Is it right to get reported by the enemy team for opening mid, after your team suggested to surr?

Ithil Snek·Jul 26, 2017·3 votes·544 views

So I just played a game that was already lost at 5 minutes in. I fed, my jungler, support, adc fed, everyone in my team fed, it happens sometimes.

At about 10 minutes my team agreed to surrender, thus I wrote in /all "Open Mid". Few minutes later, seeing the enemy team not pushing mid, I remembered them in all chat that the mid was opened, following by an answer of their ADC "You're reported", explaining later that it was because I was giving up. Did I deserved this report to you?

19 Comments

Leaf on BushJul 26, 20172 votes

It really looks like you were too eager to surrender, instead of thinking of ways to come back a.k.a. actually playing the game.

When your enemies are not actually playing the game, that's really disappointing and a waste of time. It even looks like you NEVER even tried which resulted in you losing so fast and then you use that as excuse for giving up. You can't expect the enemy team to read your mind and know your intentions, they report based on what they witnessed and that's always the right thing.

GeauxxJul 26, 20171 votes

I think that's one of those a rioter would have to manually edit had you actually gotten in trouble for it, cause although you did give up, it was a full team decision so i'm pretty sure you wouldn't get punish

LostFr0stJul 26, 20171 votes

Riot will look at the situation. Just because you got reported it doesn't mean you'll get a punishment. I only have one side of the story, but they will be able to see the full logs.

zacktootallJul 26, 20171 votes

yes and no. yes on all the morals that people for some reason bring to the game. no cuz the logic is there

KokuaJul 26, 20171 votes

Just because you start off at a disadvantage, you by no means have lost by the 5 minute mark. I played a game where my top laner was 4/10, my mid laner was 0/12, my jungle was 0/10 and my support was 2/9/4, and their jungle ganked my lane 5 times. We ended up winning. My top laner was steady. My jungle started getting kills. My support helped me get fed. We won a team fight, and that was the end of it. My team called a surrender vote 4 times that game. I pressed no every time.

Michael702Jul 26, 20171 votes

That's very very extremely rare. Like 0.001% chance.

MBausKJul 26, 20171 votes

In case that the whole team stays in base and wants the game to end, i have never heard of any player getting banned, since nobobdy gets affected negatively.

Leaf on BushJul 26, 20171 votes

... just because you win, it doesn't mean it was a good game.

ChermorgJul 26, 20171 votes

Yes, you deserved to be reported.

Just like some people don't like the result of the US election, everyone has to abide by it. If a surrender vote falls, you keep playing your best until it passes or the nexus falls. If you can't vote yet, you don't give up.

You intentionally fed by afking, wasting the time of the enemy. They had every right to report you.

Ithil SnekJul 26, 20172 votes

I never precised I went AFK and I didn't went AFK. Since it was around 10 minutes into the game, we weren't able to vote for surrender. My team agreed to open mid. I did not gave up until my team agreed to open. Don't make false accusations over nothing.

ChermorgJul 26, 20172 votes

Your team does not get to decide to waste the enemy's time by essentially afking.

Ithil SnekJul 26, 20171 votes

...you're kind of self-centered, aren't you?

ChermorgJul 26, 20171 votes

I don't care why you chose to, the enemy reported you for afk/leaving the game, because you afked/left the game.

You do not get to decide to waste 5 other peoples' time.

Ithil SnekJul 26, 20171 votes

So you're saying my whole team (me included) is reportable for being AFK/Leaving the game, while staying in the game because we made the enemy team waste their time on a 15 minute game where we already lost at 5 minutes in? ... I can't argue with this dumb logic. Just don't answer anymore, YOU are making ME wasting my time.

ChermorgJul 26, 20171 votes

When you queue up, you agree that you will play the game until either a surrender vote passes or a nexus falls.

You refused to do that. You gave up. I don't care if your entire team did, the enemy team had to sit there mindlessly clicking not getting any practice/experience to win the game.

It's reportable, and you may get punished for it.

Michael702Jul 26, 20171 votes

It's better not to use chat. That's how people get in trouble.

EndlessSorcererJul 26, 20171 votes

Generally, it helps if you've:

Already discussed the matter with your team and everyone agreed with it.
Assuming they have, outright state that everyone on your team agreed to open

Considering how often one player just states "Open Mid" and AFKs without the agreement of their team, I could see why someone would consider reporting you.

The only times I've opened were (1) when we were down a player (when remake didn't exist or didn't catch them) or (2) someone is outright trolling (i.e. intentionally feeding, constantly ping spamming, etc) and nobody wanted to deal with them.

DarnedDragoonJul 26, 20171 votes

Remember the enemy team only gets part of the conversation. They probably thought you were trolling. Just wait it out and surrender later.

TrulyBlandJul 26, 20171 votes

I can sympathize with you, but I can also sympathize with the enemy.

The bottom line is that a premature surrender takes away the feeling of having legitimately earned a victory. If you combine that with forcing the enemy to endure the timewasting and boring task of finishing off an undefended base, I'd say they have a point to be somewhat pissed.

But like most stuff that is mostly just unsportsmanlike ("gg ez" and the likes) and not truly meant to harass or attack others, I think it should at most contribute to a punishment in combination with other offenses, and never constitute one on its own.