TO WHOEVER DESIGNED VI

AlldaySkandi··59 votes·3,566 views

I dont know where this is supposed to go but i just want to say that whoever designed vi did an extremely good job,aesthetically i think she is one of the coolest champions in league and her whole play style and appearance really solidify the character vi ,everything from the her funny qoutes ,her play style of charging through the whole team with her ult and pummeling everyone with the shockwaves of her punches.even the smallest things like the thing she does when she recalls and she lifts her fist like a boxer in victory.Out of all the champs ive played vi fits the character of what vi is supposed to be ,Everything just feels really well thought of and lost of effort ,theres no generic video game cliches or should i say that the perfect use of some video game cliches make vi feel extremely unique

Just wanted to express my appreciation for this quality of work ,we need more champs like vi !

edit: Another champion who does this really well is ekko ,and just as i go to check who designed vi i see its the same guy who designed ekko ! this guys is a great designer,well done GYPSYLORD VI <3 <3Vi Vi

69 Comments

Beoridas20 votes

and shes hot. you should try to find her original drawings.. damn girl...

IcyPepper18 votes

I'm not going to even bother commenting on her kit.

Because of her, I get to achieve my one dream:

Punching the hell out of everything.

Remlap12236 votes

Punching first and asking questions while punching.

IcyPepper7 votes

One of my favorite quotes from her <3

She's one of the few junglers I'm confident enough to pincer with, which takes balls in solo queue if you ask me O_O

Bouffon dAnglais2 votes

punching and fisting

DemaciaClown2 votes

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Snowball4u4 votes

actually it was somewhat of a failure with her design as she was supposed to be a top laner.

She is a great champ and I love to play her but the idea of what they wanted her to be was wrong.

AlldaySkandi2 votes

I mean when i read her lore and her character description it fits really well with her image,sayings and playstyle

disregardable3 votes

Thresh was supposed to be a jungler. Didn't stop him from being the best support in the game.

@OP: You should check out Ekko and Jinx! Gypsylord's champs are all really good.

GreenLore1 votes

I never heard about thresh being supposed to be a jungler. Maybe as an early sketch,but the final design was always supposed to go botlane. I mean his champion spotlight outright calls him a support champion(and I also remember that they had mentioned the concept of a scythe wielding tank support called kamatachi or something like that,who was most likely an early sketch for thresh)

Tails Doll4 votes

Thresh was supposed to work at every single role.

Sinlaire2 votes

well that sounds like shitty design if i ever saw it. Lets just make a blaket champion that can go anywhere and be good at it.

hmm. wonder why he has a 30% pick rate and everyone complains about there always being a thresh somewhere in game.

meanwhile Mordekaiser lets shoe-horn in an adc because i dunno how to break fix him otherwise.

GreenLore1 votes

Then please tell me where they said that? Both his champion spotlight and champion insight call him a support champion and talk about how he synergizes with his lane partner...

Tails Doll1 votes

I'm really not sure, and I'm too lazy to find it, maybe the QA from thresh. I do remember that it was CertanlityT who said this, and was something along the lines of "when we started developing thresh, we did so with the intention of creating a champion that worked in every role".

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah,but things change throughout the development,thats a pretty normal thing. I wouldn't really see that as a failure in design,they merely noticed how thresh had more potential as a support and embraced that.

Vi on the other hand was upon release presented as a toplaner who also had the potential to jungle,but ended up being played mainly in the jungle.

Tails Doll1 votes

you can still see how much of that slip to live. He can play every role in the game, jungle being the one where he will have the hardest time.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

And he's actually able to do every role pretty well since he has a lot of engaging/disengaging powers and he himself works with AP or AD. He just does Support the best. AD Thresh Top is stupid though I hope no one ever has to go against it.

Avarice Aeon1 votes

When Yasuo was released, he was intended to be a top laner. Of course, since he's an assassin with a projectile blocking wall, the meta saw him more fit to be a mid laner.

iamthegoatofwar3 votes

no...when yasuo was released they meant for him to be a mid laner...i remember cause i got yasuo the moment he came out.

Blue Socialist1 votes

It's not necessarily a failure for others to notice other areas the champion's really good at. Take a look at Ekko: he was intended as a midlaner but we see him a lot in top and jungle (especially jungle) now

EvilMerodach1 votes

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actually it was somewhat of a failure with her design as she was supposed to be a top laner.

She is a great champ and I love to play her but the idea of what they wanted her to be was wrong.

And Jayce was supposed to be a jungler according to his spotlight.

Tails Doll3 votes

Gypsylord is a God. All 3 Zaun champions he designed are awesome and fulfill their fantasy extreamly well, and only Ekko came out a little bit overloaded with his W.

Raiku Kawisa3 votes

I agree, she lines up on all fronts as Vi. The hextech-fist badass that is about to knock you into next week if you don't get out of her way. I haven't played Ekko, but I can say I haven't play another champ that lines up anywhere close as well as Vi.

I main Shyvana, but her lore is a half-dragon trying to find acceptance/home, her design is a half-armored woman who until she ults doesn't really look that much like a dragon, more like she has dragon-based armor, and her kit is attack something relentlessly until dead. Don't get me wrong I love my dragon-lady dearly, but there is a disconnect.

Vi? Her lore paints her has a rough and tumble scrapper whose first second and third options in ANY situation is to punch it. Her design are this two massive fists that if they connect with your face you KNOW that is going to hurt in the morning, and her kit is punch this thing into submission and then punch it some more. It all lines up to make a really nice champ.

ninjaIRL 3 votes

Whoever designed Braum. Gameplay will always be amazing.

His character is just so much fun to play with.

Pale Pirate3 votes

Not to mention her login screen? Have you checked her login screen? No? Really? Ok here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18yK0G9hHts

Kieferr2 votes

Most satisfying kit in the entire game hands down. Nothing feels better than crunching your teeth while you spam your ring finger on the W button on the poor bastard playing adc on the enemy team. Even better is ulting a stupid Vayne while she helplessly tumbles and tries to condemn you away only to die a painful death and type "durrrrr wow so much skill l2p phaggit". Perfect counter to the most annoying bitch on the game.

Lintu Puck2 votes

only thing I dislike about her....is that dumb dance.... -.-

Laustin Space2 votes

Funny I feel the exact same way for Gnar and I think I remember reading he was designed by the same dude as well! :o

Citavista2 votes

Lol she was basically a juggernaut before juggernauts were a thing. Build 1 damage item and instantly melt the carry and tank damage since you only needed one damage item to do so. Pure cancer.

GastonBarnacles1 votes

Thank you. Someone else sees the truth. She's ok now I think.. might be because I haven't seen her much. Also I heard she can be op with sated due to her vayne like W.

ninjaIRL 1 votes

Riot's 'juggernaut' definition doesn't fit Vi. She has two almost instant gap closers, one which has moderate range with the other a skillshot. That's not Garen, or Darius, or Mordekaiser. They don't have dashes, their movement speed buffs aren't exactly almost-instant/instant gapclosers.

I'd say she's akin to Irelia. Irelia just needs Triforce and the rest, tank items and she's completely competent at dealing scary amounts of damage.

JedenVojak1 votes

Huh, you praised the design of Vi and then Ekko, and I think both of their designs are some of the most shallow and uninteresting in the game.

Vi's design is a chaotic mess, with pink side shaved hair, giant metal gloves, a half of a skirt thing, a kind of boobplate breastplate, metal plates strapped to her thighs, and gear goggles on her head, with VI tattooed on her face. If I were to see someone walking down the street like that, I would say they were trying too hard to stand out. She reeks of "corporate cool."

Her kit is fun though.

ninjaIRL 4 votes

So you didn't find anything interesting about Vi or Ekko? If she's boring then why did you point out essentially every aesthetic thing about her?

with pink side shaved hair, giant metal gloves, a half of a skirt thing, a kind of boobplate breastplate, metal plates strapped to her thighs, and gear goggles on her head, with VI tattooed on her face

Her design is meant to be like that to express her "rebellious" attitude, toughness and love for violence. She technically has the same job as Caitlyn, in the same city, in fact they work together, but they have two completely different ways of doing the job. Vi likes to punch things because she doesn't really give a fuck while Caitlyn is the calculating one.

You know what are really shallow characters? MonkeyKing Rammus

Wukong makes up for it by having one of the best motivational and aspiring quotes in the game. "I will be the best." "Never settle for second."

Rammus has zero quotes I'm pretty sure. All he does is grunt, not even in anyway diverse as someone like Rek'Sai. And his mystery doesn't really fit his impact in the universe that League of Legends is in. The story of his origins is just generic boring crap. If he was made out to be some creation of something more interesting then maybe he might have some form of personality.

Bard is mysterous but it fits because he's a higher being. He's technical better than those who have ascended, Nasus, Renekton, Xerath, Syndra etc. It fits his theme because he's literally out of this world. I love his "quotes" though. That's what fleshes out his character.

JedenVojak1 votes

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So you didn't find anything interesting about Vi or Ekko? If she's boring then why did you point out essentially every aesthetic thing about her?

When you have a bunch of crazy details all trying to pop out, what you are left with is a meaningless chaotic mass.

Her design is meant to be like that to express her "rebellious" attitude, toughness and love for violence. She technically has the same job as Caitlyn, in the same city, in fact they work together, but they have two completely different ways of doing the job. Vi likes to punch things because she doesn't really give a fuck while Caitlyn is the calculating one.

That's great and all, but then her appearance should show it; I would expect some kind of jacket and jeans with boots which were kind of dirty or disheveled, sort of like Mel Gibson from Lethal weapon. Instead she's wearing... stuff...

Even her gloves are these ginormous gauntlets that are just hanging on her forearms. Why wouldn't they have some kind of back-pack shoulder attachment assembly with pistons or something - she just wears them like giant boxing gloves.

You know what are really shallow characters? MonkeyKing Rammus

Wukong makes up for it by having one of the best motivational and aspiring quotes in the game. "I will be the best." "Never settle for second."

Yeah, Wukong is basically Monkey, but there's nothing incongruous about his appearance. His clothes are fairly simple, with some fur and skirt thing, leaving much of his body exposed, to sort of show of all his monkey fur.

Rammus has zero quotes I'm pretty sure. All he does is grunt, not even in anyway diverse as someone like Rek'Sai. And his mystery doesn't really fit his impact in the universe that League of Legends is in. The story of his origins is just generic boring crap. If he was made out to be some creation of something more interesting then maybe he might have some form of personality.

And yet, Rammus' design makes much more sens than Vi's does. he's an "armordillo" which seems to be some kind of armadillo/turtle/porcupine hybrid, but his appearance perfectly jives with his character and what he does in a game.

In both cases, these champions are more "characterizations of a concept" rather than true characters in their own right. Pre-rework Gangplank (and arguably post-rework Gangplank as well) was much like this as well. In this case, their appearance fits in well with the overall theme of what it is they're supposed to represent.

Vi, however, is very thematically confused.

ninjaIRL 4 votes

Pink Side shaved hair? We can assume she's akin to a "new age millenial" rebel.

Giant metal gloves? That's how she fights. It also reflects how she likes to do things. The giant "hands" are reflective of her character. Vi doesn't draw out an intricate plan or get her lackeys to do it. She goes in there and "fixes" things herself.

Half a skirt thingy? This is probably the best thing about her visuals. It hints to the viewer that she's still a girl, under all the rough and tough armor and violence she is a woman - as in the emotionally vulnerable woman. This skirt thingy sticking out could also hint at her slight immaturity and bluntness when dealing with things or her childhood - that of having a normal happy family, living in a common home - robbed away from her. If you read her lore her childhood was rough.

Breastplates and thighplates? Well she can't be half naked if she wants to get in the fight and get dirty. She, for the sake of practicality, needs some armor because it just makes sense. She smashes right into the fight, and she has to look tough.

Gear goggles? She's apparently a master mechanic, she learnt through stealing parts and other gadgets and creating all kinds of devices making heists easier.

Tatto on her face? This simply further extends her rebellious nature. She doesn't mind pain, not even on her pretty face. Having her "name" (I'm guessing it's some kind of stage name) on her face makes her look egotistical and I guess she is. She likes to show off.

IMO she makes perfect sense. There are so many things you can interpret in her visuals and in her lore. She's a fleshed out character with an interesting background, interesting personality and interesting gameplay.

I think you simply don't like Vi because she's Vi, she's her, you don't like her personality or character, it's not because she's somehow shallow and boring.

JedenVojak1 votes

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Pink Side shaved hair? We can assume she's akin to a "new age millenial" rebel.

The hair, by itself, is not a problem. It's only combined with everything else.

Giant metal gloves? That's how she fights. It also reflects how she likes to do things. The giant "hands" are reflective of her character. Vi doesn't draw out an intricate plan or get her lackeys to do it. She goes in there and "fixes" things herself.

Ok, but the design of the gloves is just giant fat metal gauntlets just resting on her arms like giant boxing gloves. The design is completely impractical.

Half a skirt thingy? This is probably the best thing about her visuals. It hints to the viewer that she's still a girl, under all the rough and tough armor and violence she is a woman - as in the emotionally vulnerable woman. This skirt thingy sticking out could also hint at her slight immaturity and bluntness when dealing with things or her childhood - that of having a normal happy family, living in a common home - robbed away from her. If you read her lore her childhood was rough.

Now you're just projecting whatever you want to believe on the character. There's nothing in her lore that says "but deep down inside, she's an emotionally vulnerable woman, like all women."

Like, seriously what?

Breastplates and thighplates? Well she can't be half naked if she wants to get in the fight and get dirty. She, for the sake of practicality, needs some armor because it just makes sense. She smashes right into the fight, and she has to look tough.

Then she should wear actual armor, that fits the type of character she is. Jayce, for instance, being a man of science who basically iron maned himself a weapon hammer also wears a mechanized breastplate. Why doesn't Vi wear such a thing? She just has random plates scattered all over.

Gear goggles? She's apparently a master mechanic, she learnt through stealing parts and other gadgets and creating all kinds of devices making heists easier.

It would be nice if this theme carried out through her entire outfit.

Tatto on her face? This simply further extends her rebellious nature. She doesn't mind pain, not even on her pretty face. Having her "name" (I'm guessing it's some kind of stage name) on her face makes her look egotistical and I guess she is. She likes to show off.

Like her hair, this would be fine as a detail which stands out. It is instead, one of a giant mash of random details.

IMO she makes perfect sense. There are so many things you can interpret in her visuals and in her lore. She's a fleshes out character with an interesting background, interesting personality and interesting gameplay.

If I created a character named "Zombo" and had him wearing a half-cargo-pants-half-jeans bottom, with a leather jacket that bottoms out into a suede trench coat, a random number of belts and pouches on his chest, with one boxing glove, and dancers shoes, I'm sure you could project a lot of details onto the character; The number of pouches must mean that he likes to be prepared, since he has all of these pockets which must have things on them. He has a boxing glove so maybe he used to be a boxer. He wears cargo pants, so he might have been an average worker, or maybe with the dancing shoes he just likes to keep it loose so he can be agile.

If you put enough random details on a character, I'm sure you could find any number of explanations that "fit" the character; that does not make this a good design.

I think you simply don't like Vi because she's Vi, she's her, you don't like her personality or character, it's not because she's somehow shallow and boring.

Her backstory and character are just fine. Her appearance is a cobbled together mish mash of random details to try to look cool.

If there's a character I hate for being them, that would be Ekko. He's just some punk kid, I just wanna get a brush and comb his hair down.

ninjaIRL 1 votes

You like to project what you want that character to look like when they are completely fine.

She does look cool though. She looks cool to me. She looks cool to the OP.

The 'messy' look on her and Ekko are pretty cool to the steampunk. Vi and Ekko are probably the closest looking Steampunk themed champions in league. You could say Blitzcrank is as well but that is their theme. There's nothing wrong with steampunk inspired champions. Look it up.

It seems, I will assume, that you don't like her appearance because she looks like a try hard, wannabe, cool, rough chick. I personally don't believe she's anything like that at all. If you want to think that she's too tryhard looking to be interesting then have that say. There's nothing wrong with Vi. Nor is there anything wrong with Ekko, kind of, his quotes about his past is a little unorganised.

Your opinion on this matter doesn't particularly affect anyone so I can easily deal with that in my day to day life. I simply, humbly, disagree.

Vincent Lucius2 votes

If I remember her lore correctly the gauntlets are from one of the first times that she ever used her intelligence for good by saving some people with them. The explosive punches helped with extracting people from a mine. Since then she works on them regularly and built them up to what we see today.

Her tattoo is supposedly from before a point where she lost her memories and is her namesake. It's not just her name "Vi" but also the Roman numeral "VI" six, which might be why it has a capital "I" rather than a lowercase one. Jinx and Ekko both have similar numbers on their face and Ekko's taunts to Vi hint to all of them having been a part of a gang in Zaun.

Being a child from Zaun could be a reason for her hair as well, considering Ekko and jinx both have abnormally colored hair. It could be a remnant of her old self peeking through or just a part of her rebellious nature. We'll have to wait on lore progression for that.

The champions like Rammus, Wu Kong and GangPlank all represented something or were based off of some niche. GangPlank is a pirate, Wu Kong wants to be the best, Rammus is a desert wanderer and an armadillo who says okay, but Vi is representative of a punk rock style that tends be found in the youth of Zaun. She shares this with Ekko (abnormal hair color, Mohawk, face paint) and jinx (abnormal hair color, long pigtails, the short shorts and leather bra with combat boots).

JedenVojak1 votes

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If I remember her lore correctly the gauntlets are from one of the first times that she ever used her intelligence for good by saving some people with them. The explosive punches helped with extracting people from a mine. Since then she works on them regularly and built them up to what we see today.

I do not have a problem with the gauntlets in her lore, or that fact that she uses mechanized gauntlets, I just don't like their bizarre design or the fact that they're just sort of "stuck" on her. She has no sort of supporting framework to handle those giant metal boxing gloves, she just... wears them.

Her tattoo is supposedly from before a point where she lost her memories and is her namesake. It's not just her name "Vi" but also the Roman numeral "VI" six, which might be why it has a capital "I" rather than a lowercase one. Jinx and Ekko both have similar numbers on their face and Ekko's taunts to Vi hint to all of them having been a part of a gang in Zaun.

Being a child from Zaun could be a reason for her hair as well, considering Ekko and jinx both have abnormally colored hair. It could be a remnant of her old self peeking through or just a part of her rebellious nature. We'll have to wait on lore progression for that.

Her hair and tattoo are not actually a problem in themselves - it's just combined with the rest of her appearance that they get lost in the sea of details.

The champions like Rammus, Wu Kong and GangPlank all represented something or were based off of some niche. GangPlank is a pirate, Wu Kong wants to be the best, Rammus is a desert wanderer and an armadillo who says okay, but Vi is representative of a punk rock style that tends be found in the youth of Zaun. She shares this with Ekko (abnormal hair color, Mohawk, face paint) and jinx (abnormal hair color, long pigtails, the short shorts and leather bra with combat boots).

Vi is from Piltover, not Zaun.

Vincent Lucius

The start of her lore says that she grew up in the lawless outskirts of Piltover. Recent champions, such as Ekko, have made hints that she may have literally forgotten a part of her past. She might have been a part of the gang with Ekko and Jinx before she loses any memories, but we'll have to see how the lore progresses for that.

JedenVojak1 votes

Generally, any new character lore that retcons another character's lore is stupid, so I will ignore it unless there's something more substantial than a hint of a hint in some random new character bio.

For comparison: Pre-Aatrox Tryndamere lore vs Post.

Keevalroy1 votes

Gypsylord's designs are overtuned, but he's good...however, I lost a lot of respect for him after Ekko was released.

doombotMECHA1 votes

I have no idea what you're on about. i mean ok ekko is complicated, but it FITS. ekko's theme is all about being smarter, cleverer, faster than your opponent. his slow skillshots directly tie into his risk/reward playstyle, and make you feel clever for pulling them off. his ratios are justified by their difficulty, as opposed to, say, yas.

Keevalroy3 votes

At no point should that kit EVER COME TO FRUITION! He has WAY too much crap crammed into his kit to be even close to healthy. What balanced champion, not even taking into account that he's a tanky mobility lockdown assassin, has 3 slows, a speedup, an AOE stun with built in percent damage, an "oops" button that heals while giving a semi Orianna ult, and a dash that also doubles as a blink just in case the 3-hit proc combo'd with the slows weren't enough to stick to someone trying to get away from him?

His design is as toxic as Yasuo's and should have never been released as is. There's being overtuned, then there's being overload bullshit.

ninjaIRL 1 votes

Ekko would have been a really nice and well-loaded champion if they took away his hard CC and his passive slow.

Diananmen Square1 votes

Besides her no counterplay ult, I like her design a lot.

deJasper362 votes

Fizz e?

Diananmen Square1 votes

That and Morgana's black shield, nothing else. That's a problem.

ninjaIRL 1 votes

item 3157 Zed's ult. Bard Fiora Her W, but check this one. I heard she can block any ability. Elise She has untatgetability. Pantheon ult. Lissandra Olaf Sivir Vladimir

Diananmen Square1 votes

Panth's ult is very unrealistic, but I completely forgot about everything.

I'm dumb.

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