Remove /all chat from ranked solo-duo/flex games + replace with auto generated responses

Evil Shawn·1/2/2019, 1:46:43 PM·1 votes·1,962 views

The first thing someone might say to the title is 'just turn off /all chat in settings if you don't want to participate in it'; So let me rebut this argument first and then explain further why it doesn't belong in ranked play. Yes you can turn it off for YOURSELF, but not anyone else in the game. There are many problems that come from /all and really no redeeming qualities that I think justify it's existence. I'll simply list the pros and cons.

Pros: Allows for compliments and friendly banter.

Cons: -Allows your teammates to assist your enemy by accident or even on purpose. Examples of accidental detrimental use of /all: (a). Divulging information such as 'we have an afk' is a seemingly harmless statement, but arms the enemy team with very useful knowledge. (b). Accidentally typing important information in /all such as you're planning a gank, splitting, going for an objective ect. You can also use /all with malicious intent, by informing the enemy about many things to purposely assist them. Warning them of a gank your jungler is about to make for example.

-Allows for players to put each other down and be toxic, such as name calling, bragging, ect. Even for the player who isn't misusing /all, reading comments like 'you're garbage' after they die or lose an objective can be very demoralizing and tilting. This negative environment can cause players to just want to give up and forfeit, both literally or in spirit.

-Can be extremely distracting. An example would be if a heated or toxic discussion forms in /all and you or your teammates are stopping to type long paragraphs to each other causing you to get ganked or lose in combat.

-Players who choose to turn /all chat off are immediately at a disadvantage, only given the fact that most likely everyone else in the game is using it. As Unfortunate and unnecessary as /all is, it becomes necessary to participate in it to preform your best. Someone who wants to win needs to know everything that's going on in the game. Being aware of an argument happening between a teammate and an enemy for example is information that is useful to them. If /all wasn't available, such problems wouldn't be possible.

-Allows malicious manipulation of newer players through simple tricks like saying 'press d to dance' and getting them to waste summoner spells. I know this is a weak example, but its a problem nonetheless.

I'm sure there are more reasons honestly, I personally have never liked or found use in /all. I've lost more games due to all the reasons I posted here than I can count anymore. I think if we had some simple quotes such as 'good luck have fun' or 'better luck next time' or even some flavorful quotes like the bots have in bots games, that would be fine.

7 Comments

LatetotheRace1/2/2019, 10:19:10 PM2 votes

I mean you can turn it off...

Aladoron1/2/2019, 2:10:43 PM1 votes

Well, it's true that the all chat is not important for the game at all, and in a lot of games you have no way to communicate with the enemy: HoTS, HS, MTGA...

But to be honest i like to tilt cocky opponents in all chat after baiting them or something like this. It's also an useful tool to bait trolls to say a ZT word, since i can bait enemy trolls too, or the enemy can flame the troll too, so he will snap faster. So all in all, i prefer having all chat than not.

Evil Shawn1/2/2019, 2:11:08 PM1 votes

I'm curious to hear some opinions, I'm surprised nobody has any

DrCyanide1/2/2019, 2:31:44 PM1 votes

'press d to dance'

I thought you said Ranked, not pre-30.

Personally, I hated how HotS didn't have all chat, and it was part of the reason I wasn't willing to keep playing that game. Ranked without chat would just feel like Ranked vs AI - regardless of how skilled that "ai" was.

friendly heavy1/2/2019, 5:55:53 PM1 votes

All chat is EXTREMELY useful and removing it or even replacing it with auto responses is a TERRIBLE idea. Throughout this whole thread, you keep that 'my team is gonna misuse this and cost us a win' point of view. However, just because your team is using it the wrong way (by telling the enemy of your team's position or a jungler coming to gank, which by the way, is griefing) does not mean that we should remove the tool. The game isn't supposed to protect you from errors your team could make so that you have a clean win every single match. Also, just because the enemy is saying 'haha you're dead' after every time they kill you doesn't you should give up, their objective is to try and tilt you and you're always free to do the same, or just mute the enemy team (yes you can do that).

There's many things your team can do right or wrong and that's up to them. Instead of blocking their freedom of using All chat, you should just simply inform them what they're doing is wrong. Besides, all chat can be used as a weapon, sure none will fall for the old 'press d/f for inf hp' or anything like that (especially in ranked), but you can still mislead the enemy or even tilt them (tilting vs being toxic, don't confuse the two) and throw them off their game. Players who DO turn off all chat are not at a disadvantage as its not a necessity to win and its mostly just the 2 teams chatting or trying to annoy/trick each other.