I would like to report this new type of humiliation

Never Let You Go·Jun 23, 2017·33 votes·1,786 views

Its not my first time that this has happened. Im assigned as topliner, in normal game, on draft mode. Im second pick. First pick is support. Im asking support to pick Yasuo for me, since Yasuo is frequently banned. Support says yes and he picks Yasuo. I ask what can I give in exchange? He says:,, Something ``. Im asking what exactly. He doesnt respond. Im picking Morgana. I`m asking is it alright. He says yes. When time comes for us to exchange, I see that he doesnt have Morgana and that he picked ignite and flash, which are main sums for Yasuo in most of cases, so I dodge the Champion Selection. Let me know what do you think about this, are you for or against for this behaviour to be punished.

27 Comments

This Is Your DadJun 23, 201726 votes

The only way to really stop this kind of trolling is either to not trade with anyone or to have a trade icon before champion selection occurs where you automatically trade. So he picks yasuo and since you're in a trade with him, you can only pick champions he currently owns. Then the trade automatically occurs. Still not flawless.

HalcyonDwellerJun 23, 20178 votes

A trade icon / system would be fantastic! I hope Riot develops one.

This Is Your DadJun 24, 20174 votes

I wish babyproofing the system would not be needed because it could be seen as a waste of resources but unfortunately Riot has to do this because some people just want to watch the world burn.

HalcyonDwellerJun 24, 20171 votes

An unfortunate reality indeed. You see it in engineering and product development as well.

You have to idiot proof everything, partially because people are idiots or misuse the system, and partially because people will abuse the system and then lay the blame at the developer's feet by way of lawsuits or saying "well they didn't say I couldn't do this... so I thought it was OK... ;) " when they obviously knew better. The fuckers.

This Is Your DadJun 24, 20172 votes

You see it in oligarchy chains too. The players play fair and then one guy figures out how to cheat and make more money for a while until they get caught and then everyone starts doing it and then the system collapses because they made more money than the economy allows and broke it, only to be bailed out.

Pierce The VealJun 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T01:12:39.782+0000)

You see it in oligarchy chains too. The players play fair and then one guy figures out how to cheat and make more money for a while until they get caught and then everyone starts doing it and then the system collapses because they made more money than the economy allows and broke it, only to be bailed out.

I understand you're referencing the 2008 financial crisis. The truth of what you say is mislead by your wording. There're always ways to abuse the system to make money. However, when it comes to loans, that's not making money, that's fabricating money.

The bail was ridiculous I agree, but there's an important disctinction between what they did and just making money. They essentially created money without actually creating money, creating a bubble that would pop the second it stopped expanding. All the real money was left with them. We got the "created money," which stopped being money during and after the crash.

That's the issue with the banking system. Fractional reserve banking in combination with interest is by far one of the most unethical methods I have seen. You can effectively loan out the same money 10 times, and collect interest for it 10 times, thus making 10 times more money than anyone else can off that money. Back before 2008 there wasn't a mere limit of 10 times.

MMTMJun 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-24T00:14:16.414+0000)

I wish babyproofing the system would not be needed because it could be seen as a waste of resources but unfortunately Riot has to do this because some people just want to watch the world burn.

Want to watch the world burn? By playing league of legends? You must be some kind of genius.

Telephone BoothJun 24, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-23T23:36:17.239+0000)

The only way to really stop this kind of trolling is either to not trade with anyone or to have a trade icon before champion selection occurs where you automatically trade. So he picks yasuo and since you're in a trade with him, you can only pick champions he currently owns. Then the trade automatically occurs. Still not flawless.

I like that idea

This Is Your DadJun 24, 20172 votes

The only other thing that might work without error is either altogether switching pick order with someone if they agree or having you select the champion you want when it's their turn and then they get to select the champ they want out of your selection when it's your turn.

HalcyonDwellerJun 25, 20171 votes

Maybe even a combination of this and the other ideas discussed above!

ScarrVettJun 24, 20171 votes

A trade icon would be really good for this.

PrismghostJun 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-23T23:36:17.239+0000)

The only way to really stop this kind of trolling is either to not trade with anyone or to have a trade icon before champion selection occurs where you automatically trade. So he picks yasuo and since you're in a trade with him, you can only pick champions he currently owns. Then the trade automatically occurs. Still not flawless.

Adding to this both players should have to agree on what champ is picked both times

BigBellBruteJun 24, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-23T23:36:17.239+0000)

The only way to really stop this kind of trolling is either to not trade with anyone or to have a trade icon before champion selection occurs where you automatically trade. So he picks yasuo and since you're in a trade with him, you can only pick champions he currently owns. Then the trade automatically occurs. Still not flawless.

No need for it to even be that complicated. Just trade in the picking order before picking even begins.
Say for example Joe Jungler has first, Mike Midlaner has third and wants Yas. They simply trade the picks and now Mike has first and Joe third. Each is then free to pick whoever they want.

AJStarhikerJun 24, 20175 votes

Upvoted for the trade icon idea

NinjaGuy69Jun 24, 20175 votes

Humiliation is the wrong word. The appropriate word is trolling, because that's what the guy did. My best suggestion if you really want to play Yasuo is to hover it if you're one of the earlier picks on your team. Communication in champ select can lead to trolling, especially if someone got auto-filled or just wants to troll for the sake of it. Lastly, take a screenshot of the chat and submit it in a support ticket on Riot's official Support webpage because what that guy did was definitely grieving.

Never Let You GoJun 24, 20171 votes

How can I screenshoot chat?

Cane FobicoJun 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Never Let You Go,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0jYqW47d,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-06-24T16:40:19.880+0000)

How can I screenshoot chat?

press stamp then go on paint ( the drawing program) and ctrl+v or if you are a mac user just cmd+shift+3

Never Let You GoJun 28, 20171 votes

Thank you.

ShadòwJun 23, 20172 votes

just run it down then lol

JedenVojakJun 24, 20172 votes

Don't count on other people to pick your champion for you. Problem solved.

Scary DoorJun 24, 20171 votes

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Don't count on other people to pick your champion for you. Problem solved.

Pretty much this.

I've seen this in a few lobbies now, why people try to trade with others or pick a champ for them first is beyond me. People ask me to do it and I never have and never will----unless I actually know them. A policy I would suggest you adopt.

WyrmbladeJun 24, 20172 votes

One time I got autofilled to ADC then I had a Draven main in the support role who banned the champion I had hovered and picked Draven. Dodging would be stupid so I picked Mordekaiser and carried the laning phase. Then the Dravenbab threw the game by doing shit like flashing in to 1v5 the enemy team right next to baron. Fun times.

Friendly RamJun 25, 20172 votes

ouch i can understand why you'd dodge that bullshit.

PaladinNOJun 24, 20171 votes

Only solutions: Play premade or don't suggest to trade.

This has happened to me as well.

Stars ShaperJun 24, 20171 votes

But is Yasuo players being toxic.

AvdotivaJun 24, 20171 votes

I never trade with anyone because another player ruined it for me. I was going mid and he was going top and asked if I could get Yasuo for him. I never play top, or Yasuo, but I said yes anyway because I was young and naive and stupid. The other guy takes Lux for me and then refuses to trade as I frantically spam the chat as the timer counts down. I didn't dodge (I should have), and when we get into game the guy was like oh, you'll be fine. In my last promo game that I need to win (in Bronze, but still). No remorse whatsoever. I was SO mad but tried anyway and we lost because I literally had never played Yasuo before or top in a ranked game. AND he wasn't even a good Lux. So yeah, I just never trade.

woodvsmurphJun 25, 20171 votes

This has happened for ages. It's wrong. It's hard for the system to punish. I generally just don't bother trading with people unless I'm willing to be trolled and be stuck playing whatever I have picked for them and the role they were assigned.