he did ever again. For now though, based off what he did when OP made the post, he shall not receive any remorse for an action this extreme.

I partly agree with your opinion... It rely depends from person to person...Some people do deserve remorse if he show remorse for his actions...U must have deeper insight in peoples behavior to judge them. Sometimes they do need harsh punishement when they do not show remorse.But if they do show real remorse harsh punishment is not good...Forgiveness is sometimes good thing... unfortunatelly wee are all easy to judge others and wee always find good excuse for ourselves///

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