You don't need a leash from 2 people when starting from a small camp.
Tell me what you think. Last game I was heimer supp, so I went in lane right away to set up my turrets in the bush. Udyr was at Gromp with the adc. Udyr and the mid laner started bashing me for not giving a leash. I explained that my leash wasn't necessary . When I jungle, one skill and one auto attack from one champ is enough for me to kill a small camp and then continue jungling. Udyr said that he wouldn't gank bot, and he didn't. We were winning the lane hard, my adc had 90 cs while theirs had 20, but their jungler kept ganking, and since it was tryndamere he had no problem going all in. Also I had a rivalry with the enemy adc. You see, before that game, I was in a champ select with the same guy, and he insulted me for picking heimer as a support, then someone left the lobby. So I wanted to crush him when I ended up being his opponent. So from time to time I would bust his balls, saying "dod you like my heimer supp now", and that he still had low cs. He was doing the same, and it was ok, it was fun. It stopped being fun when our mid laner and udyr ganged up against me and started insulting me, they were even insulting me in all chat, saying I was the reason they were losing (while we won that game because of my baits and dragon/baron control). What makes me angry is that they reported me after the game, and I got the pop up telling me to stop being toxic. All this happened because udyr and the mid laner weren't familiar with the new jungle, hating me from the beginning because I didn't give a leash. I fear when the next season starts, and clueless junglers like udyr start popping up. I'm thinking I might just start maining jungle to avoid that.