@Morello @Xypherous About utility scaling.

Voliboar·Nov 1, 2013·2 votes·909 views

Hello, I would like your opinions on a system where utility scaling has a totally separated stat from Ability Power (say... Utility Power?) that only empower the utility of abilities? (And perhaps the damage in some exceptions like how Ryze scales with Mana)

So with this champions with little to no utility like Katarina would have no UP scaling on their abilities, while champions like Karma would have a couple of UP scalings on their spells. With this system you have to choose to either build AP and gain damage or build UP and gain more utility.

I think that this would open up bot lane for a lot more people while still keeping the mages from pushing out the traditional supports.

I feel like utility scaling should bemore universal than just reserved for supports. Utility mages can have them too, with this system you don't have to nerf their damage though because they would HAVE to give up damage for more utility.

That said, no system is perfect, and I would like to see why you guys didn't take this direction but instead chose to take the current one on the PBE.

Thank you very much for reading :)

3 Comments

SmokingPuffinNov 1, 20132 votes

Hello, I would like your opinions on a system where utility scaling has a totally separated stat from Ability Power (say... Utility Power?) that only empower the utility of abilities?

I don't think this is as good an idea as the proposed PBE changes. Adding a "utility power" stat would require either:

rebalancing every champion with utility
or creating a bunch of items that could only be used by a small number of champions.

I think the model where Taric's abilities get stronger as Taric gets more armor is a more fun idea, too. This model sounds pretty compelling to apply to non-support champions that are particularly invested in a stat, like Galio for magic resistance or Malphite for armor.

VoliboarNov 5, 20131 votes

Oh but the thing is you don't have to drastically rebalance champions with utility, you just sort of add the utility scaling in there as it won't increase the damage, just utility, adding some versatility to their build.

The changes on the PBE on the other hand requires drastic champion balance for the champions that got touched. With this change it means mages with utility like Karma, Lux or Morgana that occasionally go bot don't get their utility boosted with items unless you nerf their damage, which is unfortunate.

I do understand that Riot wants to do this because they want support champions to be more viable in other lanes while still doing damage but if they use this system they just need to create a new item for it with both the utility and ability power stat, I doubt many mids would nerf their own damage doing that. And even if they do it's just adding more builds to the game.

As for the items part, Riot has been adding new items for quite a long time now, it shouldn't matter too much if they add 6 or 7 more to the game. As far as I know there's nothing wrong with more items to buy..