🔒 If you get a 14 day account ban, the next punishment is PERMABAN

Deep Terror Nami··83 votes·41,177 views

...so think twice before you continue the behavior that landed you in a 14 day ban. Riot will not lift a permaban that wasn't made by mistake.

Don't wait til your account is permanently closed before you decide you're going to reform. Is telling off that troll worth your own account? If they are toxic then they are on their way to get their own punishment by Riot; verbally attacking them doesn't make that happen any faster.

Punishments are done in a 4-step escalating system; <--check this awesome link

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day account ban
  • Permanent account ban

Every 3 months without punishment your next tier will drop once. That means if you get a 14 day ban and your next is a perma, if you get by for 3 months then it will drop down one and your next punishment will be a 14 day ban instead. 3 additional months and it'll go down to 25 and next to 10.

Edit 6/29/16: You will drop tiers over time but showing reform is also a factor. This either changed or was inaccurate to begin with.

Think on it right now if you're going to regret getting a permaban. If you will, then you'd be wise to reform before that. (also keep in mind that extremely toxic behavior can get your punishment escalated multiple tiers)

#Update: The system didn't always work this way, this is new (3-4 months). Check the links provided, I included them for a reason.

181 Comments

Trash MammaI18 votes

Riven OMG GARBAGE TEAM BRONZE NOOBS STUPID BADS AUTISTIC Sona Report Riven please Riven DO IT NOOB

..Later that day

Riven Rito why you ban me wth is this sh*t system so bad ugh done with league quitting

Sythriel Draken20 votes

sona should have been banned too. telling people to report other players is against riots ELUA that you accept going into the game. hypocritical riot.

UB3R 1337 H4X7 votes

Don't understand why people are downvoting you, you're right.

IcyPepper8 votes

I wouldn't go as far to say that Sona should be banned, but likely punished.

We have the tier system for a reason.

ShaftyMegee3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Simple Tora,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=20HbuAcu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-12T16:52:57.849+0000)

Riven OMG GARBAGE TEAM BRONZE NOOBS STUPID BADS AUTISTIC Sona Report Riven please Riven DO IT NOOB

..Later that day

Riven Rito why you ban me wth is this sh*t system so bad ugh done with league quitting

Saying to report someone is reportable. Fyi

53872273_DEL4 votes

or this

Graves : WTF blitz you suck %%%%s. You piece of shit homophobic motherfucker! Blitzcrank : I'm sorry, I am just having a hard time concentrating tonight. Graves: I don't care if you are having a hard time tonight. Get over your fucking personal issues, and play the god damn game dipshit Blitzcrank: Report Graves Please

Later that night...

Nothing... no punishment....

Broken Spirit..

Auroramancer11 votes

Punishments are done in a 4-step escalating system;

-10 game chat restriction -25 game chat restriction -14 day account ban -Permanent account ban

That's not entirely accurate. 2 years ago I got handed a 14-day ban (my first ever punishment) for chat related toxicity. I wasn't exhibiting racism, homophobia, personal threats, or even personal insults ("lol noob", etc.); I just kept arguing with toxic instigators and wouldn't let them have the last word.

I'm not trying to justify my behavior that got punished, but this "escalating punishment system" is blatant bullshit.

Deep Terror Nami14 votes

This system didn't exist 2 years ago... This is 100% accurate now, and the very last sentence of my post says that extremely toxic behavior can result in skipping tiers.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Boqd81O0-upcoming-upgrades-to-chat-restrictions

Auroramancer4 votes

This system didn't exist 2 years ago

Well that clears things up.

ChewTobacco1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=20HbuAcu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-12-12T18:54:39.820+0000)

This system didn't exist 2 years ago... This is 100% accurate now, and the very last sentence of my post says that extremely toxic behavior can result in skipping tiers.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Boqd81O0-upcoming-upgrades-to-chat-restrictions

Actually this "system" is only generally what happens. I just got a perma ban without a 14- day ban. I emailed Riot and they said "Due to the severity of the offenses you were permanently banned."

Also I've gotten multiple chat restrictions in a row one after another without getting any bans.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

It's only about 3 months old, and I already noted that you can get escalated multiple tiers straight to a ban. If you had more than 2 chat restriction punishments (10 & 25 game) in a row after this system was implemented I'd like to see.

Yayowulf4 votes

I got 10 game, finished it off. 2 days later I got 25 game, week later I got 2 week ban. Funny the stuff they ban you for, One of the "evidence" pieces they showed me had nothing negative in it towards anyone or in any nature whatsoever. I'm pretty well done with league of legends now, Have played since s2 and its never been like this. There are nothing but immature children plaguing this game and I refuse to be a part of it any longer. People want to talk all this mad trash to people but then get butthurt and hate speech report someone calling them a noob.

Angry Monster7 votes

i think riot should sticky the original post about this or make a new one and sticky that.

It is really sad that a player felt the need to inform the public on this change.

ModUlanopo5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=20HbuAcu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-12-12T19:59:27.242+0000)

i think riot should sticky the original post about this or make a new one and sticky that.

It is really sad that a player felt the need to inform the public on this change.

We're working on a Riot-based wiki that will curate information like this.

Angry Monster1 votes

working on tends to mean months from now. a sticky would be a quick fix current solution.

ModUlanopo4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=20HbuAcu,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-12-13T00:28:28.799+0000)

working on tends to mean months from now. a sticky would be a quick fix current solution.

As someone who has experience with this, I can tell you that it's more effort than most people realize.

kaltenashes1 votes

There you go

Upcoming Upgrades to Chat Restrictions Riot NeuroCat (NA) submitted 3 months ago in Gameplay

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Boqd81O0-upcoming-upgrades-to-chat-restrictions

Angry Monster3 votes

that is not a sticky.

i am glad you found the link, but i am not personally in trouble(facing perma ban). The point was so it would be easy for others to see who are not aware. Like on the main page; where it would helpful?

The Ecdysiast4 votes

Downvoted because no one should be permanently banned for something that DOES NOT AFFECT GAMEPLAY AND CAN BE STOPPED WITH THE MUTE BUTTON.

There's no reason someone who paid for skins should get their account banned just for being as rude as everyone in this community is KNOWN FOR BEING.

Just because some people (You) aren't smart enough to press TAB and click the mute button, doesn't mean someone who isn't intentionally ruining the game through gameplay should be prevented from playing. (Or be wrongfully stolen from, for things that come with playing an online game)

If you want a game without this amount of toxicity, then you want to stop playing online games. There isn't one community of more than 100 players that isn't like this. Yes, some are nice people, but that ratio is the same as well.

Champion Skin1 votes

Just because some people (You) aren't smart enough to press TAB and click the mute button, doesn't mean someone who isn't intentionally ruining the game through gameplay should be prevented from playing

And why aren't some people just smart enough to not use chat? Chat doesn't have an affect on gameplay you say... so why bother using it at all?

CerebralKnight2 votes

The thing is you can mute toxic players not players who troll, honestly trolls should be perma ban toxic only chat ban since it is mutable and does not affect game play.

Harrada2 votes

After receiving a 14-day ban back in September, I can say the system works. I was never an inherently toxic person on my own, but I allowed other peoples attitudes affect my own and would often counter flame the flamer, resulting in punishment after punishment.

The 14-day ban put things in perspective for me and I started thinking about what I needed to do to change. I knew I wouldnt be able to change the fact that toxicity and trolling would make me want to lash out at the person responsible, so I started developing ways to feel like I am letting out my anger on them without actually doing it.

My tips to you guys would be this:

Discrete Passive-aggressiveness. Recently I have been disguising my retaliation to toxicity as an annoyingly positive attitude. So positive that it cant possibly be real.

Ex:

Riven : That was really stupid. Are you bronze?

Jax : Sorry friend! We will get them next time! :^)

This sends them the message that in spite of their attempts to put me down, I am having a good time, even if I am not. What this says to them is that they are the only one being impacted by their attitude which not only pisses them off, but usually results in them shutting up.

If for any reason, you feel like you can't pretend anymore, just drop a ":^)" and mute them.

Sythriel Draken3 votes

The last time I said something positive to a player in game, I got a warning for offensive language after the game... Yah saying positive things is offensive these days!

Disneylord2 votes

do they pay you to waste your time in the forums and write all these crap and answer the posts or you just dont have anything else to do

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Go troll somewhere else kid, and don't ever reply to me again if you don't have something constructive and relevant.

CerebralKnight1 votes

^ accuses people of lying, then says don't reply to me again if you don't have something constructive lol. ^ Accuses disneylord for trolling...doesn't know his intentions only disneylord can know his own intentions. ^ calls him a kid... Hasn't seen his birth certificate and has no verification of his age. You know what they say about assumption though it is the mother of all fools.

Conclusion ^ can't be taken seriously, too much flawed logic and biased fanboydom for his statements to be considered or given any validity.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Stop following me around.

CerebralKnight2 votes

Lol this guy can dish it out, but can't take it when someone uses logic to put him in his place.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

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CerebralKnight3 votes

Lol I am just responding to comments you made that is not following you, that is called expressing a diffrent point of view. I suggest if you are that sensitive to people disagreeing with you that you not post on these boards. You need to accept other people's point of view as valid too even if you have not experienced the same things they have.

10Tickler2 votes

I Honestly and Sincerely want a Setting in my Options Menu to just remove the Chat box altogether when it comes to opponents, allies messages. Leave me pings and Baron/Dragon Notifications. That's all I need to see. Anything else will just keep me Angry and ranting like a Rabid frothbeast

Lapis3 votes

What you want is /mute all. Then you can't see what anyone else is saying. Just do that at the start of the game.

AninLegions7772 votes

Lool. All those pros that got unbanned from their so called "Permabans" Are laughing at this post right now.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

No, you misunderstand what happened to those pros.

Their accounts were permabanned, and they were (in some cases) barred from professional matches.

They never got their accounts back, but were allowed back into the professional scene.

Again, their accounts were never unbanned. An account getting banned does not mean the player is. They are allowed to create new accounts. Two completely different things there.

TestSubjekt2 votes

It really is a joke. I was put into a party before with four jerks who were all in a Skype call together and decided to pick on me. I tried to just ignore them and once in awhile counter one of their hateful comments with something sarcastic. When the match was over, all four of them reported me and Riot's automated system banned me for 14 days. The report system is so easily abused.

It's like it was made by a group of middle-schoolers who went to a computer summer class once. Sigh...

But I'm sure Riot won't get off their duff and fix it because all they care about is money.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Why you still lying? You think your smurfs aren't obvious?

SUgzBdEdex2 votes

my account has premaban for flame really it was my fault but can anyone help me to get me account back if i have any chance to get it back and ty so much

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Locking this thread to prevent more necroing. Please make a thread on the Player Behavior & Moderation board if you need to go over anything related to punishments on the boards or in game, or about player behavior.

Ryvaku1 votes

That's a lie. I been banned like twice.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

This system is fairly recent. It hasn't always been like this, so you might want to update your information.

TSM Scarra1 votes

Then explain why i got a 14 day ban + 75 game chat restriction +35 game ranked game restriction(Win 35 draft games)? How does that work

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Because that's how it used to work. You can't get more than 35 total chat restrictions anymore, it moves to bans.

allenmark001 votes

Why can't they add an 30-day ban as an buffer zone?

HalloweenDeath2 votes

if you get punished 4 times in 3 months then you deserve a perma ban as long as they were all reasonable punishments. That's 3 chances up until the perma ban. That's plenty... It's not hard to not be punished. I've only had a single chat restriction in my entire life.

Jarring1 votes

not quite accurate.. i just got my very first punishment yesterday. 14 day ban. i was getting trolled by my entire team, and of course since i had to retort to all of them...I'm the one that has to say more...and I'M the one that gets banned. Well played tribunal.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Extreme toxic behavior such as hate speech (homophobic slurs etc.) and death threats (urging to suicide etc.) may result in an escalated punishment. I actually mentioned that at the end of the post. If you share your reform card I'm sure I'd find evidence of something like that.

Jarring1 votes

that would be a negative. I was being flamed by the entire team. and i responded to them as such. since i had to retort to all of them it seemed like it was more than it was.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

You didn't have to respond to anyone. Are you going to share your reform card or is this conversation over? You keep saying there is something wrong with the system but you won't show it.

Jarring1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=20HbuAcu,comment-id=0028000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-19T04:57:21.064+0000)

You didn't have to respond to anyone. Are you going to share your reform card or is this conversation over? You keep saying there is something wrong with the system but you won't show it.

fine. i really didn't want to. Game 1 Jarring: luring them all over Jarring: and no one else comes Jarring: and how im not 6 yet Jarring: wtf Jarring: god Jarring: fucking Jarring: piece of shit Jarring: that ez fucking piece of shit assassin Jarring: god Jarring: just want to end it now Jarring: no Jarring: fuck u Jarring: why dont u gank Jarring: good gank Jarring: uc ould gank when im tehre Jarring: genius Jarring: pfft Jarring: good one bro Jarring: reported too Jarring: nice team plays Jarring: repoted hope u enjoy your low priority games Jarring: ive been playing mobas for 10 years Jarring: rank good enough for you Jarring: pfft Jarring: i played dota allstars Jarring: before this game existed Jarring: HoN Jarring: dota 2 Jarring: LMAO Jarring: LOAR Jarring: LIAR Jarring: hilarious Jarring: you're in denail Jarring: cuz you're just a kid Jarring: called a typo Jarring: yes Jarring: trump lol Jarring: so Jarring: dota allstars Jarring: is a game Jarring: you idiot Jarring: it's a custom game for warcraft 3 Jarring: this game is based off of Jarring: noobs like u wouldn't know Jarring: mundo Jarring: if i got ganks like their team ganked Jarring: we'd be good Jarring: but rengar likes to stay in jg Jarring: dude Jarring: rengar still doesn't understand Jarring: dota ALLSTAR is a GAME Jarring: it's the name of the game Jarring: twat Jarring: yeah taht was all me Jarring: and u know it Jarring: can bot come mid Jarring: we dont need u at bot anymore Jarring: mundo if u keep talking i will report you too Jarring: whats the point not to Jarring: you're all reported now Jarring: unsportsmanlike conduct Jarring: bet u have a lot of those Jarring: im not toxic Jarring: all of them are Jarring: theyve been shit talking me all game Jarring:
Jarring: every Jarring: single Jarring: one of them Jarring: no Jarring: you all started talking shit and all im doing is aying im reporting you all Jarring: that's all Jarring: one comment is enough Jarring: you're in the bandwagon Jarring: not whining Jarring: just saying im reporting Jarring: these guys are whining for absolutely no reason Jarring: they just want someone to blame Jarring: been there done that Jarring: yes Jarring: i have Jarring: regardless they still all reported Jarring: quinn Jarring: quinn Jarring: its not bad actually if i actually have a team Jarring: that helps me Jarring: but it seems liek they wait for me to die before they go in Jarring: u dont ever try to save me Jarring: never Jarring: once Jarring: oh pzl Jarring: yeah Jarring: that was bad Jarring: how many times have you got reported for unsportsman like conduct? Jarring: a lot im assuming Jarring: so Jarring: enjoy low priority Jarring: whats even more ironic Jarring: is the champs talking shit Jarring: rengar is ez as fuck noob shit Jarring: lmao Jarring: you play ekko? Jarring: ekko harder than rengar Jarring: so much Jarring: no Jarring: way Jarring: katarina is simple as fuck Jarring: comparatively Jarring: you obviously haven't played him Jarring: know how to use his sutn or ult properly Jarring: mundo does nothing Jarring: but tank Jarring: chase Jarring: and slow

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

That's pretty shitty, but even so I seriously doubt you skipped past the chat restrictions over this log. There were probably more logs in your case used which were not provided. You can ask player support about that.

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