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Can we remove the ability to ban a champion another player on your team has already shown?

Glasletter··4 votes·2,140 views

Of course I understand not having the bans work only one way, banning your opponents but allowing you to still play it, but even still you often get players accidentally banning other player's champions or troll banning, which leads to the classic "flash+ghost+run it down mid" type of attitudes. I play a fair bit of AP Kog'Maw mid, M7 without more than a single AD game, but I still cannot show Kog'Maw pre-bans because about every other game someone will attempt to ban it out from under me.

Simply make the champion unclickable in the banning phase if someone has already locked that champion in prior.

Other thoughts on how to fix this issue? Please share, and keep it civil!

19 Comments

CharDeeMcDenniz4 votes

this issue does not need fixing

bans have always had priority over picks

if you have last pick and I have first ban, and the pick you have hovered is maybe a new hero that's still OP broken, maybe its a hero that I know just beats my ass every time I play against him. You can bet i'm banning that guy every time, no matter if he's hovered or not. And in no world should I or anyone else be punished for doing so.

Glasletter2 votes

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this issue does not need fixing

bans have always had priority over picks

if you have last pick and I have first ban, and the pick you have hovered is maybe a new hero that's still OP broken, maybe its a hero that I know just beats my ass every time I play against him. You can bet i'm banning that guy every time, no matter if he's hovered or not. And in no world should I or anyone else be punished for doing so.

I get that as part of the issue. Do you have a suggestion for a solution that resolves both issues?

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And what is to stop me from hovering a "must pick" champion to prevent it from being banned, thus ensuring the enemy team has first pick to pick an OP champion?

You can always play another champion if it is banned. If other people are banning your champions, it's likely because you're not taking the time to explain to them. Get into lobby and say "yo, I have an X winrate as this, it's really good -mid/late/whatever- game and does a lot of -cc/damage/whatever-".

Keep in mind that they have the right to say "yo, I don't want to play with this champion in my game". Their right to ban it supersedes your desire to play it. Period.

First off, why would you hover an OP champion if you weren't going to play it? Of course if my champion gets banned I have other picks that I don't mind playing and actually enjoy, but I do not believe that those bans should come from your own team. Your desire to play the game supersedes someone else's desire for you to uninstall, hence why the latter encounters disciplinary action.

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So I lock yasuo, them don't pick him and you don't get to ban him. It trades one troll for another.

This is only an issue if you know me and my preferred bans personally, as you can't know my preferred bans prior to the ban phase otherwise.

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Sorry bro, no Yasuos will exsists in my games, whether it is ally or enemy, hovered or not.

Sounds like you've never learned to play against him and never will. Sucks, doesn't it?

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Why would you? How else would I ban my inting top laners teemo.

You shouldn't know he's an inting player unless you know him personally, and in that case I recommend you stop playing with them.

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Normally people just dodge and wait out the 5 mins if teir champ they hovered get banned the other most of the time they run it down mid it's a way to spice up the game lol

I don't enjoy making dodge timers a necessary part of ones gaming experience. Inting is a bannable offence.

CharDeeMcDenniz1 votes

this is a very poor way to reply...no one else besides me that you quoted will get a notification that you replied to what they said

but for my part,

I get that as part of the issue. Do you have a suggestion for a solution that resolves both issues?

i dont see it as an issue that needs to be solved, what you're complaining about is working as intented to me

Glasletter2 votes

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this is a very poor way to reply...no one else besides me that you quoted will get a notification that you replied to what they said

but for my part,

i dont see it as an issue that needs to be solved, what you're complaining about is working as intented to me

Apologies, I wasn't sure how best to format it so I just copy+pasted the quotations.

Riot did not intend players to troll their teammates. This is one aspect of the game in which trolling capability is abused, therefore it is an issue regardless of how important you might deem it.

Seriphym1 votes

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I get that as part of the issue. Do you have a suggestion for a solution that resolves both issues?

Bring back Teambuilder! [slayer-jinx-wink]

2Charmnot2Charm4 votes

There are 146 champions in this game. Pick another one.

Unker1393 votes

So I lock yasuo, them don't pick him and you don't get to ban him. It trades one troll for another.

MarijaCarry1 votes

The player who wanted to play Yasuo and you banned it is lose lose situation, he trolls in both cases.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

Other thoughts on how to fix this issue?

Not everything is an issue that needs to be fixed. Draft pick is set up this way by design because bans come before picks.

xHeimtechZX3 votes

Teemo is annoying but it just seems like a ban waste... I don't ban my teammate's picks out of courtesy but now that I think about it, if I hover above Darius, would my teammates be less likely ban him? Just let me lane against him, you're not even top. I don't hover above champions I'm going to use so my teammates don't ban them, especially if they're less popular picks like Yuumi. Honestly, you should probably do the same. Kog'Maw is such a random ban, highly doubt you'll see people banning him unless someone is spying on your profile.

Glasletter2 votes

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Teemo is annoying but it just seems like a ban waste... I don't ban my teammate's picks out of courtesy but now that I think about it, if I hover above Darius, would my teammates be less likely ban him? Just let me lane against him, you're not even top. I don't hover above champions I'm going to use so my teammates don't ban them, especially if they're less popular picks like Yuumi. Honestly, you should probably do the same. Kog'Maw is such a random ban, highly doubt you'll see people banning him unless someone is spying on your profile.

Hence why I don't even hover him anymore. It is a real problem though, even if there are workarounds, particularly if you main a champion that is frequently played or banned.

rujitra2 votes

And what is to stop me from hovering a "must pick" champion to prevent it from being banned, thus ensuring the enemy team has first pick to pick an OP champion?

You can always play another champion if it is banned. If other people are banning your champions, it's likely because you're not taking the time to explain to them. Get into lobby and say "yo, I have an X winrate as this, it's really good -mid/late/whatever- game and does a lot of -cc/damage/whatever-".

Keep in mind that they have the right to say "yo, I don't want to play with this champion in my game". Their right to ban it supersedes your desire to play it. Period.

Metal Janna3 votes

{quoted} You can always play another champion if it is banned. If other people are banning your champions, it's likely because you're not taking the time to explain to them. Get into lobby and say "yo, I have an X winrate as this, it's really good -mid/late/whatever- game and does a lot of -cc/damage/whatever-".

You shouldn't have to justify your pick or persuade your team to allow you it. It isn't their choice to make.

Keep in mind that they have the right to say "yo, I don't want to play with this champion in my game".

This "right" you speak of- where is it enumerated?

rujitra4 votes

Because bans take priority and have since the beginning of League.

Kei1432 votes

Sorry bro, no Yasuos will exsists in my games, whether it is ally or enemy, hovered or not.

LightswornLance1 votes

Why would you? How else would I ban my inting top laners teemo.

Zyniya1 votes

Normally people just dodge and wait out the 5 mins if teir champ they hovered get banned the other most of the time they run it down mid it's a way to spice up the game lol

NF Remilia1 votes

If the champion is way too OP in current meta and thr person who wants to play it is last pick and the person who is first pick wont trade with him , i will ban this champion because i dont want to play agains him.

Tele II1 votes

Nope. Players should always be allowed to ban whoever they want, as long as bans are a thing.

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