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The end of an era

Reyndria··4 votes·1,803 views

So it would seem that an average, everyday player takes about 7 seasons to get permabanned in LoL from their broken-ass report bots that just assume the flex queued trios of people that didn't like being muted for spamming and raging might know jack shit about what cyberbullying is.

It was fun, riot. I know I'm no perfect saint of a player, but for all the time I spent wasting my life away for all your stuff, you'd think I at least deserve a thorough review of things by an actual fucking person instead of some number crunching robot that only benefits premade trolls. You'd also think that over 7 seasons, some of those bans and penalties could drop off for all the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of games in which there was no problem. And you'd most certainly think that a permaban should be saved specifically for people who obviously and intentionally ruin everything, and be a little more lenient on the people who get a little heated from the pressure, particularly the pressure generated from their own team's relentless badgering and spam pings after you mute them, given how competitive the game and community are. Better permaban the people who try to mute the premades and end the arguments rather than the premades feeling in complete control of your solo player's fucking account status, amirite?

If you want to make your game better, remember we're not fucking robots, please. I'm no pro, and noone worthy of a spotlight, so my time with your game ends here, with my account's totally-not-bullshit permaban, but if you want to make your game better for my fellow gamers that keep your game running, take a solid look at how much your system is actually EMPOWERING premade trolls instead of DIMINISHING them. You've got a good game, but your system for dealing with toxic people is almost more toxic than the people it's actually meant for, and hits all the wrong people just to make sure the right people have to make another meme account and start over a 7th time. I'm no Tyler1, I actually tried to enjoy your GAME, not the misery of my peers. Until you fix your system, you're going to lose more and more of your veteran players to your robotic, yet barbaric report system.

That's all.

17 Comments

Voldymort8 votes

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/73373513/im-leaving-but-first-im-making-a-post-about-leaving-so-everyone-knows.jpg

You'd also think that over 7 seasons, some of those bans and penalties could drop off for all the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of games in which there was no problem.

"but officer! i've driven this car for seven years and have never had so much as a speeding ticket and now you're arresting me for running over that one guy? this is so unfair!"

ModThe Djinn6 votes

{quoted} So it would seem that an average, everyday player takes about 7 seasons to get permabanned in LoL from their broken-ass report bots that just assume the flex queued trios of people that didn't like being muted for spamming and raging might know jack shit about what cyberbullying is.

If this were true, the majority of players from Season 1 would be banned. They're not. Multiple reports also don't have any more value than 1 report -- all that matters is the content of your log.

You'd also think that over 7 seasons, some of those bans and penalties could drop off for all the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of games in which there was no problem.

Bans DO drop off if behavior shows consistent improvement.

Do you have your chat logs and the date of your last 14-day ban? That can help us identify whether this may have been a false escalation or a legitimate punishment.

Pantii Hamster3 votes

I'm one of the few people on the boards who completely agrees that riot constantly throwing out perma bans for something said in chat is absolutely ridiculous and shows how little they actually care about their loyal players.

There's this thing called a CHAT restriction that would be a much more sensible punishment for CHAAAAAATTTTTT related offenses. Sorry but all my emphasis is going on the word "chat" because it seems like other people don't realize how idiotic and insane it is to be permanently banning people simply over words, instead of just more heavily chat restricting them. Truly boggles my mind, and then the fact that so many people think it's perfectly ok makes me so sad.

I haven't received any punishments of any sort on my 2 or 3 year old account (except for some 5 minute queue times in the past from my old laptop disconnecting me from games, so, leaverbuster), but I can't really put into words how much this problem upsets me. And like I said, what makes it a thousand times worse is the countless number of people I see supporting and even defending how Riot operates its banning system. I'm sure some of them will be on this thread soon enough, but I just wanted to voice my support for you, and us as the players in general, and say I'm sorry that this happened to yet another very loyal player.

Final note, you can try to open a support ticket and appeal the ban, but don't have too much hope.

EDIT: In the time that it took me to write my comment one of Riot's white knights did in fact already appear. Comparing a video game to actual law, lmfao... Yea like I said, sorry dude.

Voldymort5 votes

because it seems like other people don't realize how idiotic and insane it is to be permanently banning people simply over words

you mean like how "it's idiotic" to react to mean words on the internet with mean words of your own?

or how "it's idiotic" to get triggered over what happens in a game and start being toxic as if that would somehow magically solve the problem?

because guess what? if you actually try to, you can control your temper tantrums and avoid getting banned over something as silly as other people not doing what you expect them to do

[slayer-jinx-catface]

EDIT: In the time that it took me to write my comment one of Riot's white knights did in fact already appear. Comparing a video game to actual law, lmfao... Yea like I said, sorry dude.

sorry to tell you but league has laws too. you break them , you get punished. that's how it works! :)

Pantii Hamster1 votes

{quoted}

you mean like how "it's idiotic" to react to mean words on the internet with mean words of your own?

or how "it's idiotic" to get triggered over what happens in a game and start being toxic as if that would somehow magically solve the problem?

because guess what? if you actually try to, you can control your temper tantrums and avoid getting banned over something as silly as other people not doing what you expect them to do

[slayer-jinx-catface]

sorry to tell you but league has laws too. you break them , you get punished. that's how it works! :)

That's the thing though, he did not say anything "mean." He stated facts (you called it "score shaming), and said a preemptive GG. And once again, while you want everything to be sunshine and rainbows, that's not how human life operates. It's actually NOT idiotic to have human emotions such as anger or frustration when presented with what you see as an injustice, and it's NOT idiotic to very, very mildly speak on it (referring to his chat logs.) He didn't afk, he didn't int, he didn't go ape shit and tell someone to drink bleach, he literally said GG and pointed out someone's score. I don't...I don't have any more words for you to try and get you to understand how ridiculous your desired safety bubble is.

Another curiosity, did you ever play anything like CoD in the past? Because boy oh boy if you think a fucking "GG" is toxic and ban-worthy you must have had a meltdown every day playing something like that. Maybe you didn't play that type of game when you were younger, and that's why you're now so sensitive to someone saying "good game."

You should be directing your energy towards getting the actual horrible people in league banned, the ones that consistently troll and enjoy ruining games for people. This guy using words needs to be the least of people's worries; there are players queue-ing up right now that are dead set, for whatever reason, on picking the worst champion in the worst role, and doing their absolute worst. THAT is what needs to be taken care of, not humans expressing MILD human sentiments of frustration through words.

Voldymort4 votes

That's the thing though, he did not say anything "mean." He stated facts (you called it "score shaming)

if i call my fat mother fat, that's mean. it doesn't matter how true it is. she's still gonna be upset about it.

and said a preemptive GG.

i don't understand why you're so hung up on that "gg". saying "gg" is not punishable

[sg-lux-2]

And once again, while you want everything to be sunshine and rainbows, that's not how human life operates.

i agree that that's how life is. but that doesn't mean that we souldn't try to change that state of affairs for the better whenever possible. Throwing an empty can of juice on top of the rest of the trash that people left haphazardly in the picnic area does not improve the view of the place.

It's actually NOT idiotic to have human emotions such as anger or frustration when presented with what you see as an injustice,

you're free to have emotions. but you should express them in ways that are not damaging to other people. various people have various levels of boiling points. just because yours happened, does not mean that it's ok to lash out on other people.

and it's NOT idiotic to very, very mildly speak on it (referring to his chat logs.)

at the point where, OP was presumable warned already that this behaviour is not ok, it actually is

He didn't afk, he didn't int, he didn't go ape shit and tell someone to drink bleach, he literally said GG and pointed out someone's score.

please tell me why anyone would point out a negative score other than as a means to make fun of that particular someone! i'll wait!

in case it didn't occur, making fun of a score, does not make that person play better. instead it makes them not like you. you know what happens when allies don't like each otjher in a team game? they lose trust in each other which leads to losing the game.

Another curiosity, did you ever play anything like CoD in the past? Because boy oh boy if you think a fucking "GG" is toxic and ban-worthy you must have had a meltdown every day playing something like that. Maybe you didn't play that type of game when you were younger, and that's why you're now so sensitive to someone saying "good game."

i did. and i didn't care. people talkiing trash is not a thing i was worried about at the time. but lol is not cod. the rules are different. if you are unable to abide by them then maybe you should go back to playing cod :)

You should be directing your energy towards getting the actual horrible people in league banned, the ones that consistently troll and enjoy ruining games for people.

beyond a report, i don't understand what you'd have me do...

This guy using words needs to be the least of people's worries;

he made a post on the forums. he wanted feedback. feedback was provided. if he didn't want negative feedback then he should have stayed in his safe space

[slayer-jinx-catface]

there are players queue-ing up right now that are dead set, for whatever reason, on picking the worst champion in the worst role, and doing their absolute worst.

this discussion is about op. what other people are doing outside of this topic is neither here nor there.

AeroWaffle6 votes

Permanent chat restrictions were tried once before. You could constantly stack games upon games of chat restrictions for poor chat behavior, to the point where there were some people running around with hundreds and even thousands of games of chat restriction.

Here's the problem, Riot found that such people didn't stop misbehaving just because they were no longer able to speak in the game. They were likely to just troll to take their anger out on teammates when they couldn't use chat to do it. So Riot scrapped the endless chat restrictions. What was the point when those people would just change to trolling, a much harder to detect and catch form of poor behavior?

The problem isn't chat, it's that some people are unwilling to behave no matter how many warnings or punishments are given. Blocking a single outlet of poor behavior doesn't change the desire to annoy others, so they'll just choose a different outlet.

Kyaza3 votes

ive been going strong for 8 seasons with only a simple popup warning about my chat getting a little toxic back in season 2.

Agent Corgi2 votes

I'm also got that very same pop-up back in Season 4. Since then, I've been incredibly respectful to those I play with & against.

AeroWaffle1 votes

A majority of players have not received a single punishment, myself included and I've been around since season 1 (started right around when Xin was released). Only an extremely small amount of players have received permanent suspensions.

Getting punished is not inevitable for the normal player, it's only inevitable if you say or perform actions with the intent of pissing off other players.

Kei1431 votes

With your continued toxicity, looks like the system has deemed you to hurt the community more and making a decision that you are no longer welcome in the game. So looks like the system is working as intended.

Btw, premade within the same game reports don't do anything more than 1 report. Its purposely programmed that way to prevent premade teams from abusing that poor solo dude.

OceanBIues1 votes

To us older players the reports were pretty much just a meme. You'd report the guy that beat you in lane and emote spammed, report your friend that took a kill you blew summs for etc. I wasn't taking their reporting system seriously and my main account from season 1 just got banned permanently as well. I said a lot of things I shouldn't have said, mostly just for lulz. Really got into the trolling in all chat with another guy who was flaming me lol :p I didn't report him because I thought we were just having a wild, vulgar conversation in all chat, as is LoL tradition. Kinda build up to see who can say the more rude thing, but when the guy gets mad for losing lane.. they report you and of course the logs look like wow this guy is Tyler1, when the reality is far from it. Then you get some guy who's like yeah lets improve the LoL community by banning this guy! He's obviously super toxic! I think most of LoL players would lose their accounts if Riot actually enforced their ToS to the T. I don't see why chat related offenses are so serious when there's a mute button, and we even have the ability to turn off language filters so we can use and read vulgarity. Honestly what's the point?

AeroWaffle6 votes

I don't see why chat related offenses are so serious when there's a mute button, and we even have the ability to turn off language filters so we can use and read vulgarity. Honestly what's the point?

The existence of the mute feature does not absolve you of your own responsibility for your behavior. Chat is there to be used responsibility, Riot doesn't want you using it to intentionally piss off other players.

The mute feature is band-aid for when a player has already shown to be foul to the point where you're willing to give up any possible advantage chat could bring for the sake of blocking all communication with them.

OceanBIues1 votes

I get that, but why have the ability to turn off language filters if you can't use foul language anyways? Feels baited into using bad language man :)

AeroWaffle5 votes

Foul language itself is not against the rules. You can swear up and down the rift with words like "shit", "jackass", and "fuck".

Using said foul language to insult or belittle others is still against the rules, as is using slurs and words that are derogatory towards groups of people.

Shandrake1 votes

Been playing since 2010, never had a single warning.

It's just you bud. Farewell to toxic people.

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