I want the tribunal back already.

Râmmus Bot··1 votes·405 views

The quality of games in terms of player behavior is garbage. Not a single game goes by where there isn't some type feeding, afk, or flaming happening. Yeah i have no problem just muting people but then they just make the game even harder if you do.

went 0/1 in lane and lost turret at 7 minute mark because the enemy jungler would not leave my lane. My mid lane instantly jumps into flaming me. Proceeds to try and 1v1 my lane opponent and dies while im trying to back with no health spam pinging her to leave. "report top laner int feeding wont even help fight" when i only have 200 health left. So i mute her. I go top lane she spam pings me, i try to push mid she spam pings me. I try to defend turret, she dies bot lane, spam pings me. So i stop defending top, spam pings me.

Shes probably out there flaming even more people because i was probably the only person to report her. Why would the enemy team report her when she effectively helped them win by tilting me? (btw the enemy team supported her flaming me). Not like riots system does anything to these type of people anyways. It is also really stupid that there is no way for us to know the flamer, feeder, afk got punished or not. If you want people to know the system works or not show them that it does. Only the last person to send the report gets to know. Everyone who reported that person should know if they were punished or not.

I would gladly sit on the tribunal and review games and chat logs because i know it would be 10 times more effective than a bot that sometimes or doesn't work at all. That's how you fix accidental bans to. Its easy for a entire premade team to mass report one person. I have read that this doesn't work but i don't believe it. Maybe even put people into games that have the ability to issue out punishments. It would be a lot more easier reporting rogue game "admins" than hoping a bot works. Just keep a log of what that admin reports people for and keep a eye on them. That might be a garbage idea but at least its something compared to the current system.

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scazzman2 votes

yup. and now that ping muting is a thing i imagine inting will skyrocket. people dont understand, if a toxic figures out you're ignoring them. they simply make themselves unignorable.

41681 votes

You can mute pings, but they still show up.

Kei1431 votes

what would pings do to prevent inting?

Ping them or not the ones that have decide to int will int anyways.

scazzman1 votes

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what would pings do to prevent inting?

Ping them or not the ones that have decide to int will int anyways.

i was saying how if you mute someone. whether you tell them or not eventually they figure it out. at this point they start ping spamming. now that you can mute pings. they will probably resort to inting to get the same reaction.

èGirl Nami2 votes

Greetings DelexPSN

The Tribunal system was removed due to the fact that a number of people turned it into auto-punish where others would press Guilty without actually reading the chat logs for the sake of the rewards (or even for self-entertainment)

I just had a look at your last match history, and it seems like you main jungle, so I didn't find this game you spoke of. which likely means its a normal game. while it might be hard to come around these people, please try to just mute them and report them after the game and move on.

reports don't weight, you're claiming that you're the only one who reported that person at the end of the game, if so then you did your job. this was explained many many many times. a 9x report doesn't have more power than a single report (and so does a 8x, 7x, 6x, etc), reports simply flag the game for review, more reports Does Not increase the chance of a game being reviewed.

you're asking why is there no personal notification on what happens to that person's account for everyone who reported him, it's because no one has the right to know the punishment of others, you simply get notified as if the system took action or not (if your report was the trigger as you said) it does not tell you the type of punishment.

how long do you plan to hold hatred in your heart against this person? if this person continues their behavior then they'll end up getting punished by the system. the IFS is a smart AI that takes people's toxicity and learns their words... false punishments rarely happens, this is probably the best system you can find in an online game.

I understand that having someone toxic in your team is frustrating, no one would enjoy a game having someone toxic in their team ever. but just continue to use the report button after the game and move on, don't keep 1 game holding you back for reasons that aren't worth mentioning. most people don't use the report button because they think it doesn't do anything, and that's why some people get away from what they do in a game or two. don't become like them.

Râmmus Bot1 votes

These people have the right to ruin every single game i play but i don't have the right to know if they are punished? I don't care to know what they were punished with i just want to know that they did get punished. And i don't hold hatred in my heart over one game with one person. I hold hatred in my heart for the continued toxicity that plagues a majority of my league matches. I use the report button nearly every game when i shouldnt have to. And as i stated muting them isn't a issue. It's when they know you muted them so they tell the enemy team to report you, spam ping you, and troll you the rest of the game. As Scazzman states. So what then? Just hit the report button that you have no clue that it works and move on to the next game to get trolled?

Here is the match that your looking for http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2501876937/210235292?tab=overview

Edit: it also doesn't matter whether its a normal or ranked game. Ruining a game is ruining a game.

èGirl Nami1 votes

sadly, yes.

you just have to click on the report button without knowing if it worked or not. but if they did actually do something wrong and you reported them without getting notified, then someone else probably reported them as well and their report was the one that triggered the review (probably...)

and i do agree with you, even if you did mute them, you do know for sure they're typing to the enemy team stuff like "report mohxbox36021 for int and troll plz ty" it's because the toxicity lingers even after you mute them, but to me, i kind of got used to it

since i know very well that I didn't do anything wrong, them reporting me doesn't even itch, not even a bit. I've been in here for long enough to not give any shit about little things.

ik you're not going to like the sound of this, but please try to get yourself together and avoid these people. don't talk back to them.

EDIT: also they don't have the right to ruin your games or any others. that's why this system exists.

Sarutobi2 votes

I mean it does suck that they dont let us all know. But to my understanding their excuse was that they didnt want to bombard people with notifications especially if you report people in all your matches i wouldnt be surprised that if someone one playing daily they would have a ton of messages to go through telling people that X-person was punished. To me though that seems like a petty excuse. They would have easily made an option to opt-out of getting notifications, or just make something where you just get one notification daily/weekly if you had reported someone and they got punished.

I too cannot wait for the New Tribunal. I feel its good that they are taking their time with it because we dont need another Tribunal to basically get put down and reworked again. I rather them take their time with this one to make sure they have something that actually works properly. As someone who had used Tribunal when it came out it was great to see it working but it was too easily abused, had a very mob-like mentality, and was just too slow. I'm sure if it was still up it would be much more worse than it was back then especially since more and more people play this game now than back then.

Im hoping with the whole thing being reworked they at least have things like gameplay videos where you can watch the whole game unfold, maybe even a comment box (cant remember if there was one in the old tribunal) just so if it is a case where multiple people are reviewing it would be nice to get to the point, or review what other people might have about the case, as well as if a RIoter looks at it they have notes from us to look over!

Kei1431 votes

What you want is just visibility on the behavioral sysytem. This is what you need., not the tribunal.

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