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account permabanned, then you go to any players stream and see them flaming, with no repercussion

Chaos Anagram··3 votes·2,846 views
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its very hard to accept my permanent ban when you see players whom have been un ID banned, to continue to flame exactly how they used to and get no punishments. every ticket i send in gets ignored and requests denied. I wouldn't be against a Rioter posting exactly why i got banned for the 2 games, because its ridiculous and I've had employees tell me no matter how small of an offense it is. its warranted and they agree i've changed, and this wasn't actually a good reason for a ban, but the "thin Ice" system banned my account

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rujitra7 votes

I guarantee you you weren't banned for saying "you idiot WTF WTF". Period. So your screenshot is not indicative of any unfairness or an issue.

EvilDustMan4 votes

Streamers aren't policed by Riot, that is twitches job.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

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Streamers aren't policed by Riot, that is twitches job.

Looks like an in game chat log to me.

Chaos Anagram1 votes

exactly, its not a fair system anymore. streamers do what they want, players with no clout get banned. its how it is.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

I understand how it might seem unfair, and that they are being treated differently, but there are reasons why one player is banned and another is not and things happening behind the scenes that isn't player facing (or at least not so readily visible to you).

Punishment for chat offenses climbs up through 4 tiers, starting with a 10 game chat restriction and ending with a permanent ban. Riot does not just immediately issue a permaban when a player is being negative in a game; they work their way up the tiers through frequent and/or severe behavior. An offense like the one you show won't result in any punishment by itself, it would take that sort of behavior on a frequent basis, and even then it would be one punishment tier at a time (not straight to a perma).

This might not be relevant to you, but it's up to the players in that person's game to report them as well; if they don't care, they don't have to report it and there's no reason to punish it. You also don't know if that person might be restricted soon or have been so recently, though if this is not his normal behavior it's unlikely he'll be punished.

I just want to help you understand how the system works and why not everyone needs to be punished, so if you want to post your chat logs for your ban we can go over them with you. Judging from what you said about "thin ice" though, it sounds like you simply continued to display negative behavior shortly after a 14 day ban.

Chaos Anagram2 votes

it was about a month after my 14 day ban, and it wasnt really that negative. my honor level on my account shows that I wasnt being negative and I just had a single bad day in which i got a perma ban, that isnt fair.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

If you ask me, I think there could possibly be room for another chat restriction tier before issuing a permaban, but I don't have any say in that unfortunately.

While I think there could be some changes, as it stands players tend to get multiple chances before losing their account due to negative chat. It's not really fair to say another player should lose their chances and be escalated to a permaban; this guy being toxic on stream probably isn't in the same position you were.

xDogMeatx1 votes

That old saying killing joke joker said "one bad day is all it takes to ruin your whole life"

Chaos Anagram1 votes

I was banned for the exact same thing, flaming my team. I was actually defending myself. when a rioter posts the chat logs you'll see that.

in both games the worst i said was

"two oblivion orbs??? please dont boost your girlfriends MMR" after about an entire game of a galio and an orianna flaming me, who were duo and bf and gf.

and game 1 I flamed because my team refused to listen to a call I was making and ending up almost throwing the game and that went as follows

"if you guys come to baron it will be a loss cause they win the 5v5, do you want to lose?" after my team came i said in all chat "i gave my team the option and they chose to lose and not listen to the player carrying them" i then went on to win the game for my team. and got two honor that game too boot.

it will all be in the chat logs, but those are both the worst things I said in my games which got me perma banned. But I'm sure you Rujitra have complete access to my chat logs and know EXACTLY what happened. you clearly arent a troll waiting for someone to post in this forum so you can speak up. if you dont have anything else to say thats constructive please leave this message open for Riot employee to comment on. if you don't I will just ignore you.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I was banned for the exact same thing, flaming my team. I was actually defending myself. when a rioter posts the chat logs you'll see that.

in both games the worst i said was

"two oblivion orbs??? please dont boost your girlfriends MMR" after about an entire game of a galio and an orianna flaming me, who were duo and bf and gf.

and game 1 I flamed because my team refused to listen to a call I was making and ending up almost throwing the game and that went as follows

"if you guys come to baron it will be a loss cause they win the 5v5, do you want to lose?" after my team came i said in all chat "i gave my team the option and they chose to lose and not listen to the player carrying them" i then went on to win the game for my team. and got two honor that game too boot.

it will all be in the chat logs, but those are both the worst things I said in my games which got me perma banned. But I'm sure you Rujitra have complete access to my chat logs and know EXACTLY what happened. you clearly arent a troll waiting for someone to post in this forum so you can speak up. if you dont have anything else to say thats constructive please leave this message open for Riot employee to comment on. if you don't I will just ignore you.

Yeah thats the thing perhaps you didnt know. Riot doesnt care about who started it. They ban for any flaming, and negativity only builds up and contributes to the decision to punish or not. If youre negative a lot, and then you insult someone, youre gonna get punished, regardless how toxic anyone else is.

rujitra5 votes
  1. It doesn't matter who started it.

  2. Nobody on the boards without a red name can access your chat logs. You, however, can access them and post them. I'm unsure why you don't just post them.

  3. Your behavior will not result in a punishment if all you do is call someone an idiot once. However, if you spent 30 minutes calling someone an idiot multiple times, it may. Again, you should post your chat logs if you think they are so innocent.

Sobx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chaos Anagram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8QgEvJl1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-07T05:06:06.409+0000) "if you guys come to baron it will be a loss cause they win the 5v5, do you want to lose?" after my team came i said in all chat "i gave my team the option and they chose to lose and not listen to the player carrying them" i then went on to win the game for my team. and got two honor that game too boot.

it will all be in the chat logs, but those are both the worst things I said in my games which got me perma banned.

Seems unlikely you got banned for this. Why won't YOU post your logs that you received with the penalty instead of making stories that might not even be true? Why do you claim that "a rioter can post your logs" while you can do it by yourself?

I'm not here to judge you or solve anything, but what you're doing is at least a bit suspicious.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

I'm sorry you are being mistreated. Just wanted to let you know that not all of us ignored you.

Chaos Anagram1 votes

thank you, but unfortunately that doesnt matter because you arent a streamer or riot employee.

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

When you go fishing, do you catch all the fish?

When the police are tagging people for speeding, do they catch all of them?

Your actions and punishments are your own. Take responsibility.

Chaos Anagram1 votes

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Snowbrand2 votes

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In Game: Chaos Anagram: lol cause your a shit mf

Chaos Anagram: you toxic homie
Chaos Anagram: glad you died mf
Chaos Anagram: i hate this mf
Chaos Anagram: you mopnkeyu [Monkey]
[All]Chaos Anagram: next time ill just let them open our base you brain dead galio player
Chaos Anagram1 votes

also something to note, riot marked my ticket i sent in as Read and solved, I didnt even speak to a employee.

BradNo1 votes

NAME AND SHAME???

Respect Women XD1 votes

banning for flame possibility to mute someone we are serious company

Chaos Anagram1 votes

everyone asking for chat logs, i post them no one reads them. thats unlucky for sure.

Apriccot1 votes

Type less. The reason why streamers dont get bans is because they type very rarely. Even when the thing they type is like "wtf are you doing" or "fucking gank". Riot seems to consider a lot of typing in itself toxic, even if you're only mildly negative. Stupid, i know, but that's their dumbass system.

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