When You are ADC and Support Nasus is Griefing...

LeafieGreens2·Nov 5, 2019·5 votes·6,569 views

I am beyond frustrated.

I played a ranked game tonight. I was ADC Ashe and during the draft the support locked in Nasus. No biggie, Nas can be viable as a support.

When the game started we were leashing red for our jg Jax and the support Nasus uses his siphoning strike (Q) to last hit the red buff and stole it from Jax. Ooof. So now our jungler is tilted and says "no ganks bot good luck." Great...

So then we get to laning phase and we are against a Blitz / Vayne bot. Double-oof. This support Nasus spends the entire time trying to attack whatever I am trying to farm, using his Q to last hit the minions and especially every cannon -- basically whatever I am focusing he continues to actively try to deny me farm.

So soon I am 10 CS behind Vayne, then 20. Meanwhile the enemy jungler Elise is ganking us constantly and between that and the Blitz pulls I am having a really bad time.

We then lose bot turret and then this support Nasus leaves bot lane altogether and just afk-farms our jungle for the rest of the game -- further infuriating our jungler Jax. He ignores pings and ignores the other team even when they are pushing into our base.

Finally the game ends and we lose. The support Nasus never said a word the entire game except for an "lol" in the post game screen and then leaves. He purposely ruined the game and I'm sure he'll do it again.

My entire team reports him, but I don't know that the punishment system will do anything because he never spoke in chat.

So I submitted a second support ticket through the website, but I am afraid that trolls like this slip through the system and continue to ruin ranked games for people.

I guess my question is, is there any other way to deal with these types of people? I continually encounter them every few games. They are usually people who got autofilled to support and decide to just be jerks and ruin the game for everyone.

It is so frustrating! [zombie-brand-mindblown]

14 Comments

JustDonnyyNov 5, 20194 votes

If you filled in a support ticket that pretty much as far as you can take a report. It's annoying, yes, but the best thing to do is forget about it and move on to the next game.

Yin Yang TaoistNov 6, 20194 votes

I truly sympathize with you, OP. Really unfortunate to end up with a Support Nasus. And then, on top of that having one who takes your farm. I've had a few ADC's rage when I accidentally auto attacked their minions. I think that you were very patient in comparison.

He played a support Shaco the next game. His CS was higher than his ADC who was a 100 less than her rival ADC. OOF! The next one was a Support Gangplank. I really feel bad for that Ezreal there. I looked through his History and he even has a few support Corki games. Support Kha'zix, Garen, Mundo.. Kled. Tryndamere, Vi. Yikes!

LeafieGreens2Nov 6, 20192 votes

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I truly sympathize with you, OP. Really unfortunate to end up with a Support Nasus. And then, on top of that having one who takes your farm. I've had a few ADC's rage when I accidentally auto attacked their minions. I think that you were very patient in comparison.

He played a support Shaco the next game. His CS was higher than his ADC who was a 100 less than her rival ADC. OOF! The next one was a Support Gangplank. I really feel bad for that Ezreal there. I looked through his History and he even has a few support Corki games. Support Kha'zix, Garen, Mundo.. Kled. Tryndamere, Vi. Yikes!

Yeah, I saw that too. He obviously enjoys trolling around and ruining the game for others. I don't understand people who play this way - solely to ruin the experience for other players.

Sinful SuccubusNov 5, 20193 votes

My entire team reports him,

i just want to point out that 4 reports have the same value as 1 report. the extra 3 don't do anything. they don't influence the process in any way. the system sees the report, checks the game and if there is something to punish, it does. if not, nothing happens.

MeesterMoNov 5, 20194 votes

I know that everyone, including Riot, says this is the case, but the only time I am prompted with an Instant Feedback Report saying the player was punished is when everyone reports them. Not sure if this means that there actually is some benefit to multiple reports (i.e. maybe everyone checking different boxes on the report makes the bot check fof different kinds of misbehavior), or if the kind of things that get punished are the kinds of things that everyone can easily recognize, and thus, multiple reports.

Sinful SuccubusNov 5, 20193 votes

There's another variable: you don't get notified every single time a report results into a punishment. It's intentionally setup this way to make it harder to reverse engineer the system and figure out exactly what not to say but still be toxic. Riot won't reveal what percentage of reports get notifications going but I remember a post a few years back where someone said it's 15%. Good enough for me

86400Nov 5, 20192 votes

I love support, but refuse to be an adc. Sometimes people shouldn't be in a role they're going to screw up anyway.

LeafieGreens2Nov 6, 20192 votes

UPDATE

So my support ticket was responded to first by the automated Blitzcrank Bot, so I had to amend it to make sure it was reviewed by an actual Riot employee.

This afternoon I got a really nice reply from a Riot dude who was really understanding and said that "the competitive integrity of each match is exceptionally important!" He thanked me for going the extra step of submitting a ticket -- but still told me to just use the in-game reporting system. However, I still don't feel confident that these types of players are caught by the automated system.

I've been checking OP.GG on this guy today and it's now been over 24 hours since he last played so I'm hoping he was punished.

I had a really bad time in ranked games last night, trolls abounded. I quit after having to dodge a game where the jungler locked in Cait and the support locked in Ezreal. Oof.

Here's hoping I get better games in the future.

The grind continues...

KnKitsuneNov 6, 20192 votes

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UPDATE

So my support ticket was responded to first by the automated Blitzcrank Bot, so I had to amend it to make sure it was reviewed by an actual Riot employee.

This afternoon I got a really nice reply from a Riot dude who was really understanding and said that "the competitive integrity of each match is exceptionally important!" He thanked me for going the extra step of submitting a ticket -- but still told me to just use the in-game reporting system. However, I still don't feel confident that these types of players are caught by the automated system.

I've been checking OP.GG on this guy today and it's now been over 24 hours since he last played so I'm hoping he was punished.

I had a really bad time in ranked games last night, trolls abounded. I quit after having to dodge a game where the jungler locked in Cait and the support locked in Ezreal. Oof.

Here's hoping I get better games in the future.

The grind continues...

Yeah don't expect player support to really do anything confidence boosting. Blatant Trolls can go through dozens of matches before being noticed on radar.

1God Carry 4DogsNov 6, 20191 votes

I know this is frustrating, but unfortunately there is no rule that a sup cannot take minions away from a adc.

C0l0urlessNov 6, 20191 votes

Why are Bottom and Support separate roles then? There is no other difference between them.

Yin Yang TaoistNov 7, 20191 votes

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I know this is frustrating, but unfortunately there is no rule that a sup cannot take minions away from a adc.

This makes me speechless. At the same time, I'm laughing because its been 10 years. Its impossible that they have never had such incidents before. Which makes one wonder how they dealt with the previous cases. And, if those were punished then why was such a rule explaining that Supports shouldn't intentionally take away the cs from their ADC's while they are both in lane.. not stated? I am guessing, its difficult to enforce such a rule even if it is applied, perfectly. Because, ADC's could disconnect. Or they could just semi-AFK a game where a Support is forced to take cs in order to carry. In order to avoid auto-reports in such a situation and innocent Supports getting punished, it'd make sense not to state such a rule and enforce it.

Logically speaking, this should most often happen in the lower Elo's. Where Supports may be ignorant of their role, what they should or should not do. But usually, their team would likely complain or talk them through. As a result, the majority should stop taking away their ADC's cs. But what happens when you get an anomaly like the Nasus in the OP's game? Someone with a thick skin who doesn't seem to follow these unspoken rules between ADC and Support. I'm curious to see if they are punished or allowed to continue with their ways.