Blind Pick Issues - 'first come first serve' concept not really working

Archton·Sep 1, 2017·2 votes·668 views

This has happened to me multiple times in the past few days, and I've just about had enough. I play blind pick norms to play champs I want and just have fun without needing to wait through draft etc. Calling roles in blind pick is an issue that has been around for a long time.

This causes a whole lot of toxicity and negativity - I ended up reporting 3 people at the end of that game due to champ select as well as what followed in game - inting, constant swearing, toxicity, and negative attitudes.

How can we resolve this?? Suggestions?

15 Comments

Telephone BoothSep 1, 20172 votes

You can definitely report him for the salty language, but the calling roles concept is merely a courtesy. It's not a rule. You can pick whatever you want if you really want to. Mind you, this could result in a clusterfuck of a team, which is why most people abide by the call. But if you don't want to, you really don't have to. Just instalock and if you feel like it, tell them what role you plan on filling during the game. My friend plays river shen, wtf is that? He literally calls river, and goes Shen and roams the whole game. It's not particularly good, but he doesn't get punished for it.

Kei143Sep 1, 20172 votes

While I understand you want to report a player, these community boards is not the proper venue to do it.

It is also against the board's "naming and shaming" rule, so please remove the names from your thread.

If you wish to report someone, the best option is to use the post-game lobby and leave a note saying the toxicity happened in pre-game chat. If the game never happened, then you can take a screen shot / copy and paste the chat and send it to https://support.riotgames.com

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

Done.

FioraWillCarrySep 1, 20171 votes

Play Draft. Problem solved.

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

Draft has bans, and takes much longer than Blind to get in game. Blind also has the aspect of being able to practice playing into any team/ comp with a champ.

EvilDustManSep 1, 20171 votes

Draft. Team builder.

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

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Draft has bans, and takes much longer than Blind to get in game. Blind also has the aspect of being able to practice playing into any team/ comp with a champ.

Mizuki ZahraSep 1, 20171 votes

there was a draft pick type thing where you could pick roles without the bans for normals but we the community kinda destroyed it so ya

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

Yeah, I remember. It's long gone though.

Mizuki ZahraSep 1, 20171 votes

it was a year ago lol (been playing since beta)

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

I forgot exactly when haha... I've been playing since S2 or 3 I think. I stopped for a year or two and started playing again in S5.

EvilDustManSep 1, 20171 votes

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You can't have your case and eat it too. There are pros and cons. Deal with it.

TrulyBlandSep 1, 20171 votes

I play blind pick norms to play champs I want

And therein lies the entire problem. Most people have that idea in mind, and without a natural(!) prioritization of the players' wishes this leads to everybody having the same sense of entitlement. I don't really see a way to fix that without also removing the main incentive people have to play blind pick in the first place. In other words: the only real solution is, as others already pointed out, to play a different game mode.

Edit: To be clear, when I say "natural prioritization", I mean a prioritization that exists without arbitrarily defined rules. Pick order is a perfect example of such a natural priority. The person that gets to pick first, in the absence of other rules, will be the first to get their wish, simply because they are the first to finalize their decision. This is painfully obvious when people who pick before you refuse to take the role they were given in draft (which is ultimately an arbitrary rule).

ArchtonSep 1, 20171 votes

I mean, they could implement a system to detect who called a particular role first - yes, this might not always stop people from not caring and going to that lane anyways, but it can act as a source of evidence that both your team and the particular player can see to support your claim. If you want to play Yasuo but support is the only role left, go ahead, but you should still be expected to play the role as how is should be played to an extent - taking CS and not building any supp items whatsoever ruins the game experience of your teammates (particularly your ADCs), it is your fault that you didn't call your role fast enough, and you shouldn't be punishing your teammates for that.

DrugothSep 1, 20171 votes

In my experience, if you want to play blind pick, you should be ready to give up your favorite role if you want things to go smoothly. Yeah, it sucks, but it's the price you pay for getting into games faster.