So, it's happening again.

Lyless··4 votes·573 views

Just like the last game, no adc, I can only back out of so many queues. And they "experts" players are telling to me to openly work with people who are trolling! You have no clue and you are proving my point of how clueless you all are!

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IcyPepper5 votes

You can't play without an ADC?

Granted, it's meta, but alternate strategies exist. Metagaming can be worked around and countered, you know.

You just need to know what you want, not just breaking the meta for the hell of it.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

Yasuo adc is fun and it works..

SmokedAlmonds3 votes

Even if someone is trolling it is still in your best interest to try to work with them. Not that the situation you described is trolling anyway.

Lyless1 votes

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Even if someone is trolling it is still in your best interest to try to work with them. Not that the situation you described is trolling anyway.

You can't work with anyone who said before the games starts "I am going to troll". Would like a name of the person to slap you back into reality?

SmokedAlmonds3 votes

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You can't work with anyone who said before the games starts "I am going to troll". Would like a name of the person to slap you back into reality?

Then dodge.

Lyless1 votes

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Then dodge.

how long can one dodge when he's outnumbered? Answer that question!

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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how long can one dodge when he's outnumbered? Answer that question!

I donno, but if I think someone is going to troll in champ select I am going to dodge 100% of the time.

If my experience was even a fraction as bad of as you make yours sound to be then I wouldn't be playing this game.

Lyless1 votes

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I donno, but if someone says they are going to troll in champ select im gonna dodge 100% of the time.

If my experience was even a fraction as bad of as you make yours sound to be then there's no chance I would be playing this game.

Then you should not being saying dodge! My experience in this game sucks. Nothing is right. Every game someone is doing or something or feeding it's very rare, maybe less than 15% that things go decent and 5% they go right. hence the 5 game winning streak I got. But I am stuck down here at Bronze 5 where I don't belong.

Take last game, what happened? No ADC, the mid Kayle AFK till lop got lvl 8 and the top got owned but I am told I am suppose to overcome all of this. This game is trash!

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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Then you should not being saying dodge! My experience in this game sucks. Nothing is right. Every game someone is doing or something or feeding it's very rare, maybe less than 15% that things go decent and 5% they go right. hence the 5 game winning streak I got. But I am stuck down here at Bronze 5 where I don't belong.

Take last game, what happened? No ADC, the mid Kayle AFK till lop got lvl 8 and the top got owned but I am told I am suppose to overcome all of this. This game is trash!

That doesn't change my option that you should dodge. I mean you are obviously welcome to do w/e you want, but it is ridiculous to me that anyone would continue into a game knowing there is someone that is going to ruin it.

Based on the way you post, I think you should seriously consider whether or not you actually want to play this game. If you think the game is trash, why would you continue playing?

Lyless1 votes

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That doesn't change my option that you should dodge. I mean you are obviously welcome to do w/e you want, but it is ridiculous to me that anyone would continue into a game knowing there is someone that is going to ruin it.

Based on the way you post, I think you should seriously consider whether or not you actually want to play this game. If you think the game is trash, why would you continue playing?

it doesn't work. Like most the crap most you guys say, IT DOESN'T WORK!

Because I know I am good, and I want win. But I am surrounded by losers for teammates!

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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it doesn't work. Like most the crap most you guys say, IT DOESN'T WORK!

Because I know I am good, and I want win. But I am surrounded by losers for teammates!

What doesn't work? quitting? Every word you say about this game you sound miserable and filled with hate. So why do you continue to play?

Lyless1 votes

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What doesn't work? quitting? Every word you say about this game you sound miserable and filled with hate. So why do you continue to play?

Everyone else is getting better teams, and I left which the junk and garbage of teammates. Why would I be happy when the same thing keeps happening? I play because I want to win. Not lose. A

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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Everyone else is getting better teams, and I left which the junk and garbage of teammates. Why would I be happy when the same thing keeps happening? I play because I want to win. Not lose. A

I'm not saying you should be happy. Im saying if your not happy playing this game then you shouldn't play.

Lyless1 votes

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I'm not saying you should be happy. Im saying if your not happy playing this game then you shouldn't play.

If I didn't have to play with people I blocked, that would be a very good start! But no I forced to play with these people! How is that right?

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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If I didn't have to play with people I blocked, that would be a very good start! But no I forced to play with these people! How is that right?

I do think reports and blocking people should prohibit being matched with them in the future. But that isn't going to change anything meaningful about your situation.

Lyless2 votes

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I do think reports and blocking people should prohibit being matched with them in the future. But that isn't going to change anything meaningful about your situation.

It won't if I don't get a half decent team.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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It won't if I don't get a half decent team.

If you block a couple 100 out of the 88,000 bronze 5 players its not going to change anything.

tseihei1 votes

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If you block a couple 100 out of the 88,000 bronze 5 players its not going to change anything.

On op.gg for lyless:

The Average MMR for this league is 491. 74beta MMR Welcome to ELO hell.

out of 88,000, probably only a couple hundred have as low of an elo as him haha.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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On op.gg for lyless:

The Average MMR for this league is 491. 74beta MMR Welcome to ELO hell.

out of 88,000, probably only a couple hundred have as low of an elo as him haha.

Which is really why he has such a bad experience, there aren't enough players of his skill level to match him with. Normally that isn't a big deal because there are people higher and lower than you to balance it out. But there isn't really anyone below him so when there is no one to match him with he just loses by default.

Im glad you pointed that out, I wasn't even considering that Bronze 5, 0LP isn't really the bottom. You can keep falling there are just now more visible ranks.

HexaDecimel1 votes

You do know that getting a really bad player, a troll, or an afk'er is completely random right? There is an even greater change that the enemy team will have one because you should be able to remove yourself from that possibility.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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You do know that getting a really bad player, a troll, or an afk'er is completely random right? There is an even greater change that the enemy team will have one because you should be able to remove yourself from that possibility.

Most of the people he is complaining about probably aren't even trolling. He is literally one of the lowest ranked players in the game. They most likely have no idea what they are doing.

Lyless1 votes

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That doesn't change my option that you should dodge. I mean you are obviously welcome to do w/e you want, but it is ridiculous to me that anyone would continue into a game knowing there is someone that is going to ruin it.

Based on the way you post, I think you should seriously consider whether or not you actually want to play this game. If you think the game is trash, why would you continue playing?

dodging doesn't work!

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

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dodging doesn't work!

Dodging is 100% effective at avoiding games you know are going to be miserable in champion select.

Teslyn2 votes

my friend tells me stories of Bronze 5 matches... i just sit there and listen. Its as if he is describing a unique murder... i just cant stop listening, but i am still confused how it all started.. i love watching Bronze 5 matches.. i am going to invite you and put you in my spectate recommended tab on my friends list..

dont get weirded out by this.. its just so .. so .. i just cant explain it.. i just love watching these matches and you sound like you are at the elo that the best games for this happens..

can we be friends.. please.

tseihei1 votes

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my friend tells me stories of Bronze 5 matches... i just sit there and listen. Its as if he is describing a unique murder... i just cant stop listening, but i am still confused how it all started.. i love watching Bronze 5 matches.. i am going to invite you and put you in my spectate recommended tab on my friends list..

dont get weirded out by this.. its just so .. so .. i just cant explain it.. i just love watching these matches and you sound like you are at the elo that the best games for this happens..

can we be friends.. please.

I do enjoy watching furor boots raka every once in a while :3

Lyless1 votes

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my friend tells me stories of Bronze 5 matches... i just sit there and listen. Its as if he is describing a unique murder... i just cant stop listening, but i am still confused how it all started.. i love watching Bronze 5 matches.. i am going to invite you and put you in my spectate recommended tab on my friends list..

dont get weirded out by this.. its just so .. so .. i just cant explain it.. i just love watching these matches and you sound like you are at the elo that the best games for this happens..

can we be friends.. please.

I watched better and played better. The answer is no!

Baseball3b2 votes

This thread is become bait, destroyer of boards.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

Sounds about right <. <

HexaDecimel1 votes

lol, just sit down and grab some popcorn...

tseihei2 votes

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AlienPrimate2 votes

I just looked at your match history and you are the one who is clueless. Morde isn't an adc but bottom lane with a support is where he belongs. His passive allows him to get full experience for all his kills while the support still gets normal exp and his w only works if he has an ally next to him. His ult is also far more effective in bottom lane for 2 reasons. If he can get 1 kill he is pretty much guaranteed to get the second one with the fight becoming 3v1 and being in bottom lane makes it easier to get ghosts of the dragon.

I also looked at his match history and I can see why you are frustrated and find it to be trolling. He is just really bad with Morde and doesn't know how to build him.

Here are some things I think I should let you know as someone who frequently "trolls" with morde adc. His w (circle around himself and the nearest ally) provides a speed boost moving towards each other, only does damage when the circles overlap, and heals both players for a portion of the damage dealt. For this reason, Morde typically does better with a tanky melee support who can stand in the minions with him without fear of being attacked a few times.

If the Morde is any good, he will be very aggressive after getting a few items. If he has low hp and is still fighting don't just abandon him. Continue fighting and enjoy getting him a double kill with almost no hp left. Morde can survive at low health using his passive and still burst people down easily as long as he doesn't get stunned. I have gotten a 1v3 triple kill starting the fight with less then 300 hp against 3 enemies who were all full health before the fight. For the majority of that fight I had 1 hp and was being kept alive by only the passive shield.

His Q can 1 shot squishies pretty early in the game if he can hit them on the 3rd hit of it. Try to cc the enemy as soon as morde gets the second hit with his Q. It shows a little number signifying which stack of his Q is active at the time if you didn't know.

Lyless1 votes

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I just looked at your match history and you are the one who is clueless. Morde isn't an adc but bottom lane with a support is where he belongs. His passive allows him to get full experience for all his kills while the support still gets normal exp and his w only works if he has an ally next to him. His ult is also far more effective in bottom lane for 2 reasons. If he can get 1 kill he is pretty much guaranteed to get the second one with the fight becoming 3v1 and being in bottom lane makes it easier to get ghosts of the dragon.

I also looked at his match history and I can see why you are frustrated and find it to be trolling. He is just really bad with Morde and doesn't know how to build him.

Here are some things I think I should let you know as someone who frequently "trolls" with morde adc. His w (circle around himself and the nearest ally) provides a speed boost moving towards each other, only does damage when the circles overlap, and heals both players for a portion of the damage dealt. For this reason, Morde typically does better with a tanky melee support who can stand in the minions with him without fear of being attacked a few times.

If the Morde is any good, he will be very aggressive after getting a few items. If he has low hp and is still fighting don't just abandon him. Continue fighting and enjoy getting him a double kill with almost no hp left. Morde can survive at low health using his passive and still burst people down easily as long as he doesn't get stunned. I have gotten a 1v3 triple kill starting the fight with less then 300 hp against 3 enemies who were all full health before the fight. For the majority of that fight I had 1 hp and was being kept alive by only the passive shield.

His Q can 1 shot squishies pretty early in the game if he can hit them on the 3rd hit of it. Try to cc the enemy as soon as morde gets the second hit with his Q. It shows a little number signifying which stack of his Q is active at the time if you didn't know.

Morde wasn't meant to be the adc, Try was. But we had afk in that game, so that destroys your theory. Now go away with your silly theory! Also I picked before him. So you really need ask questions before you make any comments as well.

frigginmurlocs1 votes

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Morde wasn't meant to be the adc, Try was. But we had afk in that game, so that destroys your theory. Now go away with your silly theory! Also I picked before him. So you really need ask questions before you make any comments as well.

As the OP, it is your responsibility to provide us with nessesary information if you seek advice. If you don't seek advice, stay off the boards.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

How many of these posts have I seen from you? A dozen? Why do you put yourself through this anger? To prove a point to people you don't know?

Why not play unranked games and have some decent fun with this game.

Lyless1 votes

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How many of these posts have I seen from you? A dozen? Why do you put yourself through this anger? To prove a point to people you don't know?

Why not play unranked games and have some decent fun with this game.

no, playing unranked games is a waste of time.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

Enlighten me because I don't understand how you can say that.

You can literally kick back and just play the game you love... without having to worry about promos, without having to worry about massive amounts of trolls...

IMO ranked is nothing but stress.

Lyless1 votes

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Enlighten me because I don't understand how you can say that.

You can literally kick back and just play the game you love... without having to worry about promos, without having to worry about massive amounts of trolls...

IMO ranked is nothing but stress.

Trolls exist on Normals too. I don't want to play and waste my time because that's what normal are. Nothing is gained at all. So, if you want to waste your time playing this game, then fine you do that. Do yourself a favor and stay off my post.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

Wow man, take a chill pill.

Nowhere in my posts have I belittled, or berated you... I'm simply stating points. Take a step back and rethink this game...

Though I won't post on your zillion threads anymore, apperantly you are always right, my bad.

AlienPrimate1 votes

It's a game. The point is to waste time and have fun wasting said time. If you aren't having fun doing it and it is just a chore then you need to find something else to do you actually enjoy.

Lyless1 votes

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It's a game. The point is to waste time and have fun wasting said time. If you aren't having fun doing it and it is just a chore then you need to find something else to do you actually enjoy.

The last game was a perfect example. I am stuck with a top that feeds. And then he just leaves Nasus to feed. And you guys want me not to complain. I am stuck with people way below my skill level!

HexaDecimel2 votes

Lets be honest here, he isn't going to have to worry about promos.....

warpenguin5551 votes

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no, playing unranked games is a waste of time.

says the b5 guy. you dont understand this game at all

Lyless1 votes

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says the b5 guy. you dont understand this game at all

I will not waste my time playing with nothing on the line. I have played enough normal to last forever. That's enough of that crap and nothing is on the last. I am not a B5 guy. I am dealing with people who are saying before the game they are going to lose the game on purpose and somehow you guys are blaming this on me. Have you lost your minds?

HexaDecimel1 votes

You keep saying that Normals are a waste of time, and that Ranked matches mean something but I seriously question that logic. If all you ever do is lose and stay in B5 that what is the point of ranked. You keep saying that it is impossible to climb so why do you keep trying something that you yourself don't believe you can achieve. That could qualify as the very definition of a waste of time.

Now on the other hand if you played some normals in a low stress environment and learned to treat your teammates with some respect you may fine a group of people that you like and can work with. This would allow you to practice strategies and perfect your play style which could then translate into more potential success in ranked. It would also greatly reduce the chance of running into trolls, afk'ers, and all the other people that are keeping you from achieving Challenger.

Dediguise1 votes

Mordekaiser You called

Betoldia Prime1 votes

I have played a lot of games with no adc. and adc is just a champion in your team, not a necesity. People usually do tha same thing cause its whats always been done, but you can take any champ anywhere if youre smart and have enough knowledge of it.

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